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I find disks far superior to Netflix, I think 15mbps is just on the cusp of usability for 4k. Disks better than Apple obviously though Apple above Netflix on streaming quality. I was pleasantry surprised how well the OLED coped with some of the dark scenes on stuff on Apple, disappointed with Netflix.

Oppo it seems were too specialised and a small offering. But if you want quality, the quality is still with disks.
 

fat jez

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With Oppo, it's a simple business scenario. AV equipment is not their core market, they want to focus on their phone business instead, where margins are better. At least in the UK, Cambridge Audio make a very similar player to the Oppo 203, it just lacks the analogue outputs.
 

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Still on an ageing Onkyo AV amp, I use my TV to feed the amp however the next amp will be interesting as I will need to suss out my options and future proof however the 4k player for me will be "does it provide a video output that is as good as the others". Which I would expect them all to be on par, I want off the disk and then to the TV and no faffing with extra processing.

I will chase the TV set quality, but if the output of a 4k Bluray is pretty standard across the board then the pricier versions are at the bottom of my list. Wonder how many more of me there are?
 

fat jez

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Your differentiator in terms of source is really down to what formats the player supports. Oppo supported pretty much everything. Most players don’t do SACD or DVD-A discs, more than a few won’t output Dolby Vision.

If you have a Sony TV, it’s even worse, as they need a special implementation of Dolby Vision on the player, as the TV lacks the required hardware to support DV properly. So far only Oppo and ATV support this.

In terms of receiver, make sure all the inputs are fully HDMI 2.0 compliant (I’ve seen a few where only 2 are) and if you can get one that offers future eARC support, even better, as the current ARC spec does not support Dolby True HD or DTS Master Audio.
 

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Early adopter for LG OLED so HDR only for me at the moment.

HDMI versions I am aware of but thanks for the mention, when I get into research for a new device I nitpick the hell out of it. That knocked a few TV types on the head including no support for UHD inputs! (streaming only and HDMI at 1.4).That was only 2 years ago.

Oppo was too expensive, the Samsung provided the same quality in the end result for me. It was that simple. My loot went on OLED which for me is the pinnacle of visual brilliance (others will no doubt disagree and that is the way of the world):)
 

fat jez

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Early adopter for LG OLED so HDR only for me at the moment.

HDMI versions I am aware of but thanks for the mention, when I get into research for a new device I nitpick the hell out of it. That knocked a few TV types on the head including no support for UHD inputs! (streaming only and HDMI at 1.4).That was only 2 years ago.

Oppo was too expensive, the Samsung provided the same quality in the end result for me. It was that simple. My loot went on OLED which for me is the pinnacle of visual brilliance (others will no doubt disagree and that is the way of the world):)

I picked up an OLED55B7V in January after our previous Samsung 48" developed really bad uniformity. Richersounds were great, gave a full refund on the Samsung and another £100 off the LG.

Ideally I want a player that will do all the disc formats and all the video formats too. If I can't get the first, I'm kind of covered because I have a Denon DBT 1713 which is a pretty versatile Bluray spinner (also does SACD and DVD-A), so the second requirement should be easier and may be met by the new Pansonic UHD players coming out soon.

My Amp is still pretty decent, but it will only pass 4k@30Hz, so no good for anything other than Full HD really, so that will be on the cards for a replacement at some point. Luckily most of the better UHD players have 2 HDMI outputs - one HDMI 1.4 for audio to the Amp and one HDMI 2.0 to the TV for video.
 

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I have a 103 and its one of my favourite tech buys of all time. Not only plays my discs well, but plays my archived blu ray level media files brilliantly from my NAS via network. As well, I have some music files that are 96/24 and they enjoy going through my Oppo as well. I was hopping end of the year to pick up the 203 and well.. if more people were about quality of playback of BD and UHD, they would be all over the Oppo. So it goes...
 

SAIRUS

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Have the 203, and it just works. Seriously one of my favorite pieces of equipment and really sad to see Oppo take the hit
 

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Most of the threads I've seen concentrate on the media players. Oppo was/is more than that. They produced the highly rated PM-1 and PM-3 headphones, the HA-1 DAC, the Sonica speaker. Given that the headphone market is exploding, and DACs are becoming much more common, all this focus on streaming killing physical media doesn't explain their closing. Something else seems to be going on. I had a meeting in the same building that houses their corporate headquarters today. Should have gone in and asked.

Well I'm a little sad. I own a pair of PM-3s and an HA-2 Amp/DAC and really enjoy listening to higher res music through them. They're very well made devices. Guess I should grab an extra headphone cable while they're still available.
 
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HDFan

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I just stopped by Oppo headquarters in Menlo Park to pick up the 203 I ordered in case they don't make another 205 run. Turns out looks as if they will, June ordering for July - August delivery.

In response to the question about why they were shutting down, it wasn't streaming but high production costs that caused the closure. UHD players are selling at about the same rate as Blu-Ray players at this time in their lifecycle, so it isn't an issue of the market going away. The problem was the cost of Oppo Asia setting up a production line for a product run. If they were selling products in high volume it wouldn't have been a problem. However there is only a limited high end market, and the small volumes that they could sell versus the price that they could charge just didn't give them enough profit.

So they decided to shutdown to preserve cash, so that they can continue to support and service existing customers for the next 2-3 years.
 
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