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Ordered LaCie Thunderbolt Little Big Disk for 2011 Mac Mini

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2TB LaCie Thunderbolt Little Big Disk shipped on Thursday. Expecting it early next week.

An Apple Store near me has two on the shelf. Only if I knew.

Once received I'll try it under Lion and Windows 7. I'll also evaluate the tear down potential. I'm curious if the 2TB drive uses 9.5mm HDs. In the future, if tear down is easy I'll upgrade to SSDs.
 
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Lokheed said:
mac jones said:
Of course. It's only the heavy users (Video, Audio mostly I imagine) that need this.

It's really scary some of the rigs i see in the pro forums that I frequent. I mean REALLY scary. Makes you nervous :D. A lot of these rigs a $10 Gs and up. I don't know. It always shocks me frankly :D
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Again, more money than brains. It's such a disproportionate slide between cost and performance. $100 to transfer 100 MBs or $1000 to transfer 120 MBs. I bet I could build a rig that's 10% slower for 1000% less.

It's just people who have no clue about how to calculate gains. I mean, if you're waiting 20 minutes every time you move in a knob in a VST-plugin, sure, but to shell out $10,000 a year (because I'm sure these guys swap system's like Hefner swaps chicks), is just asinine, I don't care how much money you have. Give it to a good cause, don't burn it like a fool for your own selfishness.

I love how people think a 2.3 GHz CPU is going to smash a 2.0 GHz CPU. Like that ~8% is going to transfer into anything more than a fraction of a second in the real world. Wow, after a year, you save 2 minutes... good job!

If these guys sat down and calculated how much more work they did and it amounted to a higher net profit than what they could have done with a slower computer, sure, I'll buy it's good for business. But I'm sure that data is about as vacant as their cortex.
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Not sure about your cortex, but mine tells me that a 2.3 GHz CPU isn't 8% faster than a 2.0 GHz CPU, it's actually 15% faster.
 
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Based on the other thread, I think the LaCie is going back. I'll see based on my needs.
 
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Based on the other thread, I think the LaCie is going back. I'll see based on my needs.
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yeah i may have problems with it. i am thinking of getting the pegasus.
 
I'm curious. If it's only for media why do you need Thunderbolt? I'm consolidating 3 external self powered 1TB/2TB USB drives down to one 3TB Time Capsule disk. Purely for music, photos and movies. I can't stand cables and am willing to pay for wireless options. Plus they don't need to be close to my workspace. The 3TB disk seems to be fairly priced. Plus I don't see any other wireless 3TB drives on the market for ￥44,400 so...

I will be considering the LaCie/Pegasus Thunderbolt options (and installing SSD) for my home recording studio though since the speeds are required.


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patent10021 said:
I'm curious. If it's only for media why do you need Thunderbolt? I'm consolidating 3 external self powered 1TB/2TB USB drives down to one 3TB Time Capsule disk. Purely for music, photos and movies. I can't stand cables and am willing to pay for wireless options. Plus they don't need to be close to my workspace. The 3TB disk seems to be fairly priced. Plus I don't see any other wireless 3TB drives on the market for ￥44,400 so...

I will be considering the LaCie/Pegasus Thunderbolt options (and installing SSD) for my home recording studio though since the speeds are required.


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It's also an option if you are using la number of machines, then you only have to beef up one drive to use on all machines. USB or firewire, are really just media drives, like you say.
 
I have a 3TB Time Capsule and its slower than most NAS drives. I've tested it with Pioneer Kuro sample 1080P sample and it's enough to play without any other activity. I'm concerned about backups causing bandwidth issues. Lastly, the Time Capsule has not played nice with Windows 7 as a network drive.
 
LaCie Performance: Some Metrics

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Based on the other thread, I think the LaCie is going back. I'll see based on my needs.
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It is expensive from a TB per $ perspective but check this out: I picked up a 1TB LaCie at the local Apple store and have put it to the test using a variety of HD test tools. My test bed is a 2011 MBP 2.2 i7 8MB 7200 500GB machine. This is what I found. The upgraded internal drive consistently averaged write speeds for an 8 GB file of 78.6 MB/s and read of 89.1 MB/s.

In the same test, the LaCie is performing at 188.6 MB/s write & 198.4 MB/s read tasks.

I'm pretty happy that storage is not a bottleneck while doing large projects especially when using programs like FCPx. I'll admit Logic did NOT need this upgrade, but FCPx is smokin' fast now.

BTW, test machine is running OS X 10.7.1 and FCPx is with the patch (10.0.1)

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I have one and it's great. Large very fast option, and small also.

People will complain about the price and the fact that it doesn't run on buss power, But it's powering a monitor also, so it's more than just an external RAID drive.

Costly no doubt though :D
 
ravenlynch said:
It is expensive from a TB per $ perspective but check this out: I picked up a 1TB LaCie at the local Apple store and have put it to the test using a variety of HD test tools. My test bed is a 2011 MBP 2.2 i7 8MB 7200 500GB machine. This is what I found. The upgraded internal drive consistently averaged write speeds for an 8 GB file of 78.6 MB/s and read of 89.1 MB/s.

In the same test, the LaCie is performing at 188.6 MB/s write & 198.4 MB/s read tasks.

I'm pretty happy that storage is not a bottleneck while doing large projects especially when using programs like FCPx. I'll admit Logic did NOT need this upgrade, but FCPx is smokin' fast now.

BTW, test machine is running OS X 10.7.1 and FCPx is with the patch (10.0.1)

Cheers
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I already have a Pegasus R4 for my other iMac but I am thinking of getting the 2TB LaCie TB drive for my FCPX files but I am also thinking of putting Lion on the LaCie drive as well...I only have an internal 1TB HD so I'm thinking Lion on Thunderbolt drive will be way faster.

As a professional I would gladly pay the extra $400 for 180mbps over the 80mbps of FireWire. lol.
 
mac jones said:
I have one and it's great. Large very fast option, and small also.

People will complain about the price and the fact that it doesn't run on buss power, But it's powering a monitor also, so it's more than just an external RAID drive.

Costly no doubt though :D
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I just placed an order for the 2TB one. They have to be pretty popular since its a 4-6 week wait. :(
 
Pegasus versus Little Big Disk; SSD vs HDD

Installing the same pair of 6Gb/s SSDs as RAID 0 in both the Promise Pegasus R4 and LaCie LBD Thunderbolt, I learned...

1. The large sustained write speed of the Pegasus is 74% faster in QuickBench's 1G Custom test and 30% faster in the AJA System Test (2048x1556 10-bit RGB, 4G test size).

2. The small random transfer speed (QuickBench 4K to 1M mix, avg 5 cycles) of the Pegasus 36% faster on READs and 25% faster on WRITES.

I'll post the raw numbers tomorrow including results for the LaCie's "factory" pair of Hitachi Travelstar HDDs and a pair of Seagate Momentus Hybrid XT HDDS.
 
I have found the pegasus r6 to be a very nice piece of gear cost a lot but nice.I got one for 1320 with 6 1tb hdds in it. I pulled the hdds and filled it with lots of test drives I can't get 3tb drives to work in it other then that all drives run very fast. it completely eliminates the need for drive change in a mini or an iMac. I have used samsung ssds three models as boot drives and intel ssd as a boot drive and kingston ssd to boot with. it works so well you could pull the hdds out of your mini and run the machine via the pegasus.

So far just tested lion on this not windows 7. I think I can not use it for windows 7 with boot camp. My first lacie came broken and I am waiting for a replacement so I never did much testing with it. My next one is due in Dec.
 
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