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Skoal

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I am on the El Capitan GM public release.
When I open the Mail app, everything slows down to a crawl. I opened Activity Monitor, and showed excessive RAM usage by the Mail app. Anyone else experience this?

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Interesting! I keep trying to have a reason to use the mail app but it's had so many issues over the past few years I've just avoided it. I'd prefer to use it so I could view all my mail in one place but oh well. Maybe someday. For now I have to deal with 3 email client apps and it's a hassle.
 

Dirtyharry50

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Interesting! I keep trying to have a reason to use the mail app but it's had so many issues over the past few years I've just avoided it. I'd prefer to use it so I could view all my mail in one place but oh well. Maybe someday. For now I have to deal with 3 email client apps and it's a hassle.

I often notice people making comments about issues with Apple Mail. I've been using it for the past three years, first with just iCloud and Gmail email accounts and I've since added two more IMAP accounts. I have not had any problems with it at all. The features to process incoming mail into boxes I setup, etc. work well to keep just the important stuff in my primary inbox. I've honestly had zero issues.

Presently I am connected to iCloud, Gmail, Yahoo Mail and Microsoft Exchange email and they all work flawlessly. I wonder why that would be in my case while it is so problematic in apparently many other cases. I am not disputing that it is problematic either. It just mystifies me how an app this simple can be this variable in how it performs.
 

wlow3

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Does anyone know the URL of the site that often had an extensive list of OS X 3rd party software compatibility? I think they use green, yellow and red "lights" next to the software titles to help denote its status.
 

talmy

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Oct 26, 2009
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Could someone confirm if Parallels 9 is working on El Cap? Really don't want to pay for another upgrade. I'm currently running Windows 8.1 via Parallels 9 on Yosemite.

Thanks in advance!

It works fine on the betas as well as the release candidate. First time in my memory that three versions of Parallels (9, 10, 11)work on one (actually two, 10.10 and 10.11) OS X versions.
 

colwildcat

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Sep 14, 2015
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On a clean install of the general release. Handbrake with libdvdcss no longer works. libdvd errors out on install, saying it is not compatible with El Capitan. So, no more backing up your DVD's. You think they will get this fixed?
 
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Skoal

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I often notice people making comments about issues with Apple Mail. I've been using it for the past three years, first with just iCloud and Gmail email accounts and I've since added two more IMAP accounts. I have not had any problems with it at all. The features to process incoming mail into boxes I setup, etc. work well to keep just the important stuff in my primary inbox. I've honestly had zero issues.

Presently I am connected to iCloud, Gmail, Yahoo Mail and Microsoft Exchange email and they all work flawlessly. I wonder why that would be in my case while it is so problematic in apparently many other cases. I am not disputing that it is problematic either. It just mystifies me how an app this simple can be this variable in how it performs.

Not sure. For me it'll work and then mysteriously it won't. It just hasn't been reliable enough for me to use it consistently without having to go through modifications to get it running reliably again. If they'd do something along the lines of Google inbox I'd jump for sure. Along with the technical issues I just feel it's kind of a messy app. My opinion of course.
 

wrldwzrd89

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Jun 6, 2003
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On a clean install of the general release. Handbrake with libdvdcss no longer works. libdvd errors out on install, saying it is not compatible with El Capitan. So, no more backing up your DVD's. You think they will get this fixed?
The trouble here is that libdvdcss tries to install to a folder protected by Rootless; furthermore, HandBrake expects it to be in said folder. This means BOTH components need to be fixed - the good news is that the change won't break in older OS X versions.
 

AZhappyjack

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It looks like El Capitan has killed GeekTool. The geeklets display properly, but the set up process (Shell, Image, File) cause the screen to turn white and none of the geeklets are visible and therefore are not editable.
 

kappaknight

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Mar 5, 2009
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Not sure. For me it'll work and then mysteriously it won't. It just hasn't been reliable enough for me to use it consistently without having to go through modifications to get it running reliably again. If they'd do something along the lines of Google inbox I'd jump for sure. Along with the technical issues I just feel it's kind of a messy app. My opinion of course.

If you use Gmail exclusively, check out Kiwi for Gmail.
 

beebarb

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Sep 10, 2015
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On a clean install of the general release. Handbrake with libdvdcss no longer works. libdvd errors out on install, saying it is not compatible with El Capitan. So, no more backing up your DVD's. You think they will get this fixed?
Well, it should be working. I just used Handbrake to copy a DVD I wanted to watch on my iPod, and it works flawlessly.

Though it may because I'm using a nightly build of Handbrake, with a manually installed copy of libdvdcss.
 

beebarb

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The trouble here is that libdvdcss tries to install to a folder protected by Rootless; furthermore, HandBrake expects it to be in said folder. This means BOTH components need to be fixed - the good news is that the change won't break in older OS X versions.
Actually, the only issue is with the *.pkg installer for libdvdcss, as that tries to copy the dylib to a now protected location.
Handbrake actually checks multiple locations for libdvdcss, and at least one of them is still user modifiable.
 

wrldwzrd89

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Jun 6, 2003
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Solon, OH
Actually, the only issue is with the *.pkg installer for libdvdcss, as that tries to copy the dylib to a now protected location.
Handbrake actually checks multiple locations for libdvdcss, and at least one of them is still user modifiable.
That's good news then. So the PKG installer is broken, but the functionality itself isn't. :)
 

appleBiggestFun

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Jun 7, 2015
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Homebrew seems to be broken. Checked in El Capitan GM.

Warning: You are using OS X 10.11.

We do not provide support for this pre-release version.
 

fhall1

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It looks like El Capitan has killed GeekTool. The geeklets display properly, but the set up process (Shell, Image, File) cause the screen to turn white and none of the geeklets are visible and therefore are not editable.

Found this on a different site:

"Call up the preferences window, then deselect the Enabled checkbox. Your normal background should be visible. Select the Enabled checkbox and the white overlay still appears, but this time, the geeklets are on top of it. You can individually select and modify any of the geeklets, as well as add new geeklets. The one main issue is that you can not see your desktop background, so the colors chosen for new geeklets may or may not work. Not great, but a workable solution for now. The developer is aware of the issue and is working on a permanent solution"
 

AZhappyjack

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Found this on a different site:

"Call up the preferences window, then deselect the Enabled checkbox. Your normal background should be visible. Select the Enabled checkbox and the white overlay still appears, but this time, the geeklets are on top of it. You can individually select and modify any of the geeklets, as well as add new geeklets. The one main issue is that you can not see your desktop background, so the colors chosen for new geeklets may or may not work. Not great, but a workable solution for now. The developer is aware of the issue and is working on a permanent solution"

Unfortunately, that doesn't work. When I re-check the Enable box, the white overlay appears on top of the geeklets.
 

fhall1

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Dec 18, 2007
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Unfortunately, that doesn't work. When I re-check the Enable box, the white overlay appears on top of the geeklets.

Well....there's still hope....I went to Geektool's FB page and this was posted Aug 4th:

"I finally found some time to work on GeekTool issues with El Capitan. I'm glad to announce that everything is back to normal, a new version will be available soon."
 

jfreed

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Jun 9, 2015
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New York
Well, it should be working. I just used Handbrake to copy a DVD I wanted to watch on my iPod, and it works flawlessly.

Though it may because I'm using a nightly build of Handbrake, with a manually installed copy of libdvdcss.

I'm curious - how did you do a manual install of the libdvdcss?
 
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