Yea that's true, but it just makes me so upset to hear these "computer gurus" make such idiotic statements! Like you said it is nothing more than laziness on their behalf.
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PC Guy tells wife not to get Macbook
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Yea that's true, but it just makes me so upset to hear these "computer gurus" make such idiotic statements! Like you said it is nothing more than laziness on their behalf.
that's exactly what I was going to suggest. Someone should tell that PC guy to try and install macOSX on his pc and see what happens.
You go mac now, you can run windows. Use that as a selling point to her. Say, get the mac, install windows and it'll be there if she ever needs it.
But I am sure once the missus starts playing with macOSX she won't want to go back.
Well, I have had my MBP now for a few months. My wife, who at first was skeptical because of what the PC guy told her, is now wanting to buy herself a White Macbook.
She has even been praising the Mac at work, around the PC guy, lol.
Funny what a few months of Mac will do to you!
She has even been praising the Mac at work, around the PC guy, lol.
Funny what a few months of Mac will do to you!
I have family and relatives who refuse to try out osx. They can't explain to me why they think it sucks or why they refuse to try. But what I really think is that some people are lazy and too comfortable with the pc. They immediately despise something which seems different to them like "omg how do i surf the web with this thing? where's my Internet Explorer? and how to I check mail? there's no outlook!"
Since I'm one of the more computer savvy individuals in the family, they always ask me for pc help, especially with spyware, adware, asking me for anti-virus but not wanting to pay for norton or macafee, how to transfer video from their camcorder to the computer onto a dvd. I could keep going, and I like having the satisfaction of saying "I told you so" when someone makes an unauthorized transaction with their credit card somewhere else around the world.
Since I'm one of the more computer savvy individuals in the family, they always ask me for pc help, especially with spyware, adware, asking me for anti-virus but not wanting to pay for norton or macafee, how to transfer video from their camcorder to the computer onto a dvd. I could keep going, and I like having the satisfaction of saying "I told you so" when someone makes an unauthorized transaction with their credit card somewhere else around the world.
Your wife seems to be spending an awful lot of time around the PC guy, I think you need to install some kind of spycam
Out of all the years I've watched Apple this is probably the reason I never officially switched until recently.
It was both being scared and comfortable with the OS I was in. After time, I starting playing with Linux and when it was made available, created a hacintosh. After playing with Vista for a few weeks I was fed up, and after watching the Special Event and iLife 08 was announced I was sold. I nabbed the CC from the wife and bought it.
Later I bought her one. She's not computer savvy but she did say she wouldn't have been as excited about her new laptop if it was a pc. In other words she was more excited and all 'giddy' that it was a Mac and SHE LOVES IT. Heck we both love our Macs and are quite comfortable with them now. It's a learning curve at first but you catch on quick. She (being the extremely less computer savvy of the 2 of us) has even manage to, on her own navigate and accomplish many tasks on the Mac without my assistance.
Similar situations to my house as I pointed out above. Yes she loves hers, and I love mine. We're happy to have made the switch.
Your wife seems to be spending an awful lot of time around the PC guy, I think you need to install some kind of spycam
And remember that PCs are prone to catching and passing on all sorts of viruses.
As a "support guy" myself, I agree that the PC guy who told your wife that is either dumb or knowingly leading her in the wrong direction.
* Any tech guy who claims Macs have no software is still living in the previous decade.
* Any tech guy who claims Macs come with a one button mouse only is still living in the previous decade.
* Any tech guy who claims networking is difficult on the Mac is showing he has never done any networking on the Mac......... EVER.
* Any tech guy who claims Apple uses proprietary software (formats) only obviously has NO UNDERSTANDING of software formats at all. In fact, Apple is more open than MS (who is still trying to force feed proprietary WMV, WMA formats to Windows users).
There's obviously a lot more, but you get the point. I have little sympathy for people who ignore my advice and by a PC. In fact, they keep my part-time support business going.
* Any tech guy who claims Macs have no software is still living in the previous decade.
* Any tech guy who claims Macs come with a one button mouse only is still living in the previous decade.
* Any tech guy who claims networking is difficult on the Mac is showing he has never done any networking on the Mac......... EVER.
* Any tech guy who claims Apple uses proprietary software (formats) only obviously has NO UNDERSTANDING of software formats at all. In fact, Apple is more open than MS (who is still trying to force feed proprietary WMV, WMA formats to Windows users).
There's obviously a lot more, but you get the point. I have little sympathy for people who ignore my advice and by a PC. In fact, they keep my part-time support business going.
No offense but a lot of those PC tech guys are pretty low rent, low on skills, and tend to think they know a lot more than they actually do know.
I've worked in IT for 12 years in large environments (3,000 - 70,000 seats) doing sysadmin/engineering, mostly in the Windows arena. My personal laptop is.. A Macbook. Since the Intel switch there is no compelling reason not to buy a Mac unless you are a hardcore gamer who wants to run the latest whiz bang high end 3D cards.
I've worked in IT for 12 years in large environments (3,000 - 70,000 seats) doing sysadmin/engineering, mostly in the Windows arena. My personal laptop is.. A Macbook. Since the Intel switch there is no compelling reason not to buy a Mac unless you are a hardcore gamer who wants to run the latest whiz bang high end 3D cards.
I think it's funny to read all the "PC guys suck" posts. lol
I'm a PC IT administrator (10 years experience, not low rent ), who happens to use a Mac. I tell everyone that I use a Mac because it runs everything my PC runs... but at 10x the speed. I tell them it's a reliable system that doesn't break, and if it breaks, it's something I've done purposely to break it. They then nod their head and walk away. lol
I sit in front of a piece of crap DELL for eight hours in the day... I positively HATE the software that it comes with, and found myself today wanting to delete something I had typed in trying to go "ctrl+delete key" to delete, and trying to press "enter" to quickly rename a file. I then shook my head and giggled and said, "Windows isn't that easy."
I have never loved a pair of hardware devices as much as I love my iPhone and MacBook Pro... The tech who told your misses that has had his head in the sand for the last 5 years.
I'm a PC IT administrator (10 years experience, not low rent
), who happens to use a Mac. I tell everyone that I use a Mac because it runs everything my PC runs... but at 10x the speed. I tell them it's a reliable system that doesn't break, and if it breaks, it's something I've done purposely to break it. They then nod their head and walk away. lolI sit in front of a piece of crap DELL for eight hours in the day... I positively HATE the software that it comes with, and found myself today wanting to delete something I had typed in trying to go "ctrl+delete key" to delete, and trying to press "enter" to quickly rename a file. I then shook my head and giggled and said, "Windows isn't that easy."
I have never loved a pair of hardware devices as much as I love my iPhone and MacBook Pro... The tech who told your misses that has had his head in the sand for the last 5 years.
The fact is - that PC's are better for photos, video, games and music in terms of personal entertainment use and ultimately what you can do. However the platform assumes a slightly higher degree of knowledge and ability in terms of knowing how your computer works.
If on the other hand you don't quite know what you're doing, then Macs - or more specifically iLife - may in all likelihood work better for you as it's more elegantly integrated/working for the absolute beginner, while bearing in mind that those tools provided are very easy to grow out of if you are a fast learner.
It's one of those situations where you shouldn't flatter yourself to get the solution which really works for you.
No/little clue and relatively simple needs - Mac.
Lotsa clue and flexible needs - Windows.
Bingo. It's a pity there's so much useless "Windows sucks!!11!!" rubbish one has to read through to find logical posts in this thread.
That's not a fact, it's an opinion.
And Apple's Pro-level apps (Final Cut, Logic, etc.) are certainly not for the clueless.
Oh, Sesshi, you're so funny!
I know exactly what I'm doing. That's why I use a Mac (and support Windows). I have highly demanding & complex needs, and my time is more important to me accomplishing work than massaging a recalcitrant OS and incompatible apps.
Face it - computers are a commodity item, and as such should, by all rights, simply perform the tasks asked of them without requiring understanding of the difference between an exe or dll. If one prefers to continue tinkering & tweaking, great, but don't presume that everyone should have to. As an IT gearhead from before the days of "IT", I'd love to continue my permanent employment holding hands, and frankly, making buggywhips.
As much as I love working on my cars, I won't touch anything made in the last thirty years or so - I don't have the desire for ASE certs on all the crap under the hood. Small block Chevy's, on the other hand, I can rebuild with my eyes closed. PC's are maturing the same way, but at a faster rate. Apple's just figured that out sooner, and gotten on with the task of making the computer work for us, instead of the other way around. Microsoft will get there, too. Some day.
I'm a PC technician at a university and I have a PowerBook at home.
When people ask me what the best computers are, I say Macs all the time.
Ok yeah, for offices (and our univeristy infrastructure) PC's are better suited because 90% of people already have experience with Windows XP, but I have convinced my department to buy a new 20" iMac for video editing, and 3 out of 9 of our PC engineers have macs at home.
Go MAC!
When people ask me what the best computers are, I say Macs all the time.
Ok yeah, for offices (and our univeristy infrastructure) PC's are better suited because 90% of people already have experience with Windows XP, but I have convinced my department to buy a new 20" iMac for video editing, and 3 out of 9 of our PC engineers have macs at home.
Go MAC!
Bull.
I run a studio with a PC in it, which has JUST had a fresh install of Windows (and a new hard drive + cleaned contacts throughout) and the damn thing still chucks me out of programs. I have tried different drivers for all my hardware, even different hardware and different software combinations, and it still keeps crashing.
My Mac, which runs much cheaper and 'less professional' software (Logic Express) is a heck of a lot more stable, plus is loaded with what PC users commonly refer to as 'junk', games, weird little apps I've downloaded, iTunes music, movies, photos etc...
I know what I'm doing with PCs, but I still cannot get them to do what I want.
Believe me, I know PCs inside out, and I can still do heck of a lot more on a Mac, than I can on a PC.
Hold the phone peeps let's not paint too broadly. I'm a PC technician in a corporate environment, and people ask me almost daily which is "better." I'm also a certified Apple technician, incidentally. Is it any less appropriate for me to sell them on Apple's? Personally -I don't think it matters ethically for me to give them my opinion since I'm not obligated to either camp.
I tell them its a matter of several factors involving both preference and immediate need. I explain that Apple's are generally speaking going to last longer, because in my experience they do. Even my old G4 titanium laptop is still going strong enough to use professionally. But I also explain that we're comparing not only the hardware but the software, namely OS's and the advantages of Apple's fixed hardware platform. Mac's are prettier, sturdier, and due to fixed hardware specs more consistent over time, both in terms of user maintenance/intervention and cost to repair. Is this changing for the worse, I'm not sure. I don't own an iMac but it seems there's a lot of whining about them. Then again Apple is marketing aggressively to attract non-technical/ non-savvy users who are at the same time new to the Apple platform.
Are Apple's better? Well.. depends on you. I like em a lot, but I haven't tossed out my old PC's and use them often. I also think Windows is clearly superior in an enterprise environment.
My point though is that the "real" nerds are open to all technology and don't fall prey so much to the marketing hype. I think both PC and Mac fanboys alike only become rabid in response to ignorant unqualified statements that might spread negative PR for their preferred platform. This is why I've felt Apple is perhaps polluting the water for everyone their Mac guy /PC guy campaign. Innovation and cleverness should always speak for itself and Apple's ads exploit this concept to the degree that whenever Apple screws up there's twice the fallout. For example, you see a lot of posts saying, "I thought Apple's were supposed to be so great, well I'm on my 4th iMac." As I mentioned, this is coupled by their targeting of buyers who are generally less computer savvy, more hype susceptible. It also puts PC geeks on the strong defensive.
AHAHAHAH that's a big joke right? I've been in computers all my life and that's what I do for a living and I'm lmao'ing at your comment. I'm sorry for putting it like this but it's the biggest load of ******** I've ever seen...or close anyway.
To add to everyone's comments about the post "Macs are for noobs," I originally had the mindset that PCs were so much better than Macs, and I laughed at people who bought them. But I was first introduced to Macs in college and using them more and more in labs got me thinking that I actually preferred to work on a Mac.
When I got my first Mac ever, my MBP, I was at first still a little hesitant because I would be using that quite a bit for doing my work. That hesitancy was gone, however, after a couple days of using it. I was a major PC supporter before I owned a Mac, but now I love my MBP. I would probably never buy a Mac Pro or another Mac desktop PC simply because I prefer to build my own PCs and be able to upgrade them when I see fit. For me the combo of building my own PCs and owning a MBP is the right balance for me.
When I got my first Mac ever, my MBP, I was at first still a little hesitant because I would be using that quite a bit for doing my work. That hesitancy was gone, however, after a couple days of using it. I was a major PC supporter before I owned a Mac, but now I love my MBP. I would probably never buy a Mac Pro or another Mac desktop PC simply because I prefer to build my own PCs and be able to upgrade them when I see fit. For me the combo of building my own PCs and owning a MBP is the right balance for me.
So, he'd be pretty stupid if he'd recommend the company to buy Macs ;-) (If you were a taxi driver, would you recommend your customers to take the bus?)
I bought my wife the Mac Mini when it first came out a few years ago. She is paralyzed on her left side, has a quarter of her vision and only half a brain and has no problem using her Mac. She loves it, the kids love it, I love my Macbook pro. I guess she makes the saying "I can do it with half a brain and my hands tied behind my back" about true
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Ahhhhh, have you programmed in Windows for any length of time?
I call it the API of the month club... Just when you have it figured out they switch it on you. Then when they can't make anymore crap up, they invent a new language! LOL