PC Guy tells wife not to get Macbook

[Les Kern]

Luckily in my case, if I were to have a boyfriend (and ergo, a civil union) I wouldn't have to put up with the BS that goes with it; sharing the costs but allowing one to keep ones own spending money.

Hmm, now that I think about it, that's how my aunty and her husband work, same goes for my parents as well.

PS. What happened to the womens lib of 'women are doing it for themselves'?

Point taken, and to each their own. Guess I'm old fashioned and like the traditional "married as one" philosophy. Although SOMETIMES I don't.
Actually I DO have my own spending money, but a computer that costs that much surely must be a joint decision. We have a house to run and a child to get through college. The money spent on a $1,500 laptop, compounded over 10 years, comes to what?
Anyway, I'm still waiting for an example from my above reply how my $4,500 Mac Pro doesn't "scale" as well as a PC box.

 

[Father Jack]

How can the guy defend Windows without laughing?

 

[mrrory]

It's always amusing how peecee technicians look down on Apple.

Well yes. As Apple continues to grow, the need for "peecee" guys becomes less! Apple's putting them out of a job

 

[kaiwai]

Well yes. As Apple continues to grow, the need for "peecee" guys becomes less! Apple's putting them out of a job

More correctly, the only PC guys whom I know who give Apple a hard time seem to be the same people who hate *BSD, Linux and any sort of UNIX.

Nothing to do with technology, everything to do with the fact that they're a clueless nitwit, and UNIX shows up all their ignorance in a space of 5 minutes.

These people think because they have a 300 button mouse, and move the cursor around at 100km, and label themselves a 'power user' it some how elevates them above everyone else.

On the good side, I always like to see them give me a hard time because I'm a 'Mac Weeny' then me turn around and mop the floor with them over the fact that I'm a UNIX guy who happens to like Mac OS X and all its UNIX sexiness.

UNIX underpinnings with access to lots of mainstream applications - the perfect marriage.

 

[Cave Man]

How can the guy defend Windows without laughing?

Psychiatrists have a name for that.

 

[deputy_doofy]

^^ what is that thing below your trackpad to the right? OMG ANOTHER BUTTON! There is TWO buttons on the MBP, but they are set to act as a regular click.

Not so. All Mac laptops have one button. However, putting 2 fingers on the track-pad while clicking that one button acts as a "right-click." I much prefer that anyway.

 

[Father Jack]

Psychiatrists have a name for that.

Could it possibly be "daft **** syndrome"?

 

[deputy_doofy]

More correctly, the only PC guys whom I know who give Apple a hard time seem to be the same people who hate *BSD, Linux and any sort of UNIX.

Nothing to do with technology, everything to do with the fact that they're a clueless nitwit, and UNIX shows up all their ignorance in a space of 5 minutes.

These people think because they have a 300 button mouse, and move the cursor around at 100km, and label themselves a 'power user' it some how elevates them above everyone else.

On the good side, I always like to see them give me a hard time because I'm a 'Mac Weeny' then me turn around and mop the floor with them over the fact that I'm a UNIX guy who happens to like Mac OS X and all its UNIX sexiness.

UNIX underpinnings with access to lots of mainstream applications - the perfect marriage.

This is true. Most "IT guys" that give Mac users a hard time these days have no understanding of UNIX. All they know is Windows and think being a Windows expert is synonymous with being a computer expert. I don't know UNIX or Linux, but I have enough of a brain to appreicate ALL OS's, including Windows and its lovable flaws (that make me some occasional money to fix ).

 

[kaiwai]

This is true. Most "IT guys" that give Mac users a hard time these days have no understanding of UNIX. All they know is Windows and think being a Windows expert is synonymous with being a computer expert. I don't know UNIX or Linux, but I have enough of a brain to appreicate ALL OS's, including Windows and its lovable flaws (that make me some occasional money to fix ).

For me, my first computer was a BBC Micro, then an Amiga 500, followed by a PC (loaded Slackware Linux on it, then moved to FreeBSD), then moved to Mac. Within that time I taught myself BBC BASIC, AmigaBASIC and AMOS - I dabbled in some REXX. I had too much time up my sleeve one day and start to dabble in COBOL.

It isn't until you use UNIX, use Windows, and see Windows uses who push themselves off as experts, like you said, are completely clueless about computers. UNIX throws you into the deep and with bricks around both ankles and tells you that you're on your own.

Windows on the other hand hand holds you all the way, giving you the illusion you know what is happen, when in reality, its just one big massive wizard which massages peoples ego.

 

[Sesshi]

Sesshi loves to tease us. His posts are like a ball of yarn to kittens.

And it may have escaped the Applezombies notice that I was actually recommending the Mac for the OP's needs / situation as it would be more suitable.

Bat away, kitties.

As for the rest, I might answer it later at my leisure - some discussions arising from nature of the disparagement of my posts might actually prove interesting.

 

[Les Kern]

And it may have escaped the Applezombies notice that I was actually recommending the Mac for the OP's needs / situation as it would be more suitable.

Bat away, kitties.

As for the rest, I might answer it later at my leisure - some discussions arising from nature of the disparagement of my posts might actually prove interesting.

You began your post with a positively LUDICROUS statement you seem to think is true, thereby making the drivel past that moot. Would it surprise you we're all not sitting around waiting for the Word from above?

>SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0
0 rows returned

 

[Sesshi]

I suppose it depends on whether aggressive ignorance and blind acceptance is your idea of a clue. It occurs to me that it's probably impossible to have an even-handed discussion because most parties here will not even be willing to look at non-Apple solutions, but perhaps expanding on the responses to my post a little more wouldn't hurt. Expect a response in a few days maybe - then perhaps you can roll that around for a while.

 

[Bearxor]

The people in this thread who say that Apple computer selling well are driving PC techs out of jobs are just ill-informed. I work at a newspaper dealing with about 40 PC's and 60 Mac's. The tickets put in by the mac users far exceed those of the PC users. We don't hear from the PC users usually unless it involves installing software they don't have permission for, they forgot their password and are locked out of their account or their computer has up and completely died (usually hard drive)

Tha Mac problems are much more varied and numerous ranging from the computer up and dying (usually hard drive) to bad preference files that need to be tracked down and reset. It seems, at least in my experience, that the Windows machines "just work" at work, whereas the Mac require almost constant attention.

Luckily we're switching out about 25 Mac's in the newsroom for windows machines here in the next month or so. Partly because of a editorial system change, partly because our corporate sales contacts we attempted to contact a couple of days after christmas were all on vacation (Dell was staffed and partly because of the piss-poor way that I felt like I've been treated by Apple with the whole MBP Keyboard + Leopard issue.

And also, to the person on the last page who mentioned something about most movies being done in FCP. I'm not sure I put stock in that without seeing some research. I'm currently enrolled ina Television Production class and all the TV stations in the area use Avid and according to a quite a few trade shows with presentations I've been to in the past year, FCP is catching up, but Avid remains the industry standard. I've not done any official research on it, however, and I know that often times statements like the one you made originate from personal experience, just as mine seems to be that Avid is still the industry leader in Film/TV.

 

[JNB]

The tickets put in by the mac users far exceed those of the PC users.

Tell them to quit trying to apply Windows fixes! Chances are, it already worked, they just didn't know it!

 

[ZachsMacDaddy]

This is true. Most "IT guys" that give Mac users a hard time these days have no understanding of UNIX. All they know is Windows and think being a Windows expert is synonymous with being a computer expert. I don't know UNIX or Linux, but I have enough of a brain to appreicate ALL OS's, including Windows and its lovable flaws (that make me some occasional money to fix ).

I'll openly admit that I am an "IT Guy." I have been for 12 years now. I have even worked for and received my MCSE: Security. However, while I get paid to support Windows workstations and servers, I will not discourage people from Linux or Mac OSX. I openly use my Macbook at work with no shame having Microsoft certificates hanging over an Apple product. I have built Linux systems as well.

I can't see any reason why Windows, OSX, Linux, BSD... cannot work in the same space. Each has their place, their strengths and their weaknesses.

I have worked with many many "IT Guys" who will take time to slam OSX & Linux when a user mentions them. Usually they take have these opinions because A - they have never used anything but Windows, B - they are afraid that if someone gets a Mac they will look like an idiot because they only know Windows, C - A & B.

I apologize for those guys, they just don't get it. Use what you want. Use what you like. Use what gets the job done for you.