My work PC was last reinstalled back in 2020 via company portal and hasn't slowed down ever since.
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PCs last longer than Macs
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I can't even remember how long my Windows 11 install has been going .... years at this point as it was a direct in place upgrade from Windows 10, no reinstall
So many of the old fables about Windows and bad performance and issues are just not true anymore
Huh? Apple is still providing security updates for Monterey. 12.7.5 was just released in May, and runs on my old 2015 MBP just fine (although it's waaaaay too slow for my taste).
In the fall they won't provide security updates anymore…………………………………………………………………………………
Right. Several releases back. So my old MBP will have over 9 years of updates since new.
"Security updates" is a nice word for bug fixing...have they still fixing those bugs all those 9 years?
Software as complex as an operating system will always have bugs that require fixing. Heck, pretty much any piece of software that actually does something will have bugs in it.
Almost all laptops are powered by usb c now, you can get phone battery packs to power them now, so Apple's laptop battery life isn't as impressive now.
Well sure. See, back in first-year Uni, we learned about things called "sets" and "subsets". Those things we call "Security Vulnerabilities" are a subset of other things we call "bugs". It's kind of like that subset of animals we call bunny rabbits. All bunny rabbits are animals but not all animals are bunny rabbits. Get it now?
Okay. So if you're still following along: When we fix a "bug" in general, it is called "bug fixing". When we fix a "bug" that happens to be part of that subset of bugs we call "security vulnerabilities", we also call it a "security update." All security updates are bug fixes, but not all bug fixes are security updates. There is a reason why this particular type of bug fix is considered special.
Apple still leaving critical vulnerabilities unpatched in macOS Sonoma - The Mac Security Blog
Apple still hasn’t patched several critical, years-old vulnerabilities in open-source components of macOS Sonoma—and the company won’t say why.
Apple has so many security holes it's pathetic and some of the security issues have been out there for years and apple won't fix them on the OS they were discovered on and you can't update either because your Mac is unsupported, but Apple 'recommends' you to use the latest version of OS X…
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Yep. This is why I firmly believe if macOS was as popular as iOS, we would have a giant mess on our hands. The equivalent of Windows XP pre-SP2 days.Apple still leaving critical vulnerabilities unpatched in macOS Sonoma - The Mac Security Blog
Apple still hasn’t patched several critical, years-old vulnerabilities in open-source components of macOS Sonoma—and the company won’t say why.www.intego.com
Apple has so many security holes it's pathetic and some of the security issues have been out there for years and apple won't fix them on the OS they were discovered on and you can't update either because your Mac is unsupported, but Apple 'recommends' you to use the latest version of OS X…
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When Sonoma was release, Apple dropped support for Macs from 2013 to 2015. So they were supported for 8 to 10 years. The OP stated they wanted at least 5 years of support. What's the problem?
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Security updates for each OS release for at least 5 years of support…
Like Big Sur released 2020 and security updates till 2025.
I already read your OP. You compared Macs to a Windows PC running Windows 11 (the latest upgrade).
You didn't answer my question. What's the problem with Apple supporting a Mac with 8-10 years of upgrades, updates and security patches. Seems reasonable to me.
The main problem is Apple supporting some of the Macs way less than that. Some only for 4 years…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
You pay so much more because of an Apple logo, yet you get an insecure system that apple doesn't care for at all.
PCs just last longer + has way more software supported.
No, they're not. They used to. I just linked to the last Macs that they dropped support for.
I certainly don't pay for a logo. I pay for the combination of hardware and software that has a real world record of being safer to use and does everything I need it to.
They did in 2011 and before……………………………………………
It's getting tiring to repeat very same things tbh
This. I also find it more reliable and more hassle free. I also appreciate the integration across devices.
Again, no need to repeat yourself. I acknowledged that they "used to" support them less. But you claimed that Apple is currently supporting Macs way less than that. That's not true.
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