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iPad Pro Pencil and Magic Keyboard compatibility
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Out of curiosity, what's the purpose of waiting to see what iPadOS brings in relation to the new iPads? Are you expecting features to be locked to the new iPads?
Because we all know what happen with the M1 iPads, expecting something special for WWDC that year... when that ended in disappointment. I've learned my lesson then, which I should have known better... buy for what the device is currently not on speculative features.
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and post mine now... rather start early than later. Personally, WWDC won't weigh into my decision... I've had plans on buying this year's iPad since I skipped the last generation (I believe this warrants an upgrade).
I think the best reason to wait... is for some discounts. I'm just bummed out about the cost of everything.
Yes, and it’s because they changed how the wireless charging works. There is no model that supports both the Pencil 2 and the Pencil Pro.
The GPS is useful even if you’re using tethering. And when tethering with an iPhone, it’s a battery drain for the iPhone.
The existing Pencil will not work with the new iPads, it has a different charging/pairing system as the webcam is now in the way
No compatibility with Smart Keyboard Folios for the new iPads. No new Smart Keyboard Folios either. 
I am NOT a fan of how quickly battery drains with the pre-existing Magic Keyboards.
I'm hoping that someone is able to verify if the Smart Keyboard Folios for the now-discontinued iPad Pros work on the new iPad Airs. It seems like there ought to not be any reason why it shouldn't. But Apple isn't advertising it. My getting a 13-inch iPad Air would entirely depend on compatibility with said keyboard. Otherwise, Apple is probably losing me as a customer of larger tablets. (Secretly, I'm totally okay with the iPad side of my Apple arsenal just being an iPad mini.)
I am NOT a fan of how quickly battery drains with the pre-existing Magic Keyboards.
I'm hoping that someone is able to verify if the Smart Keyboard Folios for the now-discontinued iPad Pros work on the new iPad Airs. It seems like there ought to not be any reason why it shouldn't. But Apple isn't advertising it. My getting a 13-inch iPad Air would entirely depend on compatibility with said keyboard. Otherwise, Apple is probably losing me as a customer of larger tablets. (Secretly, I'm totally okay with the iPad side of my Apple arsenal just being an iPad mini.)
I am in Europa, here iPhones support full SIM. I am assuming it's the same for iPads, at least I hope...
PS Well, after checking it seems that the M4 is eSim only indeed, that's a big bummer, so I am not sure I am upgrading after all since for me a physical sim is a big deal for travelling
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Thing is, I am still trying to justify spending over $2500 when I already have a M1 iPad pro with MK and pencil 2.
So on the one hand I want to see if I can do more than what I can do now, if there are some important AI features that are locked to the M4, and I also want to see reviews and see in person the new devices to see how much lighter they feel. What I really wanted was a larger iPad that could be similar in weight to the current 12.9, but a 13" that is much lighter is tempting too. Also I want to see for how much I manage to sell my M1 pro. If nobody buys it for at least $600 I am not sure I would be selling it at such a big loss...
I’ve ordered the 13” WiFi 512 Gb + pro pencil and new MK. To soften the blow I sold my old 11” pro 128GB A12Z from 2020 to a friend for 150 EUR. I don’t think I’m ripping him off, it is still a nice tablet.
I also plan to sell my current 12.9” M1 256GB WiFi. How much would I be able to get you think?
I also plan to sell my current 12.9” M1 256GB WiFi. How much would I be able to get you think?
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Trust me, I‘m juggling with that… right now. Because performance wise… the M1 is perfectly okay. I’m more curious how this new display will look, that’s where I want the comparisons.
I would be totally shocked if AI features are locked to the M4 when WWDC roll around, but given this whole situation with these new accessories are specifically tied to the new Pros. I’d take that back, totally within Apple’s brand.
Honestly the miniled screen is already so good I am not looking for anything better in the oled itself. Having said that the nano texture could be a big deal IMO. And for me the main argument is the weight. But I really want to see what reviewers think of the new device before I pull the trigger...
No doubt, Mini-LED is good. But I want to understand the need for the $300 price difference between the two sizes (new Airs are $200 a part). So, I'm just curious how this OLED will look... there has to be a reason why Apple has taxed us another $100.
I'm not planning on buying that option... don't get me wrong, I travel with my iPad often. But I can pass on that, and weight has never really been an issue for me.
I'm pulling the trigger regardless... I like to be the judge for myself, only thing I want from reviewers is their thoughts regarding the old vs new accessories.
Well in the meantime I have checked and it seems that even here in Europe the new iPads are eSIM only, so I am not sure I am upgrading after all since for me a physical sim is a big deal for travelling (many places don't have eSIM or eSIM plans are way more expensive than regular cellular plans). I do this every year and buy a local sim for my M1. If I cannot do that it means I need to keep my M1, which makes no sense if I buy the M4... That's very disappointing...
I hate the blacks on my screen. That’s the biggest reason I’m upgrading. Also I can afford to upgrade now and think this iPad will last me a long time.
Disappointing, indeed! Perhaps, go the Wi-Fi route and keep the M1 for traveling? Just a suggestion.
Yeah but that sounds like so much waste to keep the M1 + accessories just for when I travel... Otherwise I should use a secondary phone like my old iphone SE first gen as modem, which is annoying...
If it's eSim only I am not buying the 5G, at least I'll save that money...
Well, on second thought. I’ll likely wait until WWDC as you suggest... mainly for some motivation lol.
Because these accessories has thrown my plans off. My plan initially was to keep my current accessories (buy the new ones at a later date) and pick up the 13” TB Cellular Pro, but now I’d have to purchase the accessories (that’s roughly $500) something I wasn’t expecting to do.
I could opt for the base 13” Pro cellular model and purchase the accessories… but I’m sure I’ll miss the luxury of all that storage. Decisions, decisions, decisions.
Between the nano texture and the RAM I would not go under 1TB. I know 8GB is plenty now, but this is a very future proof device and I would regret not getting the 16GB RAM down the line. Personally I can be ok with 256 (but 128 is tight) but for the RAM is a big argument.
I caved. I decided to go ahead and upgrade to the 1TB cellular model, I‘d like to see that OLED display… but going to wait on the accessories.
And as you mention, it’s future proof…. I’d end having it for at least 2 years. I’m bound to find some discounts on accessories during that time.
The previous magic keyboard works with the new m4 13” ipad pro. the magnets are misaligned so it does not stick to the keyboard, but the keyboard, trackpad and charging work.
I just tested now.
updating ipados now.