Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

deep diver

macrumors 68030
Jan 17, 2008
2,711
4,522
Philadelphia.
How hoppy? I generally find American IPAs a bit OTT, although I not that it is called Imperial IPA - to what does the Imperial refer?

American IPAs tend to be bitter. I'm not sure why anyone thought that was a good idea. As I have said many times, if you want to come over here I will give you a not bitter American IPA.
 
  • Like
Reactions: StrollerEd

deep diver

macrumors 68030
Jan 17, 2008
2,711
4,522
Philadelphia.
Cool, I did not know that, but I am not surprised since it seems to be not uncommon for micro-brewers to also have a pub/restaurant. Is this (Great Lakes restaurant) in the Cleveland area?

Also, I think I have had Great Lakes beer before and liked it. ? ?

It's a Cleveland company. They are located near the West Side Market where some of my food picts were taken.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Captain Trips

deep diver

macrumors 68030
Jan 17, 2008
2,711
4,522
Philadelphia.
And now I get to fill them up again.
And empty them again.
And fill them again.
And empty them again.
.............

It is never ending hoppiness.

Empties 01 resize.jpg
 

PinkyMacGodess

Suspended
Mar 7, 2007
10,271
6,228
Midwest America.
And now I get to fill them up again.
And empty them again.
And fill them again.
And empty them again.
.............

It is never ending hoppiness.

View attachment 1775669

But they're empty.

HAH! I have probably hundreds of empties waiting to go back for the ransom I paid for them.

Oh, or are these waiting to be filled with some local made concoction? Ooh....

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't read the caption. Party on!!!
 

deep diver

macrumors 68030
Jan 17, 2008
2,711
4,522
Philadelphia.
But they're empty.

HAH! I have probably hundreds of empties waiting to go back for the ransom I paid for them.

Oh, or are these waiting to be filled with some local made concoction? Ooh....

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't read the caption. Party on!!!

I've got about 300 of them. I've never had more than 200 filled at the same time, but that extra 100 helps ease the pain if I break one. Home brewers know you can NEVER have enough bottles.

The Midwest is a big area but if you're not too far away, I'd be happy to relieve you of the burden. :D
 

PinkyMacGodess

Suspended
Mar 7, 2007
10,271
6,228
Midwest America.
I've got about 300 of them. I've never had more than 200 filled at the same time, but that extra 100 helps ease the pain if I break one. Home brewers know you can NEVER have enough bottles.

The Midwest is a big area but if you're not too far away, I'd be happy to relieve you of the burden. :D

I had this idea that I was going to brew my own beer. I bought the 'kit', and was all set to rock the brewing world.

And then, fermentation stopped in a day. I waited the time I was supposed to, and opened up the fermentation tank.

I had about an inch of something between moss and fungus growing on top. I was really surprised it was so thick, and didn't actually smell bad. I dumped it. I had no idea to even try to taste it. I had accumulated over four dozen flip-top Grolsch bottles. I almost cried when I returned them. DOH!

EDIT: Someone actually asked me if I tried it! I'm serious. 'Didd you taste it?' Um, NO!!! ?????? (Would you lick your dog's butt?) I really solidly and whole heartedly passed on the opportunity to 'taste' whatever was in that tank. There was a thick residue on the bottom so someone told me that, well yes indeed it appeared to have exhausted its 'yeast load', and what was left *could* have tasted pretty good. I mean, I was stunned. I was concerned that whatever was in that tank was 'not of this world', and likely to cause instant transmogrification into a species that would want to lick things that people just aren't supposed to lick. I have a rather expensive 'brew kit' that I bought literally just before the pandemic was THE THING, and the yeast went bad, so I bought more and that was in October, so I have performance anxiety. Will I excel at 'brewing' moss and fungus that will end humanity, or can I actually make something drinkable by normal human beings, without ending their lives?

Performance anxiety. Yeah, that pretty much spells it out. I'm afraidd to give birth to a mass of, whatever I gave birth to...

(The duplicate letters are due to the 'butterfly' keyboard from Apple. I hope to get it fixed next week)
 
Last edited:
  • Sad
Reactions: Captain Trips

PinkyMacGodess

Suspended
Mar 7, 2007
10,271
6,228
Midwest America.
We stockpile these kind of bottles, full … for earthquake preparedness…
View attachment 1775682

Every earthquake we've had, I've been in my car. Seriously. They aren't very common, and having missed so many of them is rather ddisappointing. I stopped at a client, and they were looking rather anxious. 'DID YOU FEEL IT?!?!?!!!!' Feel what? 'THE EARTHQUAKE!!! THE BUILDING SHOOK!!!' Uh, WHAT? I made a few comments I had to explain. I seem to miss all of the earthquakes we've ever had. This last one registered as a 3, light 4, so it was 'a thing' here, where we get 1's and 2's. *shrug* I've got a stock of two dozen three litre jugs, JIC... :D:D:D
 

jz0309

Contributor
Sep 25, 2018
11,401
30,088
SoCal
Every earthquake we've had, I've been in my car. Seriously. They aren't very common, and having missed so many of them is rather ddisappointing. I stopped at a client, and they were looking rather anxious. 'DID YOU FEEL IT?!?!?!!!!' Feel what? 'THE EARTHQUAKE!!! THE BUILDING SHOOK!!!' Uh, WHAT? I made a few comments I had to explain. I seem to miss all of the earthquakes we've ever had. This last one registered as a 3, light 4, so it was 'a thing' here, where we get 1's and 2's. *shrug* I've got a stock of two dozen three litre jugs, JIC... :D:D:D
We have earthquakes every day, the vast majority you don’t feel… but it’s a question of WHEN and not IF a big one will hit so you just have to be prepared…
 

deep diver

macrumors 68030
Jan 17, 2008
2,711
4,522
Philadelphia.
I had this idea that I was going to brew my own beer. I bought the 'kit', and was all set to rock the brewing world.

And then, fermentation stopped in a day. I waited the time I was supposed to, and opened up the fermentation tank.

I had about an inch of something between moss and fungus growing on top. I was really surprised it was so thick, and didn't actually smell bad. I dumped it. I had no idea to even try to taste it. I had accumulated over four dozen flip-top Grolsch bottles. I almost cried when I returned them. DOH!

EDIT: Someone actually asked me if I tried it! I'm serious. 'Didd you taste it?' Um, NO!!! ?????? (Would you lick your dog's butt?) I really solidly and whole heartedly passed on the opportunity to 'taste' whatever was in that tank. There was a thick residue on the bottom so someone told me that, well yes indeed it appeared to have exhausted its 'yeast load', and what was left *could* have tasted pretty good. I mean, I was stunned. I was concerned that whatever was in that tank was 'not of this world', and likely to cause instant transmogrification into a species that would want to lick things that people just aren't supposed to lick. I have a rather expensive 'brew kit' that I bought literally just before the pandemic was THE THING, and the yeast went bad, so I bought more and that was in October, so I have performance anxiety. Will I excel at 'brewing' moss and fungus that will end humanity, or can I actually make something drinkable by normal human beings, without ending their lives?

Performance anxiety. Yeah, that pretty much spells it out. I'm afraidd to give birth to a mass of, whatever I gave birth to...

(The duplicate letters are due to the 'butterfly' keyboard from Apple. I hope to get it fixed next week)

I feel really bad to have to tell you this, but...
What you are describing is exactly what was supposed to happen. The material at the top is called krausen and forms as part of the fermentation process. The material at the bottom is a mix of dead yeast, material from the hops, and proteins from the malts. If you bottle properly, that stuff stays behind.

If you bottle condition the beer (naturally carbonating in the bottle rather than artificially carbonating in a keg with carbon dioxide) there will be a thin layer of yeast at the bottom of the bottle. It's supposed to be there, but you have to learn how to pour so that it doesn't end up in the glass..

There are some good books on brewing, and probably some good videos. Stores that sell supplies for fermenting (beer, wine, cheese) sometimes offer classes.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Captain Trips

PinkyMacGodess

Suspended
Mar 7, 2007
10,271
6,228
Midwest America.
I feel really bad to have to tell you this, but...
What you are describing is exactly what was supposed to happen. The material at the top is called krausen and forms as part of the fermentation process. It starts breaking down during the second week of the fermentation. The material at the bottom is a mix of dead yeast, material from the hops, and proteins from the malts. If you bottle properly, that stuff stays behind.

Actually, you should not have seen that stuff at all because you shouldn't open the fermentor until it's time to bottle. Opening the fermentor introduces oxygen which can ruin the batch. If you bottle condition the beer (naturally carbonating in the bottle rather than artificially carbonating in a keg with carbon dioxide) there will be a thin layer of yeast at the bottom of the bottle. It's supposed to be there, but you have to learn how to pour so that it doesn't end up in the glass..

There are some good books on brewing, and probably some good videos. Stores that sell supplies for fermenting (beer, wine, cheese) sometimes offer classes.

I waited to the end of the fermentation cycle. I was surprised that it was so 'funky'.

I was talking to a brew master before I bought the kit, and he said that a thick, and solid, layer of 'stuff' on the top of a fermentation tank isn't exactly bad, but what I described wasn't 'ideal' he said. (Um, okay) He said that I should have taken a sample from the middle of the tank, and looked at it, and smelt it, to see if it was 'usable'. I lauhged, and he said that some of his 'mistakes' in brewing have made the best brews. He said that is possible that I had a great brew at the time, and freaked out at the 'look'. But his partner said that I likely did the world a favor. He said that most of the brews they have had the growths on have been the result of inadequately sterilized equipment, and would have tasted like a steeped sweat sock, and likely made me rather sick. The first guy agreed, but still wished I had spent more time looking at it to see if it was totally spoiled, and not 'usable'?.

They did agree that their first few batches were more miss than hit, and after getting into it more, they stared putting out better brews. One, they said, actually was a huge hit with their friends. Everyone wanted some. Word spread like wildfire, and they tried a second batch, and, according to their friends, missed it... Lightening doesn't always strike twice.

I'll get fresher yeast and possibly grains, and see what I come up with. I have to remember the teachings of my organic chemistry prof when I do it again. He was a stitch. A great man, but he was 'tight'.???
 
  • Like
Reactions: Captain Trips

PinkyMacGodess

Suspended
Mar 7, 2007
10,271
6,228
Midwest America.
We have earthquakes every day, the vast majority you don’t feel… but it’s a question of WHEN and not IF a big one will hit so you just have to be prepared…

A friend of mine who used to live 'int he valley' had a scuba setup in his foyer closet. All ready to go. He told people that if 'The Big One', he wanted to have 'a fighting chance' to survive it. I have to admire his optimism...

I was, I may have mentioned before, staying on the 37th floor of a Frisco hotel, and spent nearly every night lying there trying not to feel the earth moving under me. I looked out the window and wondered what floor on the neighboring building I would crash into, or what floor would crash into us, and why they didn't give us parachutes to survive the big one.???

Good grief, the earth moves for your first time when you are like 8, and you are traumatized for the rest of your life.:rolleyes::cool:
 

deep diver

macrumors 68030
Jan 17, 2008
2,711
4,522
Philadelphia.
I waited to the end of the fermentation cycle. I was surprised that it was so 'funky'.

I was talking to a brew master before I bought the kit, and he said that a thick, and solid, layer of 'stuff' on the top of a fermentation tank isn't exactly bad, but what I described wasn't 'ideal' he said. (Um, okay) He said that I should have taken a sample from the middle of the tank, and looked at it, and smelt it, to see if it was 'usable'. I lauhged, and he said that some of his 'mistakes' in brewing have made the best brews. He said that is possible that I had a great brew at the time, and freaked out at the 'look'. But his partner said that I likely did the world a favor. He said that most of the brews they have had the growths on have been the result of inadequately sterilized equipment, and would have tasted like a steeped sweat sock, and likely made me rather sick. The first guy agreed, but still wished I had spent more time looking at it to see if it was totally spoiled, and not 'usable'?.

They did agree that their first few batches were more miss than hit, and after getting into it more, they stared putting out better brews. One, they said, actually was a huge hit with their friends. Everyone wanted some. Word spread like wildfire, and they tried a second batch, and, according to their friends, missed it... Lightening doesn't always strike twice.

I'll get fresher yeast and possibly grains, and see what I come up with. I have to remember the teachings of my organic chemistry prof when I do it again. He was a stitch. A great man, but he was 'tight'.???

There are some very good recipe kits that contain everything you need except the water. labelpeelers.com is the best distributor around. They are within an hour of the biggest supplier in the country. Everything they sell is fresh.
 

PinkyMacGodess

Suspended
Mar 7, 2007
10,271
6,228
Midwest America.
There are some very good recipe kits that contain everything you need except the water. labelpeelers.com is the best distributor around. They are within an hour of the biggest supplier in the country. Everything they sell is fresh.

I'm not saying what I have wasn't fresh whenn I bought it. I've been consumed by 'life' since I bought it, and wouldn't want to complicate things with 'oldd' yeast.

I did buy a 'yeast starter', but 'life' stalled my attempted use of it and it expired. (By nearly 12 months)

I don't want to end up with something I can't drink. I'd hate to brew a mat of moss and fungus again.
 

deep diver

macrumors 68030
Jan 17, 2008
2,711
4,522
Philadelphia.
I'm not saying what I have wasn't fresh whenn I bought it. I've been consumed by 'life' since I bought it, and wouldn't want to complicate things with 'oldd' yeast.

I did buy a 'yeast starter', but 'life' stalled my attempted use of it and it expired. (By nearly 12 months)

I don't want to end up with something I can't drink. I'd hate to brew a mat of moss and fungus again.
Agreed. I keep all of the grains, hops, and yeast in the freezer until I use them. I've not had any problems after a year.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: PinkyMacGodess

Clix Pix

macrumors Core
Um...... ::clears throat loudly:: this is meant to be a thread for photos...... An awful lot of chitchat and few images seem to be going on in here lately. Do you suppose you could just please move discussions elsewhere and leave more room for the actual purpose of this thread to continue? (To be clear, it's not just the current discussion going on, I've noticed this earlier as well.). Too much discussion interrupts the flow and continuity of this photo association thread. Thanks!
 

mollyc

macrumors G3
Aug 18, 2016
8,067
50,789
To be honest I think the tangents are okay in this thread. It’s a way to get to know each other better and this is a non traditional thread anyway.
 
  • Love
Reactions: deep diver

Clix Pix

macrumors Core
There is plenty of room to start and carry on conversations by developing other discussion threads in the Digital Photography subforum and therefore getting to know each other better, etc., while leaving the actual photographic image threads for their intended purpose: displaying and sharing one's own photographs, whether in the POTD, this thread or some other thread established for image sharing.

The discussion about creating one's own craft beer is indeed interesting and fascinating, and I'm a beer lover from waaaay back, but IMHO it really is interrupting the continuity of what is meant to be a spontaneous, quickly-moving, fast-paced association of one photo following a theme established by another photo, etc., etc.
 
Last edited:
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.