Okay, whew! Did you manage to get it all out, and off your chest, Carl? I hope so. I came to understand how you felt last thread, but in fairness, and being as objective as I can, this time I think you definitely did the overstepping. I agree in principle with your philosophy of openness to all expressions of photographic art, but we don't need anyone to become the thought police here either. If valdore didn't take offense (and perhaps he wasn't offended at all, and maybe even has some kind of relationship with Clix pix) then it's not your call there. Your "reply" is passionate, makes some great points, but is inflammatory in it's tone of defiance and anger. If you're still angry about the earlier exchange (last thread) then you should be honest with yourself about that, because as a third-party observer I didn't feel Clix pix's comment was anywhere the offensive comment you took it for. You basically declared war. Why? This was really a pleasant place, let's keep it that way. Among friends we need to have a little give-and-take, and not fly off the handle so quickly. Discourse, without personal attacks should be encouraged, but let's keep in mind that the purpose of this thread is to show our photos to each other, and we should expect comments. There is no guarantee that all comments will be supportive, but for the most part I have seen no basis for the any "line-in-the-sand" declarations, and the opposing camps that would imply. We're all artists here. You, me, valdore, clix pix, Doylem, srf4real, etc. etc. Some artist's work I like more than others, but I think most of us welcome all offerings. Those that don't are free to say so, and are also free to opt out if the thread doesn't do it for them. But I see very little reason to get all worked up to the degree you have. But of course, you have that right, and I respect your feelings. But in this case I think you have made a mistake. That's all. No offense intended, Carl.