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Cheese&Apple

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Moon shot from the other night. Going to add a bit of commentary that I wouldn't normally share (because images should speak for themselves). Took this with a Sony a7rII and Nikon 200-500mm lens. Only mentioning this because I was able to get a sharper image than I have in the past with my D810. I'm liking the Sony for many reasons, but this shot was a very pleasant surprise.

For those interested in moon photography, the full moon is often the first thing one wants to shoot. In my experience, it actually turns out to be perhaps the least interesting phase of the moon photographically. A less than full moon has shadows at the edges that bring out the surface details and add texture. A perfectly full moon is devoid of texture and ends up being kind of "ho-hum", even if shot with a long lens that can theoretically resolve some detail on the moon's surface.

Some tips I would offer:

1. Shoot on a tripod and do everything in your power to eliminate vibrations. Mirror up if you are shooting with a DSLR that has a mirror. Remote release or timer release to minimize shake at the time you trip the shutter. Especially at longer focal lengths, *any* vibration can detract from the sharpness of the final image.

2. Manual exposure. If you are trying to isolate the moon, it requires something close to a daylight exposure. A good starting point (depending on the phase of the moon) is 1/250 sec @ f/5.6 and ISO 100. Auto exposure is going to get confused by all the black in the frame (unless you are shooting in LV zoomed in--which I recommend) and overexpose the frame. Especially at longer focal lengths, the moon actually moves relatively quickly across the frame. Slower shutter speeds will result in blur. I try to avoid shooting the moon at shutter speeds slower than 1/250 sec. For many lenses (though not all) f/5.6 is where sharpness peaks. At f/8 (or smaller) diffraction starts to degrade center sharpness. Since your goal with a moon shot is to get every last drop of sharpness you can out of your lens/body combo, consider shooting at f/5.6 (or whatever aperture is optimal for your lens).

3. Focus manually with LV (assuming this is an option on your camera) zoomed in maximally. Intuitive to think that setting focus on infinity will get the moon in proper focus, but in my experience this isn't the case. May look fine uncropped, but to get the moon to fill the frame you are going to have to crop severely and infinity focus isn't always optimal focus.

4. Shoot RAW. Moon shots straight out of the camera are never optimal. You are going to need to perform more radical adjustments in post than you are used to (mostly with bumping contrast and to a lesser extent sharpening). Contrast changes that would make you cringe for a "normal" shot are actually going to make the moon look more pleasing and "normal".

5. Seriously consider converting to B&W if you are trying to fill the frame with the moon and aren't shooting it as part of a night landscape. B&W tolerates contrast changes that may start to look strange in color. For me at least, a moon filling the frame is about texture, tone, and details--color doesn't add anything and can actually detract.

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Good information about moon shots kallisti. Personally, I like the moon in colour as I think colour helps to accentuate the fine details.

Try processing with Nik Color Efex Pro using tonal contrast. It's a good way to emphasize detail if you don't over do it.

~ Peter

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anotherscotsman

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I think I prefer the other one. More natural look works better to my mind.
Know what you mean AFB and I'm inclined to agree I was looking for a more "illustration" type effect. Begs the question should photographs be realistic and obviously recognisable as photographs or should post be to the extent that they can be mistaken for other art forms?

I like this view and picture better. The blue of the water and sky, the white of the statues, the mountains in the background, it definitely works for me.

We here in Baltimore do have a thing for crabs.

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I must admit the best crab cakes I've ever had were in Baltimore around Inner Harbour. Agree with you on the two views of the pool.
 
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AZhappyjack

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I like this view and picture better. The blue of the water and sky, the white of the statues, the mountains in the background, it definitely works for me.

Thanks. I like this one better too. The other one overlooks the Pacific Ocean, and as I recall, we were restricted in how close to the pool and how far around the pool area we could go.
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We here in Baltimore do have a thing for crabs.

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Nice. I don't think I've ever seen a crab on a front door before.
 
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Apple fanboy

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Know what you mean AFB and I'm inclined to agree I was looking for a more "illustration" type effect. Begs the question should photographs be realistic and obviously recognisable as photographs or should post be to the extent that they can be mistaken for other art forms?
Truth is both can work. Just depends on the photo and personal preference.
 
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anotherscotsman

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I like this view and picture better. The blue of the water and sky, the white of the statues, the mountains in the background, it definitely works for me.

We here in Baltimore do have a thing for crabs.

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I must admit the best crab cakes I've ever had were in Baltimore around Inner Harbour.
Truth is both can work. Just depends on the photo and personal preference.

Too reasonable! :) I was hoping for bit of controversy...
 
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dotmanuk

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long time lurker here guys....

first time in a long time that i have managed to get out with my camera... not the greatest photo but it means a lot to me seeing my eldest 2 girls reading to each other...

shot on my trusty old nikon d40 with my tamron 60mm macro
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kenoh

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I must admit the best crab cakes I've ever had were in Baltimore around Inner Harbour.


Too reasonable! :) I was hoping for bit of controversy...

Staying out of this one... my recent post processing on skies, while more dramatic are a tad exagerated. However I think you have an idea of the image you want and make it that. Is that not art?
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long time lurker here guys....

first time in a long time that i have managed to get out with my camera... not the greatest photo but it means a lot to me seeing my eldest 2 girls reading to each other...

shot on my trusty old nikon d40 with my tamron 60mm macro View attachment 642121

We were all lurkers at somepoint but we stepped out of the shadow. Welcome to the mad place. Post some pics, hang out a while and enjoy the humour...
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Good information about moon shots kallisti. Personally, I like the moon in colour as I think colour helps to accentuate the fine details.

Try processing with Nik Color Efex Pro using tonal contrast. It's a good way to emphasize detail if you don't over do it.

~ Peter

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Wow incedible. You two are stunning me with these shots!
 

kallisti

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Good information about moon shots kallisti. Personally, I like the moon in colour as I think colour helps to accentuate the fine details.

Try processing with Nik Color Efex Pro using tonal contrast. It's a good way to emphasize detail if you don't over do it.

~ Peter

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Very, very nice shot! Point well taken, though I personally still prefer B&W. Was this taken with a telephoto lens or a telescope?
 

johaen8

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Wow incedible. You two are stunning me with these shots!
Very, very nice shot! Point well taken, though I personally still prefer B&W. Was this taken with a telephoto lens or a telescope?

I did one too. *feels left out* ;)
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caught some noctilucent clouds this morning ... 24 mm, 800 ISO, f/5.0, 2 second shutter

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Beautiful! I don't think I've ever seen noctilucent clouds, although I've read about them before.
 
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kenoh

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I did one too. *feels left out* ;)
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Beautiful! I don't think I've ever seen noctilucent clouds, although I've read about them before.

Whoops... Sorry missed it. Went back though to find it. Worth looking for!

I really like images if the moon. Issue is that it leads to wanting to shoot deep space objects right? And for that, I have to start another expensive hobby... So I am going to continue to adore these shots...

Very nice and a good choice of phase.
 
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