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fryfrkhlly

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Greetings all,

Welcome to the New iPhone 16 Pro / iPhone 16 Pro Max photos up thread.

Peaople in Australia and New Zealand will be receiving their brand new iPhone 16 Pro's by now!


Please post all your photos taken from iPhone 16 Pro / iPhone 16 Pro Max here. Are you ready? 🙌🏻
 

Dick Whitman

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Anyone else genuinely bummed about the fact that the new phones are even more aggressive in terms of how they process images? I’ve seen a lot of side-by-side comparisons of photos taken from the 16 Pro and 15 Pro and the former are even flatter and more washed out because Apple continues to lift shadows and drop highlights. I don’t understand why. Is it to make these phones increasingly more like a digital camera where stock images inevitably require some form of editing? Unless I’m shooting in RAW, that’s not something I want to have to constantly deal with for images taken with my phone. I’m neither sold on photographic styles as using these forces you to shoot in HEIF.
 

L92

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Anyone else genuinely bummed about the fact that the new phones are even more aggressive in terms of how they process images?
Yes. Altough I don't mind HEIF. I will be creating my own more-shadow style, just as I did with my current i13P. Tbh even though there are some hardware improvements since the i13P, I barely see any actual improvement (other than a little extra resolution) of the final image, unless if you shoot 48mp ProRaw. The default is too flat and too HDR for my taste (it has been like that for a while). My biggest issue is the excessive sharpening and overused clarity. Styles don't fix that, only RAW.
 
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soundweave

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I am curious to see consumer photos to see if they have reduced over-sharpening. Since it seems you can mostly fix the color / shadow depth with the new photographic styles so that's now covered.

Although there's a few other things going on with default photos, like aggressive HDR edge glow and separating people and aggressively cranking the exposure on them.

I wonder if these things will be fixed by photographic styles?

One reviewer (geekerwan on youtube) mentioned something about sharpening improvement in an upcoming camera test. Another reviewer (ben's gadget reviews) said with photographic styles they could achieve a look like the Leica color science which would be nice.
 
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Halmahc

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There seems to be some conflict regarding how people want the iPhone to process photos. On one hand, especially when I see YouTubers comparing the iPhone with other flagship Android devices, they often complain that the iPhone isn’t “HDR” enough. It doesn’t brighten the shadows or bring down the highlights as much as the competition. They use that to argue that the iPhone has the “inferior” camera. To them, if the photo isn’t flat—with brighter shadows and toned-down highlights—its “dynamic range is weaker.” Another frequent complaint is that “it’s not sharp enough.” These criticisms don’t just come from non-photography experts who "review" these phones, but from professional photographers as well.

On the other hand, some people—especially those on online forums like this one, as well as some professional photographers—hold the opposite view. They think the iPhone brightens the shadows and brings down the highlights too much. “It’s over-sharpened,” “it’s flat,” “it’s too HDR-y,” and “it’s over-processed” are some of their complaints.

So, what should Apple do now? They’ve provided Photographic Styles, yet many still shoot with the default settings and complain. How can they satisfy everyone, considering the fact that the main target demographic for these phones are ordinary users who just want photos that “look good”?
 

neuropsychguy

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There seems to be some conflict regarding how people want the iPhone to process photos. On one hand, especially when I see YouTubers comparing the iPhone with other flagship Android devices, they often complain that the iPhone isn’t “HDR” enough. It doesn’t brighten the shadows or bring down the highlights as much as the competition. They use that to argue that the iPhone has the “inferior” camera. To them, if the photo isn’t flat—with brighter shadows and toned-down highlights—its “dynamic range is weaker.” Another frequent complaint is that “it’s not sharp enough.” These criticisms don’t just come from non-photography experts who "review" these phones, but from professional photographers as well.

On the other hand, some people—especially those on online forums like this one, as well as some professional photographers—hold the opposite view. They think the iPhone brightens the shadows and brings down the highlights too much. “It’s over-sharpened,” “it’s flat,” “it’s too HDR-y,” and “it’s over-processed” are some of their complaints.

So, what should Apple do now? They’ve provided Photographic Styles, yet many still shoot with the default settings and complain. How can they satisfy everyone, considering the fact that the main target demographic for these phones are ordinary users who just want photos that “look good”?
People who want more control can shoot in ProRAW. I found some sample images from a photographer who seems very pleased with what the phone can capture: https://www.austinmann.com/trek/iphone-16-pro-camera-review-kenya
 
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soundweave

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People who want more control can shoot in ProRAW. I found some sample images from a photographer who seems very pleased with what the phone can capture: https://www.austinmann.com/trek/iphone-16-pro-camera-review-kenya
ProRAW is extremely cumbersome to deal with though. I just want to shoot photos straight into my photo library at 2MB without looking overbaked. ProRAW look straight to compressed size would be perfect.

I agree with the other poster that Apple is stuck between some reviewers and users who just want as bright/"sharp" as possible, and enthusiasts who prefer a more subtle or realistic look (although average users will probably be pretty upset with some of the results of high sharpening lol). That being said, all they need is an option. They've solved it for the HDR flat/color look with new photographic styles, now they just need a soft/sharp adjustment.
 

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So i received the 16 Pro Max today and i'm trying the new ultrawide. But it saves the images as 12 megapixel pictures. Not 24 like the main camera. The only way i can get the 48 mp files is by shooting RAW. Maybe im missing a setting.

EDIT: Never mind, i set it to HEIF Max and then it produces 48 mp images. So i have to toggle that icon when conditions are good enough to shoot the bigger images.
 
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TL24

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According to this review from The Verge, the new tonemapping control called “Tone” allows you to reduce this HDR effect when turned down. I am curious to test this out and see what the best setting is. Also, can this setting be defaulted for all photos?

https://www.theverge.com/24247538/apple-iphone-16-pro-review
To me, that's the BIGGEST possible change Apple could have done, now we can fine tune how we want our photos to look 24/7 instead of having to do post-edits.

Can't wait to pick up my 16 Pro in a few hours once it's ready at Best Buy 👍
 
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midkay

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According to this review from The Verge, the new tonemapping control called “Tone” allows you to reduce this HDR effect when turned down. I am curious to test this out and see what the best setting is. Also, can this setting be defaulted for all photos?
Yes! I'm very excited about this. Not only do you get a much greater range of control over the tone and colors of an image, and the ability to make different presets, but you can choose a preset to use directly in the Camera app while shooting, and can just leave it set on your favorite preset, so you don't have to go manually edit your photos and apply the style after taking it. And you can fully adjust (or remove) it after the fact. I think this is going to be a game-changer for those of us who would like to dial in a particular appearance for our photos. Just a few minutes of tweaking upfront and every photo you take thereafter can automatically take on that style.
 
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Just a quick skate session with my girlfriend. Usually do lots of video but I wanted to get some stills today. I’m loving the styles customization!

How my 16PM did: 26 minutes of mostly photo, 88F outside, shade. 100% to 89%, she got warm but not blistering, my 15PM would have been hotter.
 

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Just a quick skate session with my girlfriend. Usually do lots of video but I wanted to get some stills today. I’m loving the styles customization!

How my 16PM did: 26 minutes of mostly photo, 88F outside, shade. 100% to 89%, she got warm but not blistering, my 15PM would have been hotter.
Great shots!!!
 

AM2354

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I would love to get a professional photographer to suggest the best camera settings to shoot photos on my iPhone 16 Max.
 
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