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slitherjef

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Ship date estimate for 11/27 for the 1k i5 model

Yeah I keep poking into the slate store front time to time but haven't committed yet. Kind of waiting on a review but something tells me this thing is going to be another Google niche (tm pending o_O) device. As most Google tablets are...
 

mi7chy

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ChromeOS does multi-monitor support like a pro.

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sracer

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Ship date estimate for 11/27 for the 1k i5 model

Yeah I keep poking into the slate store front time to time but haven't committed yet. Kind of waiting on a review but something tells me this thing is going to be another Google niche (tm pending o_O) device. As most Google tablets are...
I can understand your hesitation. Google's track record regarding tablets hasn't been so good, IMO. But I DO think this time it will be different... because it is Chrome OS-based and not Android-based. And the changes introduced with Chrome OS 70 make the tablet experience (and tablet mode of 2-in-1s) much more consistent and useful.

The Slate is going to stick around. But that Pixelbook at $699 will not. ;)
 

dgdosen

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I saw the Slate in a Google Hardware store in Chicago - I wasn't blown away by it, but I was able to download and load VS Code via Linux... Pretty easy. I didn't check to see what version I was using - but I'm hesitant to think a Y chip is a good choice for wanting to have a mac alternative.

It seems like the best device would be a Dell XPS 13 as a chromebook.. I wonder why Dell insists on using Inspiron for their offerings
 
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slitherjef

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I got tired of waiting for this thing and opted to take advantage of Google's 300 dollars off and pick up the base model of the pixel book which has the same configuration as the 1k slate I've been looking at.

Maybe next year Google will put the slate on sale and I can grab it and pass the book along to someone else. Will see how well I like it. More likely would be a pixel 4 since I'm probably skipping the 3... Unless I break my XL 2
 

AustinIllini

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I got tired of waiting for this thing and opted to take advantage of Google's 300 dollars off and pick up the base model of the pixel book which has the same configuration as the 1k slate I've been looking at.

Maybe next year Google will put the slate on sale and I can grab it and pass the book along to someone else. Will see how well I like it. More likely would be a pixel 4 since I'm probably skipping the 3... Unless I break my XL 2
Do the giant bezels bother you?
 

Wildo6882

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Do the giant bezels bother you?

A little but not as bad as asymmetric or off center designs which make things off balance if that makes sense.

The nearly 50% price difference from the similar specked slate also helps negate the bezels.

:)

The bezels on a laptop like the PixelBook wouldn't bother me one bit. I've been debating between the Book and Slate, but I think the price difference really makes the Book the MUCH better buy, right now. I doubt I'll notice much, if any speed difference.
 
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sracer

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The bezels on a laptop like the PixelBook wouldn't bother me one bit. I've been debating between the Book and Slate, but I think the price difference really makes the Book the MUCH better buy, right now. I doubt I'll notice much, if any speed difference.
Yes, the PB is the much better deal, especially at $300 off MSRP... that makes it $500 cheaper than the PS with comparable hardware. You could almost buy 2 PBs for the price.

But if you're going to use either as a tablet on a regular basis, then the PS will serve that purpose better. If you can deal with a bit more heft of the PB (as a tablet), it is well worth it IMO.

Bezel size is a contrived "thing" to get people to be dissatisfied with what they currently have.
 

mi7chy

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One week impression...

One standout feature is the side mounted fingerprint scanner. That solves the front only (harder to activate pulling out of pocket) or back only (harder to activate when on table or car dash mounted) fingerprint scanner issues on phones. Hopefully, we'll see this more on future phones.

 
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Michael Goff

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One week impression...

One standout feature is the side mounted fingerprint scanner. That solves the front only (harder to activate pulling out of pocket) or back only (harder to activate when on table or car dash mounted) fingerprint scanner issues on phones. Hopefully, we'll see this more on future phones.


"Why use a tablet as opposed to just a phone" seemed like a weird idea to me. A phone is great, but focusing on even the biggest screen for a movie or surfing the web for hours hurts my eyes a bit.
 

sracer

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"Why use a tablet as opposed to just a phone" seemed like a weird idea to me. A phone is great, but focusing on even the biggest screen for a movie or surfing the web for hours hurts my eyes a bit.
Probably because he (Robbie Payne) is like me and doesn't watch full-length movies on a phone and doesn't surf the web for hours on a phone. If one is primarily at a desk, conference room, or coffee shop where a laptop can be used, why use a phone or tablet for those tasks?
 
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Probably because he (Robbie Payne) is like me and doesn't watch full-length movies on a phone and doesn't surf the web for hours on a phone. If one is primarily at a desk, conference room, or coffee shop where a laptop can be used, why use a phone or tablet for those tasks?

I guess that makes sense, but I've always found a tablet to have a fun factor that laptops don't have. Even my Pixelbook sometimes gives me the "I should be doing something productive" feeling.
 

slitherjef

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Why do I get the feeling that this (and probably pixel book) is basically the Google chrome version of Windows 8.1 (and 10) in the since the os don't know what it wants, the whole tablet mode / desktop fiasco?

I'm watching some reviews of this puppy right now.
 

sracer

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Why do I get the feeling that this (and probably pixel book) is basically the Google chrome version of Windows 8.1 (and 10) in the since the os don't know what it wants, the whole tablet mode / desktop fiasco?

I'm watching some reviews of this puppy right now.
I don't know why you are getting that feeling, but I am enjoying the improvements made in Chrome OS 70 to make convertible 2-in-1 devices feel more "native" in either mode. I've owned Surface devices in the past, and there is no comparison.
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slitherjef

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I don't know why you are getting that feeling, but I am enjoying the improvements made in Chrome OS 70 to make convertible 2-in-1 devices feel more "native" in either mode. I've owned Surface devices in the past, and there is no comparison.
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I didn't mean for my post to come out as negative as it might have been, I was talking more about the duality that windows was like 2 operating systems in one device.

Now that I think about it a bit more, maybe that is not the case as the windows 8.1 example.

After watching a few vids, chrome os seems to have it's own thing going on. :)

It's been a long time since I've used chrome os. I was a little bummed I didn't see the slate nor pixel book at my local best buy.
 
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Michael Goff

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Why do I get the feeling that this (and probably pixel book) is basically the Google chrome version of Windows 8.1 (and 10) in the since the os don't know what it wants, the whole tablet mode / desktop fiasco?

I'm watching some reviews of this puppy right now.

I don't know. ChromeOS knows what it wants to be. It's a desktop browser with Android apps, and other Linux apps if you want. The only problem is that it has some animation jank. But that's a problem Google has fought with every piece of software they make. The base is strong, though.
 

Breaking Good

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Why do I get the feeling that this (and probably pixel book) is basically the Google chrome version of Windows 8.1 (and 10) in the since the os don't know what it wants, the whole tablet mode / desktop fiasco?

I'm watching some reviews of this puppy right now.

I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of the Windows 8.0 debacle. I think Microsoft knew exactly the direction they wanted to take Windows. The problem was that in their hubris under Balmer they tried to force a tablet UI onto their entire customer base and most of them didn't want it at that time.

I've been looking at the Pixel Slate and while I think it is an incredible device it falls short in several areas that are important to me. First, I don't like the fact that it is only Bluetooth 4.2 when the current standard is 5.0. A year ago I could have understood this decision. But even Apple's iPhones and the Apple Watch are at 5.0 now. It is a state of the art device and it should have the latest standards.

The second area is the lack of an LTE data model. In my use case I want something that can extend the capability of my Android smartphone. Apple has LTE models of the iPad and even Microsoft now as an LTE capable model of the Surface Pro. I'm having a very hard time understanding why Google didn't make a model that was Google Fi capable with an eSIM.
 
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slitherjef

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I must respectfully disagree with your assessment of the Windows 8.0 debacle. I think Microsoft knew exactly the direction they wanted to take Windows. The problem was that in their hubris under Balmer they tried to force a tablet UI onto their entire customer base and most of them didn't want it at that time.

I've been looking at the Pixel Slate and while I think it is an incredible device it falls short in several areas that are important to me. First, I don't like the fact that it is only Bluetooth 4.2 when the current standard is 5.0. A year ago I could have understood this decision. But even Apple's iPhones and the Apple Watch are at 5.0 now. It is a state of the art device and it should have the latest standards.

The second area is the lack of an LTE data model. In my use case I want something that can extend the capability of my Android smartphone. Apple has LTE models of the iPad and even Microsoft now as an LTE capable model of the Surface Pro. I'm having a very hard time understanding why Google didn't make a model that was Google Fi capable with an eSIM.

No disrespect taken, actually I think you summed it up better then what I was trying to say and just couldn't get things out right. :)

I am kind of glad I opted for the pixel book (if FedEx ever gets it to me that is! o_O) over the slate. I agree, fi (can share with my pixel XL 2 via tethering) or an open LTE sim slot. Maybe they decided against it due to high costs already
 

AustinIllini

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Sounds like this device is kind of a disaster...

There's not really a justifiable reason to get this over the Pixelbook or the iPad Pro.
 

Cryates

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Just came here to post that, and just watched it. Absolutely brutal. I get this is the entry model as he states, but my lord the side-by-side performance comparison against the iPad Pro is flat-out embarrassing.

This is why I love Marques though. It’s no secret he is a fan of Google, and more specifically a huge fan of the Pixel, but he is able to see things completely objectively and give an honest opinion, even if it’s brutal. And he has an undeniably big voice in the tech world. It wouldn’t shock me if Google communicates with him and he is able to facilitate some impactful change moving forward.
 
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