PLEASE....Make Horizontal Video Recording as the standard setting for the camera app in iOS 9 MANY

[stevemiller]

Devils advocate here, if you don't want to watch portrait videos with black bars, you as a viewer could rotate your phone to portrait, too.

As phones become increasingly popular as end-consumption devices for video, portrait becomes more legitimized, because that's how we tend to hold the devices.

If you're complaining about the artistic framing merits, you're already fighting a losing battle if the shooter doesn't even have the savvy to know when they are filming portrait.

Jus sayin...

 

[Nermal]

Devils advocate here, if you don't want to watch portrait videos with black bars, you as a viewer could rotate your phone to portrait, too.

OK, I've rotated my phone to portrait and the video is still pillarboxed on my computer screen.

Seriously, I don't know whether I'm "most people", but I watch videos mainly on my computer and hardly ever on my phone.

 

[C DM]

Devils advocate here, if you don't want to watch portrait videos with black bars, you as a viewer could rotate your phone to portrait, too.

As phones become increasingly popular as end-consumption devices for video, portrait becomes more legitimized, because that's how we tend to hold the devices.

If you're complaining about the artistic framing merits, you're already fighting a losing battle if the shooter doesn't even have the savvy to know when they are filming portrait.

Jus sayin...

When I watch videos on my phone, no matter how I was holding the phone before, I turn my phone sideways as I am used to watch videos in landscape aspect as I do on a computer screen or television screen or a movie screen. Now if the video is shot vertically I end up turning it back into portrait aspect as it would appear much smaller otherwise, but that's not what I expect from a video as that isn't what I expect from one on any other screen.

 

[Hexiii]

I agree with the OP! Instead of the orientation deciding which way a video is shot, it should be a setting. So if dumb people, like most people, take video in portrait mode it is played back in landscape no matter what.

Did you actually read the replies?

 

[andyp350]

This is entirely down to people not being idiot as its down on the orientation of your phone. If Apple forced a landscape video and the person using it held the phone in portrait the video will be messed up too.

 

[GreyOS]

Tip for those unaware.

Apple's built in player lets you zoom in on videos with a black border by double tapping on it. It will fill the space. So vertical videos that are delivered in a horizontal format, with black bars on the sides, can be zoomed in whilst in portrait mode to fill the screen.

 

[Polaroid]

It just quicker for some people to record in portrait, if they want to catch a moment. What fi they have rotation lock on, then they have to change that setting then rotate it, which means they could miss that moment they wanted.

Its not that big a deal, as I said, it amateur video makers that do it, just watch more professional stuff lol.

 

[0000757]

I agree with the OP! Instead of the orientation deciding which way a video is shot, it should be a setting. So if dumb people, like most people, take video in portrait mode it is played back in landscape no matter what.

...and then the video would be sideways.

Tip for those unaware.

Apple's built in player lets you zoom in on videos with a black border by double tapping on it. It will fill the space. So vertical videos that are delivered in a horizontal format, with black bars on the sides, can be zoomed in whilst in portrait mode to fill the screen.

and by doing that it crops a HUGE amount of the video, so it's not a solution.

It just quicker for some people to record in portrait, if they want to catch a moment. What fi they have rotation lock on, then they have to change that setting then rotate it, which means they could miss that moment they wanted.

Its not that big a deal, as I said, it amateur video makers that do it, just watch more professional stuff lol.

This. I have some vertical videos, and it's because it's faster and easier to quickly capture a moment. My VVs are usually no more than 10 or 11 seconds, and one of the main reasons is because if I want to catch my friend doing something stupid, or I want to film myself, when I go to the camera it zooms in compared to the photo mode. It's easier to just keep my subject within view via vertical than it is to go to horizontal and move positions to recapture what I'm looking for. Vertical is easier to hold as well. If I'm actually trying to film something good I'll go to horizontal but for the quick captures I use portrait.

 

[GreyOS]

and by doing that it crops a HUGE amount of the video, so it's not a solution.

Er no...

I'm talking about portrait videos that have been formatted as horizontal (say on YouTube.)

When you view these in portrait orientation, they occupy a central band in the middle (as normal horizontal video would), but with black bars either side.So you have a video with black all around it.

Now when you double tap to zoom it fills the whole screen- nothing is lost.

Just a tip, which helps viewing on iPhone from certain sources. To that end it is a solution, thank you.

Attached some examples before and after zoom. It's clever enough to ignore the logo RT added in the black, too.

 

[WB2Colorado]

How about minding your own business instead of telling people to use their own devices the way YOU think they should be used?

 

[C DM]

How about minding your own business instead of telling people to use their own devices the way YOU think they should be used?

In some cases (not necessarily this case) people don't actually know any better and might need help (some of whom might actually even appreciate it).

 

[Armen]

People are tired of watching amazing videos that turn out to be vertical.
I am sure 99 percent of the people in here will agree but it's something that Apple should fix for once and for all. So many important videos released on the internet and half the video is cut because it's vertical.

People need to fixed. They don't know how to hold their damn phones when recording a video.

 

[TETENAL]

There are legitimate reasons to record videos in portrait orientation. One is when you film something vertical (like people) from close proximity and they wouldn't fit into the image otherwise. And watching videos in portrait orientation isn't an issue at all when watching on a phone or tablet. Some people don't even have PCs any more. We live in a "post PC" world after all.

 

[MEJHarrison]

The image sensor in the camera isn't square, it's a rectangle that's in the same orientation as the phone (ie hold the phone upright and it'll give you an upright image).

The only thing you could do in software is crop it, but then you'd lose even more of the image.

EDIT
You can see it here, that green rectangle is the image sensor.

Yes, the sensor isn't square and you bring up a good point (for photos). But what you're forgetting is an 8MP photo (on my iPhone) is 3264x2448. A 1080p video is 1920x1080. So for video, you could theoretically orient the sensor in either direction and still pull 1920x1080 off the sensor.

With that said, anything that forces me to shoot video in landscape or pops up a warning is absolutely unacceptable for me. It might not be common to shoot video in portrait, but that's for ME to decide, not Apple or "most users". If people do it wrong due to their own ignorance, that's on them. Don't make everyone else suffer for it.

 

[Mercifull]

I was at a Take That concert on Friday (don't judge me, I was taking the missus and was well rewarded) and there was a woman in front of us that spent the whole concert staring at her mobile phone trying to film the show. Not only did she miss whole swathes of the concert because she was watching it all through a tiny screen (despite being in really good view seats) but she was doing it VERTICALLY which means the resulting footage is completely unwatchable on a big screen.

 

[Jsameds]

Yes, the sensor isn't square and you bring up a good point (for photos). But what you're forgetting is an 8MP photo (on my iPhone) is 3264x2448. A 1080p video is 1920x1080. So for video, you could theoretically orient the sensor in either direction and still pull 1920x1080 off the sensor.

With that said, anything that forces me to shoot video in landscape or pops up a warning is absolutely unacceptable for me. It might not be common to shoot video in portrait, but that's for ME to decide, not Apple or "most users". If people do it wrong due to their own ignorance, that's on them. Don't make everyone else suffer for it.

I was with you until the last paragraph.

There is no real reason at all to shoot vertical video and the video world as a whole would benefit from forced horizontal shooting on cameraphones, so I'm all for it. Maybe a lock that's set to be on by default that you can switch off in the settings. That will at least force the majority of users to film horizontally but the option is still there, buried away so most won't find it, if you wish to film vertically.

I think that would eliminate 99% of vertical video, which is a good thing.

 

[Jsameds]

I was at a Take That concert on Friday (don't judge me, I was taking the missus and was well rewarded) and there was a woman in front of us that spent the whole concert staring at her mobile phone trying to film the show. Not only did she miss whole swathes of the concert because she was watching it all through a tiny screen (despite being in really good view seats) but she was doing it VERTICALLY which means the resulting footage is completely unwatchable on a big screen.

Haha what an idiot!

 

[179202]

It's not 'wrong'. It's a choice. Sometimes you'd have to move too far back to get something in shot if your phone was horizontal. Really, if this is your biggest problem then life is damn good for you...

 

[johannnn]

I was at a Take That concert on Friday (don't judge me, I was taking the missus and was well rewarded) and there was a woman in front of us that spent the whole concert staring at her mobile phone trying to film the show. Not only did she miss whole swathes of the concert because she was watching it all through a tiny screen (despite being in really good view seats) but she was doing it VERTICALLY which means the resulting footage is completely unwatchable on a big screen.

Welcome to 2015 where big screens are just not as popular as they used to be. Many people, including myself, shoot videos that never see another screen other than iPhone and iPad.

 

[yaboyac29]

Stop vertical videos.

Now if only we could get this video to go as viral as the bendgate nonsense.

Nvm won't happen. Society is dumb as **** already.

 

[C DM]

It's not 'wrong'. It's a choice. Sometimes you'd have to move too far back to get something in shot if your phone was horizontal. Really, if this is your biggest problem then life is damn good for you...

Sometimes some choices can be wrong.

 

[Paradoxally]

Devils advocate here, if you don't want to watch portrait videos with black bars, you as a viewer could rotate your phone to portrait, too.

As phones become increasingly popular as end-consumption devices for video, portrait becomes more legitimized, because that's how we tend to hold the devices.

If you're complaining about the artistic framing merits, you're already fighting a losing battle if the shooter doesn't even have the savvy to know when they are filming portrait.

Jus sayin...

Do you watch TV shows in portrait?
Do you watch movies in portrait?

No, right?

Then why should you watch YouTube in portrait? YouTube should ban these videos from even being uploaded.

 

[kybldmstr]

lol if Apple made this happen people would still hold their phone's vertical and then all videos from these people would look sideways

 

[Mercifull]

Welcome to 2015 where big screens are just not as popular as they used to be. Many people, including myself, shoot videos that never see another screen other than iPhone and iPad.

It also looks crap on a 5 inch screen. In this scenario all the stage decoration, effects, backing dancers are all cropped off and instead the screen is filled of the backs of peoples heads.

Edit: Also... this particular concert was broadcast in cinemas around the world and will be the show they make the official DVD out of so if she wanted a video record of the experience she could have pre-ordered that.

 

[mizxco]

Now when you double tap to zoom it fills the whole screen- nothing is lost.

Attached some examples before and after zoom. It's clever enough to ignore the logo RT added in the black, too.

Crops huge amount of video, you're losing a lot of quality. It may not seem like it but you're not getting 1080p.