Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Why not have disk mode? So the only way to read a pdf or Word file is to email it to yourself?

I think the point is, if you are on the go, you can read your e-mail and all attachments.

If you have G-mail and you send it to anybody you'll be able to read it.

The question I wondered about is TXT files in general. Can I put a text file on my iPhone like I could on my iPOD?

Very curious to see if that is possible.

Damn you Thursday!!! Why are you so long??!! :D :D
 
The disk mode is what has caused a number of organizations to ban the iPod (you might copy the company secrets onto it and carry it out :eek:). Maybe this is a nod to them (although I doubt it).

If there's no disk mode you can't mod the phone - ( think iTV for example, sorry, no Linux either!), manually install applications, ring tones etc etc.
 
Apple truely are stretching the definition of smartphone.

iPhone is no smartphone.

Man, the trolls are really coming out of the woodwork. Virtually every review says the iPhone kicks the @ss out of every other smart phone on the market. The only real complaint they have is AT&T's EDGE network.
 
Man, the trolls are really coming out of the woodwork. Virtually every review says the iPhone kicks the @ss out of every other smart phone on the market. The only real complaint they have is AT&T's EDGE network.

Oh, another person who can't take criticism of the iPhone, and branding people as trolling. Please tell me why you don't like iPhone criticism?


The abilities that make smartphones what they are, are just, frankly missing on the iPhone. The word 'smartphone' has changed some what since the original definition, too. When the word 'smartphone' was first used back in 2000ish, your $50 phone has those abilities today. The definition of 'smartphone' has evolved.
 
If you are going down this route there is also the issue with the camera. Plus the iPhone has wireless/bluetooth so may be able to connect to the network and download that way.

Or e-mail. Or thumbdrive. If that was Apple's reasoning for not including disk mode, its a pretty dumb one

Man, the trolls are really coming out of the woodwork. Virtually every review says the iPhone kicks the @ss out of every other smart phone on the market. The only real complaint they have is AT&T's EDGE network.
So those who don't think the iPhone is perfect in every way are trolls? :rolleyes:
 
Popularity yes. Sales no. Sorry again. $500-$600 puts it out of the reach of many many many iPod owners.

The original iPod was very expensive too, but over time prices came down and the Apple introduced a number of models at a wide range of price points. The iPhone will probably do the same over the next 5 years.

(note: This is not unique to the iPod/iPhone categories. Most high-tech markets (e.g., the PC market or the DVD player market) have followed similar trajectories.)
 
I think its already been mentioned a few times that the SIM tray is accessible.

Search google for:
SIM tray iphone

There are plenty of references to confirm for yourself that:
(1) there is a sim tray
(2) is it accessible

( The tray is at the top of the iPhone )

Searches yield nada as far as first had accounts. Sure some people have seen something on the top but that is speculation. One link points to MacRumors "Official" set of Specs and that notes a SIM tray

But at Apple: http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

no word.

Whatever though, that door probably is a SIM tray my point is no first hand accounts have actually confirmed this i.e. I pulled out the SIM tray...

Personally I don't care, just playing devils advocate.
 
For a Macbook, you could easily purchase a USB cellular air card, but I can definitely see why it would be nice not to pay for 2 data plans.
Where are you going to put an air card in a MacBook? It doesn't have any expansion slots. :confused:

Apple truely are stretching the definition of smartphone.

iPhone is no smartphone.
FWIW, if you Google "site://www.apple.com/iphone smartphone", the phrase "smartphone" appears once (in a press release where they're talking about the Nokia N95, etc).

Where are you seeing Apple advertise the iPhone as a smartphone? If anything (I guess because of the stigma associated with current smartphones), they seem to be staying away from associating that term with the iPhone.
 
There is nothing wrong with pointing out flaws or potential areas for improvements in the iPhone. It helps everyone to make a purchasing decision now, and it helps clarify what the community expects of Apple in the future.

There is not, nor will there ever be, the *perfect* device. I think trying to bash each others phones or service is silly. Pointing out issues that Apple should address either with updated software or with updated hardware down the line is quite productive.
 
Where are you going to put an air card in a MacBook? It doesn't have any expansion slots. :confused:


FWIW, if you Google "site://www.apple.com/iphone smartphone", the phrase "smartphone" appears once (in a press release where they're talking about the Nokia N95, etc).

Where are you seeing Apple advertise the iPhone as a smartphone? If anything (I guess because of the stigma associated with current smartphones), they seem to be staying away from associating that term with the iPhone.

He said a USB aircard ;)

And Apple advertised it as a smartphone when they put up that comparison chart comparing it to the BlackJack, BlackBerry, etc. If it wasn't a smartphone, they would've compared it with other non-smartphones
 
Where are you going to put an air card in a MacBook? It doesn't have any expansion slots. :confused:


FWIW, if you Google "site://www.apple.com/iphone smartphone", the phrase "smartphone" appears once (in a press release where they're talking about the Nokia N95, etc).

Where are you seeing Apple advertise the iPhone as a smartphone? If anything (I guess because of the stigma associated with current smartphones), they seem to be staying away from associating that term with the iPhone.

I hope so.. but in MWSF, SJ was directly comparing iPhone to other smartphones.
 
LOL.

You think that criticism is due to people inability to buy the iPhone? Rather than concrete reasons to why the iPhone is lacking, given the very high price?

I wouldn't buy a $600 phone that is -
- lacking in so many basic features
- still locked to one network
- no 3rd party applications

Why would I want to replace my current phone, which in my opinion , smokes the iPhone?

The thing that bothers me the most is that for a portable communication device that also has a full OS, the capabilities that should be easy are (so far) missing. In particular, it seems to have no document management capability. Let's say I download a document from the WEB, where does it go and how can I access it? The OS on the phone looks like it has some Leopard features. Why can't there be a document manager similar to iTunes , except instead of music it manages documents. When you turn the device to landscape, it changes to a coverflow interface just like in Leopard.

Here is what I was envisioning, tap on a document and it brings up a selection that allows you to email, print, fax, upload, bluetooth transfer, or whatever else. That would be useful... While I'm at it, being able to send a fax would be very useful. I know it is low-tech but a couple times a month, I need to fax something. Being able to do this with my phone (it is a communication device, isn't it??) whould be ideal.

I know that these things can be implemented in software but I have to ask, what have they been doing the past few years (Steve said at Macworld that this has been in development for a while). As others have said, these things are basic functionality.

Don't get me wrong I am still considering getting one and hoping that software updates will bring the iPhone to it's full potiental but the more I hear about what it cannot do, I'm puzzled.

Thanks for letting me vent...

-ron-
 
Why does it matter? What good is a SIM tray if its locked to AT&T?

So I can take it out and put it in my stupid (scroll for 10 min to get to a "b" name as every phone number and email address is a different entry) Razr so that I can hang it from a tree when I garden...???
 
The thing that bothers me the most is that for a portable communication device that also has a full OS, the capabilities that should be easy are (so far) missing. In particular, it seems to have no document management capability. Let's say I download a document from the WEB, where does it go and how can I access it? The OS on the phone looks like it has some Leopard features. Why can't there be a document manager similar to iTunes , except instead of music it manages documents. When you turn the device to landscape, it changes to a coverflow interface just like in Leopard.

Here is what I was envisioning, tap on a document and it brings up a selection that allows you to email, print, fax, upload, bluetooth transfer, or whatever else. That would be useful... While I'm at it, being able to send a fax would be very useful. I know it is low-tech but a couple times a month, I need to fax something. Being able to do this with my phone (it is a communication device, isn't it??) whould be ideal.

I know that these things can be implemented in software but I have to ask, what have they been doing the past few years (Steve said at Macworld that this has been in development for a while). As others have said, these things are basic functionality.

Don't get me wrong I am still considering getting one and hoping that software updates will bring the iPhone to it's full potiental but the more I hear about what it cannot do, I'm puzzled.

Thanks for letting me vent...

-ron-

Gradual feature rollout bothers me. It bothered me with the Apple TV and it's bothering me with this thing. I know they are rolling out features to either future proof their products or to position the on the right development path. But I don't think they really take into consideration what the end user really wants. I mean look at the Apple TV. People want playlist for videos on the device but what did Apple give us? Youtube. I could care less about watching blurry Youtube videos on Apple TV as well as I could care less about Youtube on a phone. Give me my productivity tools and give them to me now. If Apple twisted ATT's arm about the pricing I'm sure they could have gotten the bluetooth modem functionality in there as well. Hell, let me pay a little more to have it but don't not offer it to me when it can be done. This phone in all actuallity does just a little bit less then a Sidekick 3 does (Sidekick cannot be used as a wireless modem but does have AOL, MSN & Yahoo messengers installed by default) abeit having a significantly Prettier user GUI. There's been no innovation here except for the plan's pricing but even that's debatable. i'm gonna buy one and keep my unlocked razor as a modem.:apple:
 
I'm looking at iTunes on my iMac, in coverflow, and - I kid you not - I catch myself starting to reach with a finger to the iMac screen to browse through my music.

I've had too much iPhone, methinks....
 
So I can take it out and put it in my stupid (scroll for 10 min to get to a "b" name as every phone number and email address is a different entry) Razr so that I can hang it from a tree when I garden...???

Umm....you do know that on a RAZR you can change a setting so that each name only appears once, and you can click on the right side of the "disc" to move through all the various phone numbers (home, business, mobile, etc.), right?
 
Umm....you do know that on a RAZR you can change a setting so that each name only appears once, and you can click on the right side of the "disc" to move through all the various phone numbers (home, business, mobile, etc.), right?

Ummmm - No, didn't know that. Maybe I have an older version. Maybe I'm stupid (not the phone). I'll check it out. Thanks.
 
David Pogue is mostly a Apple xxx kisser, he is kindest to apple among all non-apple sponsored commentators.

I know its been a long post ago, but I have to agree (in a good way) Pogue Loves his apples but still tells it like it is. If it wasn't for him, I might not have switched back to mac all those years ago.(well yeah, I probably still would have, but he helped speed it along)
 
I saw a post on here about making the home screen switch to a phone when turned to landscape mode. BEST IDEA I'VE HEARD!!!

Here's what I'm thinking:
You turn to landscape mode and the center section becomes the keypad (press one number for speed dialing just like on every other phone). Maybe throw in a button for voice dialing (less important). On the left you have a section with your most recently dialed calls, with most recently received calls on the other side.

If Apple implemented this, suddenly almost every call you want to make is a single button push away. If it's going to be a phone, make it work for actual phone use!!!



That's not a bad idea, but why not just have the 'home' button toggle between the home page and a phone dialing pad? I mean if it's on the home page already, the button probably does nothing. Then you wouldn't have to worry about accidentally going to the dialing page just because you rotated your phone (I think ultimately, the menus should rotate with the phone just like Safari and movies do..maybe in a software update).
 
You apparentely don't know how handy it is, when in an area without WiFi, to be able to tether your phone to your laptop and access the internet. Another thing apple dropped the ball on :rolleyes:

Exactly! This (if I didn't have a damned Motorola Q already supplied by corporate and I wanted/needed an iPhone) would be a deal breaker. Hell, that's why I got bluetooth on my macbook pro!
 
Enough of these critic reviews. They are all envious because they know that the iPhone is truly a revolutionary phone and they just try to make it look bad. They want one but can't get one.

I'd say more like, "Enough of these fanboy comments." They're one-sided and irritating. Go away. Some of us want true unbiased reviews, not Apple's unofficial PR department blathering on about nothing.

benlee said:
Some people are really picky but they will still end up buying the phone. People need to realize that there is not way to make a perfect product. especially rev. 1. This is apple's first attempt at a phone.

Then we have the fabled APOLOGISTS, whom are JUST as ANNOYING.

It's like just ADMIT IT, Apple dropped the ball on this one in several areas. There is NO excuse for the lack of such BASIC things as cut/paste, ability to use as a modem with BlueTooth, lack of keyboard in landscape mode except in Safari, lack of disk mode, etc. *EVEN* in VERSION 1. Those are things that will KILL sales (bad for them and bad for stockholders, but the modem thing will be good for AT&T, apparently) and so Apple should be smarter than that.

More to the point, there's an old adage that says you only get one chance to make a good impression and sadly that's not something Apple is very good at.

But apparently we're not allowed to point that out without someone ranting on about how we're negative sissy poos and Apple will rule the world you just wait and see mister! (sticks nose up in air with shoulders crossed).

To EVERYONE ELSE, please keep speaking your minds (honest opinions positive or negative). I want to know about real features and the lack thereof, not PR BS from kiddiez/fanboyz.

Oh wait, we have another great point:

marksman said:
Why did all the iPhone haters pick this particular thread to all jump on?

Why is it in AppleWorld that anyone who has anything to say that is not all postive is a 'hater'? I find the use of a such a term in such a non-applicable way to be offensive. I'm not a 'hater'. I'm a REALIST and I want BOTH sides of the story. Imagine the news if they only covered happy/fluffy things. It'd be like one of those movies where the government controls the media and you never hear about what is REALLY going on ('The Running Man' with Arnold comes to mind for some reason).

As much as I like OSX, I don't want to trade Bill Gates for Steve Jobs as Master of the Universe either. OSX is what Linux SHOULD be, but it's still a closed system (even more so than Windows because the hardware is closed as well) and that aspect is BAD BAD BAD because it means if Apple ever displaces M$, we'll just be trading one master for another. So I use OSX and M$ and HOPE that Linux will one day be truly functional/useful if they could ever agree on a flipping unified standard instead of spending 90% of their time rewriting the wheel all the time.

Yet another one:

dannyallen34 said:
There shouldn't be posts here about how much better other phones are. It's about discussing the iPhone. Discussing the problems is good, but posts bashing and talking about how Sidekicks are so much more functional should be deleted IMO.

I think YOU should be deleted! How's that? You sound like a Communist. Of course people are going to compare phones when talking about a new one. that's the WHOLE POINT. But fanboys think only Apple matters. Only Apple exists. The rest of the mean old world should go away so the rest of us can worship Steve!

I can't emphasize enough how SICKENING this atmosphere is in the Land of Mac since I've started following the Mac. Why we can't have a topic of conversation about something without it devolving into groupie talk is just beyond me. This isn't a Led Zeppelin concert backstage waiting to 'meet' the band. Believe it or not, other OSes do exist and aren't 'all' bad. Sometimes good ideas come from other people than Steve Jobs. I honestly get the feeling there are a large number of Mac users that ONLY use Apple software! (Because everything non-Apple sucks!) Man, Steve must LOVE you to death! You're making him rich beyond his wildest dreams!

jasonbuzz said:
I think Apple left out some features on purpose just to show how easy adding new functionality is going to be....another great marketing move if you ask me.

LOL. That's the best one yet. Forget first impressions. Wait until everyone's written the phone off THEN fix it when no one is looking or listening anymore. And that's a GOOD marketing approach? Priceless.

AppleFre@k said:
You better hope the iPhone is successful, at least for Apple's sake. As I understand it, Steve Jobs is practically betting the entire company on the success of iPhone. They have something like $20 billion invested in it.

It's good to know Steve has all his loyal computer users in mind when he bets the company on gadgets. It really makes OSX feel so...I dunno...'stable' as a platform. I'm glad the new Macs can run Windows also so at least I have something to fall back on if Stevie manages to wipe the company out betting it on loads of gadgets. What's next? OSX on a 'smart' pencil?

Ooh Ooh! I can't wait for the iPencil to come out! Where's the new Macs at? Oh we can't talk about those because we bet the farm on the iPencil and it needs to be hyped to death!
 
I think Apple left out some features on purpose just to show how easy adding new functionality is going to be....another great marketing move if you ask me.

yeah, and Henry Ford should've left the brakes off the Model T to show how easy adding them in later would be :rolleyes:
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.