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Poll - How will Apple update the Mac Pro?
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Apple users don't.
If you want to compete in the workstation space, yes.
Why are you so anti-choice? Apple is the largest company in the world. They could easily out-innovate everyone in the workstation space if they gave 2 ***** about it.
Today I'm doing 3D rendering look development using a BOXX system with 2x 22 Core Xeons (E5-2699v4). When the 32 core v5 Xeons come out in a few months, I will upgrade to a system with 2 of those. I need all the speed i can get.
Until about 2012 Mac Pro was a reasonable option for me as they were generally competitive (if not bleeding edge). I had many a Mac Pro. The 2013 12 core I have sitting here collecting dust will likely be the last.
I would ask the OP to add another option, "Apple is trolling us."
If
released a New nMP w/ those specs I will eat my hat and be happy to do it...Unfortunately, everything points to a platform shift, aka Apple 4.0
Yes we'll see a new Intel based (i)Mac this year that may revile the 12-core D700 2013 nMP (Late 2015 revision)
But after that, forget about anything exciting from
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When
ends nMP sales (perhaps this year), it may fetch A LOT (more then new cost) on the used market.
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Daniel, I see you put a lot of faith in the iMac (Pro). Do you have any solid info or is it just your gut feeling?
I'm kinda still hoping for the new nMP with SKL-W, Vega and TB3 to be honest, that would sort of explain the wait and would also make it worth it.
I'm kinda still hoping for the new nMP with SKL-W, Vega and TB3 to be honest, that would sort of explain the wait and would also make it worth it.
Really? You think workstations should be judged solely on looks?
I agree the design is interesting but workstations are best judged by their performance and usefulness, and by that standard, "best on the market right now" is not only debatable, it is demonstrably false.
I love the design too, and for what I need it's a great machine, whisper quiet.
But others will always have other needs of course, and the nMP won't be the perfect solution for them.
And less so if TB3 doesn't cut it for them as far as expansion goes.
Still, the design is also part of what you want on a high end machine. To me it also matters, at least.
But others will always have other needs of course, and the nMP won't be the perfect solution for them.
And less so if TB3 doesn't cut it for them as far as expansion goes.
Still, the design is also part of what you want on a high end machine. To me it also matters, at least.
'Beautiful'? What do you find beautiful about a small canister with hundreds of cables sticking out of it running to a hodgepodge of expansion boxes (of all sizes, shapes and colours)?
In the "box" design won't you have hundreds of cables sticking out of it? Oh I forgot...you'll hide that box under the desk
It looks like my workplace made the right decision to completely dump Apple products this year. HP Z640 and Z840 systems are on the way. I've mentioned in other posts that we'll be unloading MacBook Pros, iMacs, and iPhones as they come off warranty throughout 2017 and buying non-Apple replacements.
As far as FCPX goes; Apple focused FCPX on solo editors, and it runs OK on iMacs. No reason for the average FCPX user to need more.
Mac Mini will be history, possibly to be replaced by an iOS 'Mac' type Apple TV, perfect for home users who want gaming, web, email, TV all on the big screen TV in their living room.
iMacs are the end of the line for 'Mac' desktops. They crossover well with Macbook customers and are essentially non upgradable and disposable the way Apple intends all their products to be from now on.
Apple may continue to sell the Mac Pro for the near future, but it's functionally an obsolete product. Aside from the slim chance of a modest spec bump at some point in the future I strongly doubt we'll see a new Mac Pro ever again.
It's the end of an era, Apple just doesn't want you to know it until well after it's happened.
As far as FCPX goes; Apple focused FCPX on solo editors, and it runs OK on iMacs. No reason for the average FCPX user to need more.
Mac Mini will be history, possibly to be replaced by an iOS 'Mac' type Apple TV, perfect for home users who want gaming, web, email, TV all on the big screen TV in their living room.
iMacs are the end of the line for 'Mac' desktops. They crossover well with Macbook customers and are essentially non upgradable and disposable the way Apple intends all their products to be from now on.
Apple may continue to sell the Mac Pro for the near future, but it's functionally an obsolete product. Aside from the slim chance of a modest spec bump at some point in the future I strongly doubt we'll see a new Mac Pro ever again.
It's the end of an era, Apple just doesn't want you to know it until well after it's happened.
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I think this point is often missed and it's the main reason why we still have the current form factor.
Those needing more power are more than likely using different NON Apple software.
Exactly. Third party companies have filled the vacuum Apple created as they dumb down, or discontinue, 'Pro' software.
Apple continues to lock down the hardware too, essentially making their products disposable gadgets, rather than traditional computers that owners can customize to fit their needs with additional third party hardware. Buy an Apple, you get what you bought and that's all it will ever be.
If making the device fit your needs is only about external peripherals and third party software, which also work (sometimes better) with non Apple products, what reason is there to buy Apple products anymore?
Apple abandoned us, so we've moved on. It will nice to have the power of multiple Nvidia GTX1080 in our workstations.
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Another thought has just jumped into my mind. Is it just my memory playing tricks on me, or were we all complaining about the cMP's being useless, outdated and obsolete tech that couldn't keep up with PCs back in 2012 or so (just before the nMP was released)?
I seem to recall that being a big reason for me moving from my 1,1 cMP to a maxed-out 27" iMac at the time (instead of a 5,1 cMP).
I seem to recall that being a big reason for me moving from my 1,1 cMP to a maxed-out 27" iMac at the time (instead of a 5,1 cMP).
Complaining about Apple's offerings is indeed a national pastime. Even in the tower format, Apple's offerings have never been what I would call best-in-class in terms of slots, memory capacity etc. But they were reasonably competitive from the 2007-2011ish period. The real complaints started (and were warranted) when Apple skipped they Sandy Bridge gen Xeons while they were presumably making their ill-fated nMP design migration.
It is also not the seventies, when you were able to sell a lot of computers thanks to one killer app, and FCPX is not VisiCalc.
RGDS,
Back in 2011, I held out for a full year waiting for a Thunderbolt-equipped Mac Pro. When they finally released the 2012 "update" (with it's obvious lack of USB 3 and Thunderbolt), I was sooo pissed. I couldn't put off the purchase any longer and had to get another "Firewire" Mac Pro. .....But at 1/2 the price of a cylinder-equivalent MP.... BOY do I love this machine now!
Although I expect (and voted) Apple will eventually update the cylinder MP, I really wish they would just do a simple cheese grater mac and take our damn money!
Minimal R&D needed, and pro users get a serviceable machine they can update as needed. Easy win/win for all.
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Although I expect (and voted) Apple will eventually update the cylinder MP, I really wish they would just do a simple cheese grater mac and take our damn money!
Minimal R&D needed, and pro users get a serviceable machine they can update as needed. Easy win/win for all.//
I think the comments probably shed some light on that.
But, it's not really important in the grand scheme of things. We all have our thoughts on what might happen. But in the end, our opinions will not be considered in Apple's eventual decision.
It might mean more if you could blame particular voters for whatever happens. But none of us has any influence on Apple's decision. Except perhaps if enough of us just stop buying anything from Apple until they realize that customers can influence their profit margin.
At this point, numerous people have switched to giving their money to the competition.
But many are loyal to Apple, and will buy the latest product regardless of whether it is current technology or even the best value.
So, until enough people have voted where it counts (wallet), nothing will change.
Online polls are more for curiosity and entertainment. They don't change anything.
Myself, if there isn't a Mac Pro that fits my needs, I'm not buying it. And I'm not buying temporary solutions either like iMac or outdated mini's either.
I'll wait, or buy something from a competitor.
When enough people do the same, then Apple might realize that it's time to keep products up to date with current technology if they expect to be paid a premium price.
As long as people will buy whatever they offer, Apple will continue to do the minimum they can get away with.
Lol im more entertained by who voted for what just for sake of it. Hahaha
I voted "It's dead, RIP"
Not that I want that to be true. But I believe the signs point that direction.
Personally, I miss the way Apple used to fill various segments.
You used to be able to buy at your exact level of need. Now the gaps are huge. And then there's even gaps above the highest buying level.
So, now you buy below your needs, or above your needs, or in many cases there isn't even an option that can perform your needs.
It's an unfortunate situation for people who prefer Apple.
I remember buying my PowerPC G3 233-DT with A/V.
I wanted to work with video, and I considered the software I'd be using, the video source, and found a Mac with the right mix of hardware. It had composite video inputs, DVD, and a G3 processor.
Lots of other options were available. But that one hit exactly on my intended usage.
But, today, if my needs were very specific, I'd have to buy higher than my needs, or possibly find that nothing Apple had would fit my needs.
It's harder today to just say I need exactly these features with nothing more and nothing less, and then go buy a Mac. Most likely close to impossible, depending on your needs.