After that trolling website update, its a no brainer that tim was bsing when he said that desktop is important.
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Poll - How will Apple update the Mac Pro?
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Haven't snickered this hard all day...... thank you!
On topic, it's hard to figure out the new Apple lately, if I were to hazard a guess, an incremental update to the trashcan with suitable CannonLake Xeons, or perhaps AMD Ryzen processors, possibly with Optane storage and memory, but it's entirely possible they'll eventually abandon the Pro market altogether. The amount of profit coming from the entire Mac segment of their business is a paltry 10% give or take, so you can imagine how little of that comes from the MacPro itself.
A sad prospect for loyal Pro users really.
No idea about FCPX. That's when Apple created the mass exodus of pro editors to other software.
I voted: It's dead, RIP
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Apple CEO Tim Cook reassured investors that Apple is still very much focused on its professional customers and has plans to "do more" in the pro area.
tee hee hee. We'll see, we'll see if the king of BS is TC. ... or not.
An optimist might think that Apple has big plans for the mac and these plans are taking a long time to come to fruition for any of ten thousand possible reasons.
A pessimist might think that TC is intentionally driving the Mac into the ground & Apple sees the iPad, iPhone & iOS as its future.
Either way you see it, few people are happy with the direction they've taken their computers… regardless of the update frequency.
R.I.P. was my vote and as far as Tim doing more, since next to nothing is being done now, anything could be considered more and the rest is left to Tim's interpretation...
Apple upgrades 2013 Mac Pros with more cores & faster GPUs
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/04/04/apple-upgrades-2013-mac-pros-with-more-cores-faster-gpus
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/04/04/apple-upgrades-2013-mac-pros-with-more-cores-faster-gpus
Not really.
Some Apple execs admitted that the MP6,1 missed the mark, and said some fuzzy things about a redesign.
And changed the pricing for the existing line (no new tech) from "outrageously expensive" to merely "expensive". "Throw them a bone."
It should have been pretty clear from the interview that nothing has really been decided about the mMP. "Modular" could mean anything from the an updated cMP to a wild LEGO-like snap together system.
Or "modular" could mean that they're going to move the GPUs from PCIe 3.0 x16 connections to bandwidth starved T-Bolt connections to down-clocked weak ATI GPUs in external cabinets.
This reminds me of the parable of the blind men and the elephant. Some are reading very vague descriptions of the mMP, and applying their hopes to those descriptions.
For those putting off Hacks or putting off moving to Windows/Linux - do you really want the status quo for maybe two years, and then maybe be totally underwhelmed by what the amigos create?
Unlikely.
' ...
I ask him what Apple’s philosophy on external GPUs is.
“I think they have a place,” he says, and leaves it at that. ...'
https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/04/apple-pushes-the-reset-button-on-the-mac-pro/
I think Apple may grudgingly enable this, but it seems that this is not a hot issue for them. Once the GPUs on are on the other side of the TB bus and sitting in standard PCI-e physical slots, that is going to hard to keep a AMD ( ATI hasn't existed in years ) GPU only solution. Or even a "build for Macs" solution.
Apple's macOS GPU stack is in enough turmoil as it is with leaving OpenGL/OpenCL/ open standards for Metal anyway. I doubt they want to stack detachable GPUs to the workload.
Modularity here appears to be the ability for Apple to put a new GPU system of their own into a container that they themselves designed. It would be also easier for them to build custom cards at a low resource consuming rate and on a regular basis if just had more flexibility of putting card and cooling into a module slot. No coupling to CPU, industrial design group , Thunderbolt updates , etc. etc. Just a GPU subsystem of their own limited resourced design.
No nvidia option leaves out a major portion of the pro user base who use CUDA for rendering / processing.
what CUDA based rendering software for macOS are you talking about this major portion of pros to be using?
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edit- *rhetorical
now an box like this
http://www.cronologic.de/products/pcie/
or just stacked with an full pci-e link to each module
What CUDA enabled software could be made available on the Mac if Apple give people the freedom of choosing their own brand of GPU, is a better question to ask.
For the CG/mograph/animation/film/post production crowd. Some of these are also used in architecture/previs.
Octane, Resolve, Nuke, Creative Suite, Redshift, Cycles 4D. The next release of Arnold Render will be GPU accelerated. V-Ray is developing a GPU version of its rendering software.
Almost all of those apps are available in OSX.
Dual GTX 1080 cards are awesome. I have had two since they came out and they can do max settings 4K gaming. In video editing render times where reduced significantly when moving from two GTX 970 cards.
It is mind boggling to me that Apple isn't supporting the GTX 10X0 series cards in macOS.
Not really Ender, when you ponder which product they sell to which you could add the 1080? In their world Hackintoshes should be hunted down and slaughtered for the unnatural abominations they are. The classic Mac Pro tower is like the old man at the barbershop they hope kicks off soon because they're tired of hearing him yap about how great things were back in his day. And eGPU? ha. They hate that almost as much.
Perhaps the future Mac Pro...perhaps.
Of course by then we could be up to the 1280 or whatever Nvidia decides to call it in two years.
That about sounds like their attitude with Android.
I love your analogy even if it is depressingly true.
The nMPc can't arrive soon enough.
Dead... Keep in mind, Apple NO LONGER has the technical expertise to develop a Pro Desktop. That expertise went out the door when Bob Mansfield "retired", but wait.... he came back.. sorta... oh... Now he works on "future projects" directly under Tim Cook - which really is just a snow job for being "shielded" after being shellacked in a battle with the "untouchable" design false god, Jony Ive. But rank and file engineers don't get that protection from the ego maniac Ive - so they languish (the state of ALL Apple Macs has descended to terrible since the rise of the Trash Can, which is also a sign that the organization is damaged). Ive's ego won and the damage is probably irreparable.
Mansfield's downward then ???? 'trajectory' at Apple directly corresponds to the rise of the Trash Can, which is just an embodiment of Jony Ive's ego. But we all knew "Design above all else" was going to fail for heat reasons, and we were RIGHT.
Jony Ive's ego killed the Mac. No, Apple cannot innovate any more - Ive Killed that, and Phil Shriller must have a massive case of BUTT HURT after getting the now admittedly failed Trash Can inserted via his "Can't innovate anymore..." comment - OUCH!!!
Mansfield's downward then ???? 'trajectory' at Apple directly corresponds to the rise of the Trash Can, which is just an embodiment of Jony Ive's ego. But we all knew "Design above all else" was going to fail for heat reasons, and we were RIGHT.
Jony Ive's ego killed the Mac. No, Apple cannot innovate any more - Ive Killed that, and Phil Shriller must have a massive case of BUTT HURT after getting the now admittedly failed Trash Can inserted via his "Can't innovate anymore..." comment - OUCH!!!
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