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ErikCLDR

macrumors 68000
Jan 14, 2007
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Those are really nice. I want one and thinking about getting one. What is the MPG on them??? I am missing my old 4x4....

Yea, Rovers are awesome. Right now we have my 00 Disco and an 07 Range Rover Sport HSE (Mom's). We might get an LR3 to replace our Touareg but gas prices are high. We've also had an 03 Discovery, a Range Rover Classic (1990ish), and a 1963 Series IIa. They are great cars, in my opinion the best 4x4s out there. Very unique looking, well equipped and the visibility is outstanding.

The gas mileage sucks and they do take premium (otherwise carbon builds up and starts breaking sensors and fuel injectors). My 2000 (4.0L V8) Discovery gets about 14.6 average, 16.6 highway. My Dad's 2003 (4.6L v8) got about the same but had a bit more pickup. My moms 4.4L V8 RR sport gets 14 city, highway, and on average.

Another thing to really consider is the repair costs. Parts are expensive, there aren't a lot of dealers (might have to drive far), not a lot of independent mechanics like working on them, and they are pretty rare cars. I just got front brake pads and rotors done for $700. A spare key- $270. If you go to the dealer for an oil change they're going to charge $75-$135 depending on the vehicle. Basically you can expect parts to cost 2-3x more than a domestic car and labor is usually $80-$90/hr. I should also mention that Land Rovers I believe are ranked #1 or #2 for worst reliability. Also if you're buying new factor in that they lose 1/2 their value in 2 years.

If you have any questions PM me.
 

ill0gical0ne

macrumors 6502
Jun 17, 2007
262
1
bought it when I was almost 16...

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'99 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
 

shfreelance

macrumors 6502a
May 24, 2008
685
1
Eustis, FL
Yea, Rovers are awesome. Right now we have my 00 Disco and an 07 Range Rover Sport HSE (Mom's). We might get an LR3 to replace our Touareg but gas prices are high. We've also had an 03 Discovery, a Range Rover Classic (1990ish), and a 1963 Series IIa. They are great cars, in my opinion the best 4x4s out there. Very unique looking, well equipped and the visibility is outstanding.

The gas mileage sucks and they do take premium (otherwise carbon builds up and starts breaking sensors and fuel injectors). My 2000 (4.0L V8) Discovery gets about 14.6 average, 16.6 highway. My Dad's 2003 (4.6L v8) got about the same but had a bit more pickup. My moms 4.4L V8 RR sport gets 14 city, highway, and on average.

Another thing to really consider is the repair costs. Parts are expensive, there aren't a lot of dealers (might have to drive far), not a lot of independent mechanics like working on them, and they are pretty rare cars. I just got front brake pads and rotors done for $700. A spare key- $270. If you go to the dealer for an oil change they're going to charge $75-$135 depending on the vehicle. Basically you can expect parts to cost 2-3x more than a domestic car and labor is usually $80-$90/hr. I should also mention that Land Rovers I believe are ranked #1 or #2 for worst reliability. Also if you're buying new factor in that they lose 1/2 their value in 2 years.

If you have any questions PM me.

Well I always put premium in my car since it takes it. I fond it only cost me about $3-4 more per tank and it last longer. Does seem to get pretty bad on gas, but it weighs allot and is a 4x4. Seems like it get worse then a Tahoe and Jeep Wrangler (My other choices). I am also not buying new. I am looking at around 1999-2003. Let someone else take the hit. I never thought the maintenance would be that high, since Ford owns them. I guess they don't use allot of crappy Ford parts. I also was told the Land Rovers are really reliable.... Guess not. Well I may have to reconsider the Land Rover.... Hmmm. Well if I do get it. I will be changing the Oil allot myself.

~Steven

PS: I drive a 1997 Acura TL 3.2L and a 1963 Ford Falcon Convertible. I had a 1990 Ford Bronco. The Acura is really my first car and the Falcon I inherited. The Bronco, just drove it around the trails. I was fixing it up for my first car. But then it just would not run and we tore the entire thing apart and..... there was no saving it. I never sunk it in the mud either. Just did light 4x4. I did a hell of lot worse in a Jeep.....

Edit: Nice Eclipse ^
 

FadeToBlack

macrumors 68000
Original poster
Apr 27, 2005
1,843
5
Accoville, WV
Took me awhile to find it. This was actually my brother's car. He blew the motor, so my dad put a new V6 in it with a Holley 4 barrel carburetor and Offenhauser intake which caused us to not be able to shut the hood! Ended up with a '84 mustang black hoodscoop on it and black louvers on the rear glass. Guess I'm showing my age here huh? Man, I miss that car.

A lot of people don't like the Mustang II's design, but I really do. My neighbor had one that he painted flat black with black wheels with a polished lip. It looked good, considering he painted it with spray paint. :p

I just really like the shape of those cars. It's too bad they were slow. They still look awesome, though. :cool:
 

redwarrior

macrumors 603
Apr 7, 2008
5,573
4
in the Dawg house
A lot of people don't like the Mustang II's design, but I really do. My neighbor had one that he painted flat black with black wheels with a polished lip. It looked good, considering he painted it with spray paint. :p

I just really like the shape of those cars. It's too bad they were slow. They still look awesome, though. :cool:
We put an awesome V6 in mine, but had to change the transmission and rear wheel size to lower the rpms a bit. It would haul ass. I almost outran my brother's '65, but I got scared at 120 mph and shut it down! The rear end in those cars was very light, so it was really easy to lose control. Made it easy to do donuts though (back when gas was an afterthought!).:cool:
 

Melrose

Suspended
Dec 12, 2007
7,806
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@ill0gical: Those are the cool looking ones - the new ones look so much like 'girly' cars if you know what I mean. The body type you've got there looked a bit more aggressive and 'means business'. Nice car!
 

smokeyrabbit

macrumors 6502
May 19, 2005
327
0
Escape from New England
I also was told the Land Rovers are really reliable.... Guess not. Well I may have to reconsider the Land Rover.... Hmmm. Well if I do get it. I will be changing the Oil allot myself.

~Steven

LR's are super easy to work on yourself. They are durable, but not reliable. If you can't handle things not working consistently, then don't get one out of warranty. I have found extended warranties to be good values on Land Rovers. I have owned a 94 Disco I, a 69 Series IIa 88" Bugeye, a 98 50th Anniv. Range Rover, a 94 Defender 90, and now an 04 Disco II. Never paid more than $15,000 for any of them, except the D90, which I sold for the same price as I got it for a year later. I'd never pay $700 for brakes and rotors, I'd pay $200 and do it myself. Unfortunately they are designed by the British, so things like rotors require you to remove the entire freaking hub. Land Rover engineers seem to derive perverse pleasure by taking a seemingly simple task and turning it into a demented monster, eg. any electrical system.
 

PowerFullMac

macrumors 601
Oct 16, 2006
4,000
2
LR's are super easy to work on yourself. They are durable, but not reliable. If you can't handle things not working consistently, then don't get one out of warranty. I have found extended warranties to be good values on Land Rovers. I have owned a 94 Disco I, a 69 Series IIa 88" Bugeye, a 98 50th Anniv. Range Rover, a 94 Defender 90, and now an 04 Disco II. Never paid more than $15,000 for any of them, except the D90, which I sold for the same price as I got it for a year later. I'd never pay $700 for brakes and rotors, I'd pay $200 and do it myself. Unfortunately they are designed by the British, so things like rotors require you to remove the entire freaking hub. Land Rover engineers seem to derive perverse pleasure by taking a seemingly simple task and turning it into a demented monster, eg. any electrical system.

Im confused, first you say they are easy to work on yourself then you say that that the engineers make things complicated on it... :confused:
 

smokeyrabbit

macrumors 6502
May 19, 2005
327
0
Escape from New England
Im confused, first you say they are easy to work on yourself then you say that that the engineers make things complicated on it... :confused:

They are easy to work on - you don't need many special tools, and every single part simply unbolts; however, the design is 'unique' in some aspects. Sometimes it takes more labor than you'd expect, and that's why some repairs cost much more than other vehicles.
 

PowerFullMac

macrumors 601
Oct 16, 2006
4,000
2
They are easy to work on - you don't need many special tools, and every single part simply unbolts; however, the design is 'unique' in some aspects. Sometimes it takes more labor than you'd expect, and that's why some repairs cost much more than other vehicles.

Ah, ok then.
 

KatmanDu

macrumors member
May 16, 2007
39
0
NE Georgia
1973 Oldsmobile Delta 88 station wagon. The family truckster when my sisters and I were kids; it's seen many a french fry and lego block lost under the seats. All of my sisters learned to drive in it, as did I when the time came. It was 100% a car of the ultra-cheap gas era; weighing in at 3 tons with an Olds Rocket 8 455 V8 and 4-bbl carb, it got about 10 mpg on a good day. It certainly wasn't a sex symbol, but it was nigh indestructible- just the thing to give to a testosterone laden teen with juvenile delinquent friends. Many a mailbox met it's end under the steel bumper of Bertha, and I learned more than I ever wanted to know about four-wheel drifts and countersteering. However, bald tires, rain, anger, and poor driving led to it destroying two parked cars, a cement birdbath, and a tree one afternoon. I had plans on pulling and rebuilding the 455 engine and dropping it in a 70's Cutlass convertible that never came to fruition after the wreck and it was sold for scrap.

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FadeToBlack

macrumors 68000
Original poster
Apr 27, 2005
1,843
5
Accoville, WV
We put an awesome V6 in mine, but had to change the transmission and rear wheel size to lower the rpms a bit. It would haul ass. I almost outran my brother's '65, but I got scared at 120 mph and shut it down! The rear end in those cars was very light, so it was really easy to lose control. Made it easy to do donuts though (back when gas was an afterthought!).:cool:

The stock engines in them were slow. :p

I believe all the top-line V8 could do was like 0-60 in about 9.0 and the 1/4 in like 17.0 or so. I have a Motor Trend magazine solely devoted to the history of the Mustang that I bought back when Ford introduced the '94 model. I was only 10 years old, but at the time, that was my dream car. We went and test drove one at a dealership and they were really cool about it. My Dad told them that he had no intention of buying, but they let us drive it anyway and we got it up to about 110 or so and smoked the crap out of the tires. It was Yellow and we were paranoid that when we got out that we'd have thrown rubber on the side. :D

A couple of years after that, we ended up buying a '96 GT after they introduced 'em with the 4.6 SOHC V8. It was Pacific Green w/ gray leather, gold emblems, etc. It was badass. I don't have any pics, though, unfortunately.
 

DarrenG

macrumors regular
Mar 3, 2008
110
0
England
Here's mine, a Mk1 Ford Fiesta. It was a decent car, only a few years old when I bought it after getting my licence at 17 in '83. This isn't the actual car as I don't have any photos of her any more but it was the same model and the same awful colour! I added a rear spoiler from the SuperSport model (the one I really wanted but couldn't afford to buy or insure), front driving lights and a lot of polish to make the 1300cc engine go faster ;)

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montycat

macrumors 6502
Mar 19, 2007
451
143
Florida
I still have my first car. I bought it in 1982 when I was a teenager. It is a genuine 1967 Shelby GT 350. The person I bought it from needed money for computers! It still runs and looks great. Many people think I copied "Eleanor" from the movie Gone in Sixty Seconds. I dont even explain anymore. MC
 

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redwarrior

macrumors 603
Apr 7, 2008
5,573
4
in the Dawg house
I still have my first car. I bought it in 1982 when I was a teenager. It is a genuine 1967 Shelby GT 350. The person I bought it from needed money for computers! It still runs and looks great. Many people think I copied "Eleanor" from the movie Gone in Sixty Seconds. I dont even explain anymore. MC
I thought I only drooled like that in my sleep. I hate you too! :D
 

NC MacGuy

macrumors 603
Feb 9, 2005
6,233
0
The good side of the grass.
I still have my first car. I bought it in 1982 when I was a teenager. It is a genuine 1967 Shelby GT 350. The person I bought it from needed money for computers! It still runs and looks great. Many people think I copied "Eleanor" from the movie Gone in Sixty Seconds. I dont even explain anymore. MC

Make that three for the hate (jealousy!):p
 

ill0gical0ne

macrumors 6502
Jun 17, 2007
262
1
@ill0gical: Those are the cool looking ones - the new ones look so much like 'girly' cars if you know what I mean. The body type you've got there looked a bit more aggressive and 'means business'. Nice car!
Yeah... anyone that likes the 2nd generation eclipse usually hates the 3rd and 4th, because they're ugly as hell. I totally agree with you though.
 

ryannel2003

macrumors 68000
Jan 30, 2005
1,815
388
Greenville, NC
:) My first/only care I've owned, a "sage" '98 LE with the 4L engine and 120k miles :eek: (10k of those being mine). What can I say though, it's in such better shape than other used ones I looked at with half the miles. I get 26-28 MPG with my work commute, which isn't bad.

Pic from when I first got it a few years ago. {pic}

I adore my little Camry. It has never left me stranded anywhere, and I know when I start it up in the morning it will be fine. It gets excellent gas milage, is still in excellent condition, and is one of the better driving cars on the road. I've considered trading it a few times, but I can never bring myself too. I had it at a body shop for a few days getting a dent fixed in the rear (thanks to some assh*ole at my high school) and it was gone for 3 days and you wouldn't believe how much I missed it. I was grinning from ear to ear when I finally got it back.

But enough about me, yours looks super clean. I love that color (sage I believe) and the body looks free of dents and dings. You wouldn't believe how many disgusting Camry's i've seen. Most people don't take care of the things, and they do 10k mile oil changes. Camry's with 60-70k miles look like they've been to hell and back. I take pride in my car, and I HATE a dirty car.

Anyways, glad to see another Camry driver here! :)
 

Bobdude161

macrumors 65816
Mar 12, 2006
1,215
1
N'Albany, Indiana
My old 1987 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham. Such a beautiful and extremely comfortable car at a cost of 12 mpg. I bought it when I was a HS junior for $2000 and then sold it my freshman year of college for $1000.

I'm planning on buying the same kind of car with the same blue paint later on down the road as kind of the "fun car" to drive around on the weekends. I miss her very much. :(
 

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ErikCLDR

macrumors 68000
Jan 14, 2007
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They are easy to work on - you don't need many special tools, and every single part simply unbolts; however, the design is 'unique' in some aspects. Sometimes it takes more labor than you'd expect, and that's why some repairs cost much more than other vehicles.

Yea I agree with that. They are really built to be worked on unlike German cars. To do anything in our Touareg you have to take apart the entire car. I would say if you can work on your own car they're great, if not, then you'll have to be prepared to pay. I will admit I've gotten my hands dirty a few times with the Rovers. I installed a new ignition lock on my old one, only took about 20 minutes. It was actually a little scary how easily that thing came out.
 

neiltc13

macrumors 68040
May 27, 2006
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2004 Smart Roadster:

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Great car, has a 0.7L petrol engine with turbocharger, full heated leather interior, electric folding soft top and I've added proper iPod connectivity to it too.

Here is a picture of the three cylinder engine that gives me between 40 and 50mpg consistently:
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