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DBtech13

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0dev

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Think of it like this.

If you go to your local computer shop and spend $500 on a HP laptop made of cheap plastic then you know that, regardless of how good the specs look on paper, or indeed how good the design may be, that isn't a good quality laptop.

On the other hand, if you spend $2000 on a MacBook Pro with the same specs on paper, but you get a much better build quality, you know that's a solid laptop. It'll look better, function better, give you less aggro, etc.

It's the exact same with cars. Most American cars are cheap crap with a big engine bolted in but with little to no attention paid to reliability, build quality, handling, and so on, whereas something more expensive with the same power like aforementioned Aston Martin will have better build quality, better handling (which also means more speed in the real world), better reliability, etc.

The bottom line is you get what you pay for. It's as simple as that. Objectively, a cheap half-assed car with a massive engine is inferior to a more expensive refined car with a massive engine.
 

chrono1081

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Jan 26, 2008
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I was hoping to post a dress shirt on here today but they're impossible to find in my area in my size. 17 1/2 neck and 36/37 arms is a normal size.

EDIT: Ok I lie there was ONE but it was pink. I don't want pink....I want green.
 

wordoflife

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It's the exact same with cars. Most American cars are cheap crap with a big engine bolted in but with little to no attention paid to reliability, build quality, handling, and so on, whereas something more expensive with the same power like aforementioned Aston Martin will have better build quality, better handling (which also means more speed in the real world), better reliability, etc.

No offense, but *obviously* the Aston Martin will be superior to a Ford. I mean, it's only 2-3x more expensive.


What's your point? :confused:
You're comparing apples and oranges :rolleyes:
 

partyBoy

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hey trolls, were talking about a "COBRA" mustang, not a regular mustang. im gonna teach you something...Cobra mustangs even beats some of the exotic cars, havent you seen top gear? end of discussion, let the pics continue
 

J911

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New Skates for Summer and backpack to carry em:)

Seba Skates and Seba Backpack!
 

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h1r0ll3r

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I'm enjoying the hell out of this American piece of crap with its big ol' engine bolted in...! :)

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Sexy little 'stang you got there. I freakin' hate you :p

I was hoping to post a dress shirt on here today but they're impossible to find in my area in my size. 17 1/2 neck and 36/37 arms is a normal size..

You and me both. Damn near impossible to find that shirt size around my area. It's too big for normal clothing stores and too small for the Big & Tall shops.
 

tytanic11

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Think of it like this.

If you go to your local computer shop and spend $500 on a HP laptop made of cheap plastic then you know that, regardless of how good the specs look on paper, or indeed how good the design may be, that isn't a good quality laptop.

On the other hand, if you spend $2000 on a MacBook Pro with the same specs on paper, but you get a much better build quality, you know that's a solid laptop. It'll look better, function better, give you less aggro, etc.

It's the exact same with cars. Most American cars are cheap crap with a big engine bolted in but with little to no attention paid to reliability, build quality, handling, and so on, whereas something more expensive with the same power like aforementioned Aston Martin will have better build quality, better handling (which also means more speed in the real world), better reliability, etc.

The bottom line is you get what you pay for. It's as simple as that. Objectively, a cheap half-assed car with a massive engine is inferior to a more expensive refined car with a massive engine.

The difference is that the previous poster actually owns his Mustang, I highly doubt you've ever even driven an Aston Martin. The Mustang is a great car for its price range, and so is the Aston. It sounds like you had a bad experience with an American car once, but it's no reason to say that all of them are crap. It may be true that some american cars have poor handling and reliability, but the Mustang Cobra is not one of them. It's like saying you won't buy any HP product because the $300 HP notebooks have poor build quality.
 

BulletToothTony

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Jan 5, 2009
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Just got this a few days ago.
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Pleasently surprised on how much better it sounds than the onboard sound.



Great choice on the PSU, and the sleeving does make the build look cleaner. I have the same PSU, and did my own sleeving. :)

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what case are you using.. i looks nice from that angle. But i'm very picky about my cases.
 

MAC-PRO-DEMON

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Jul 10, 2008
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The difference is that the previous poster actually owns his Mustang, I highly doubt you've ever even driven an Aston Martin. The Mustang is a great car for its price range, and so is the Aston. It sounds like you had a bad experience with an American car once, but it's no reason to say that all of them are crap. It may be true that some american cars have poor handling and reliability, but the Mustang Cobra is not one of them. It's like saying you won't buy any HP product because the $300 HP notebooks have poor build quality.

Informed car owners would rather have a Toyota GT-86 than a Mustang as they know, in real life, that it would drive, handle and perform better in every single way aside from top speed and acceleration. It would go on till a nuclear apocalypse, and when something did break, it wouldn't be a hillbilly in the Ford garage fixing it. In anywhere other than america we are sensible enough to see that your muscle cars are cool, but that is it. Give me a well performing, great handling, lightweight European or far Eastern car any day! :eek:
 

basesloaded190

macrumors 68030
Oct 16, 2007
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Informed car owners would rather have a Toyota GT-86 than a Mustang as they know, in real life, that it would drive, handle and perform better in every single way aside from top speed and acceleration. It would go on till a nuclear apocalypse, and when something did break, it wouldn't be a hillbilly in the Ford garage fixing it. In anywhere other than america we are sensible enough to see that your muscle cars are cool, but that is it. Give me a well performing, great handling, lightweight European or far Eastern car any day! :eek:

No, it would just be a hillbilly in a Toyota garage fixing it.
 

0dev

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Perhaps a better example to use would have been the Nissan GTR. It's about half the price of the Aston but it's undoubtedly ten times the car compared to the Mustang.

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steviem

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May 26, 2006
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Informed car owners would rather have a Toyota GT-86 than a Mustang as they know, in real life, that it would drive, handle and perform better in every single way aside from top speed and acceleration. It would go on till a nuclear apocalypse, and when something did break, it wouldn't be a hillbilly in the Ford garage fixing it. In anywhere other than america we are sensible enough to see that your muscle cars are cool, but that is it. Give me a well performing, great handling, lightweight European or far Eastern car any day! :eek:

You talk like somebody with no experience of the 2010-2012 Camaro, Challenger or Mustang.

All 3 are actually made well, actually turn (as an Englishman who had 205 and Golf GTIs and was brought up watching Clarkson bash muscle cars, I was definitely surprised!). They don't particularly share the practicality of a hot hatch, but the way they are set up, especially the Camaro SS, with more fashionable suspension (saying fashionable because the new Mustang with its live rear axle still corners well) and with those crazy engines shoe horned in, they are just great.

The acceleration in all 3 is tremendous (especially after turning off the Mustang's cotton wool based Traction Control) and something you'll need to plough a lot of money into with a GT-86 to match. Even then, you can just get a twin screw supercharger kit on a Camaro for $6000 (or $3000 if you have a 2012) and have over 500bhp with little work done on strengthening components.

I still would like to take a Scion FR-S for a test drive when they arrive here, just so my opinion is fully formed, but I am very much leaning towards a muscle car in the future.

Mods, I'd appreciate it if all of our car talk gets put into a new community discussion so it doesn't get just deleted or pollute the car pictures thread...
 
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