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Remember how much Apple wanted to charge for OS 10.1, and the resulting marketing fiasco.

Apple relented and released OS 10.1 as a low cost upgrade and made it available free at select stores.

Somehow I don't think it'll work a second time with Jaguar, since there are enough "new" features in this OS product to make it a full ticket charge.
 
Originally posted by Sun Baked
Remember how much Apple wanted to charge for OS 10.1, and the resulting marketing fiasco.

Apple relented and released OS 10.1 as a low cost upgrade and made it available free at select stores.

Somehow I don't think it'll work a second time with Jaguar, since there are enough "new" features in this OS product to make it a full ticket charge.

I went and picked up the full retail version of OS X (10.1) and paid the ~$130. Considering how it came with two OS's (9.2 and 10.1) as well as the developers cd, it was a bargain. M$ only gives you the OS, and MAYBE a SP with it (if you are lucky).

Value for the dollar, the Mac OS still beats m$ to a bleeding pulp. Apple is your friend, while m$ makes you it's biatch. :D
 
Originally posted by Macette
i think they won't jump to 10.5, because that knocks out a whole lot of potential Xs... i mean, they've got this logo and all the marketing hype around 'X', so they don't want to find themselves having to use XI or 11 just because they went too fast through the 'x's...

Well, I don't think they'll do that. Since currently it's "MacOS X v10.1.5", logically the next major version would not be "MacOS XI" or "MacOS 11" but rather "MacOS X v11.0". I don't get why they chose that, but then again I'm not Apple, sooo...
 
I talked to my Apple rep and they specifically said that Jaguar for client and server would be paid updates. No price was set yet, but they would let me know as soon as they knew anything.
 
The price depends. In Switzerland the 10.1 upgrade was free. And in the States it was 19.95. It's up to Apple's sometimes strange marketing people to decide what the price is, where.
 
Originally posted by AlphaTech


For peecee operating systems, you couldn't give me 98, me, or hexpee. I have win2k on the game system and it is very stable (for windows), not too ugly and at least behaves (most of the time). I picked up an OEM copy of win2k when I was building the system, since I was the manufacturer of the computer. Since I did pay about $170 for it (makes full OS X 10.1 seem cheap) I refuse to spend the $300 to "upgrade" to hexpee.

IF I could get a hold of a cheap copy of hexpee I MIGHT consider giving it a shot. That has about as much chance as a snowball in hell though.

Gotta love M$. I didn't think XP Pro was $300, so I went and looked ($299 full, $199 upgrade).

Here's the really cool part: now that were halfway through 2002, M$ is selling Windows 98 for the swell price of just $209 ($10 more than XP home). Talk about f*cking schools and charities that are distributing the older PCs that are abandoned as 'obsolete'. A PII 266 is a great email/web machine, for a new user/student/poor household, but thanks to M$ the $75 PC needs a $209 OS.

I can't get over how much they scr*w people. Makes me wanna be one of their lawyers, so at least I can scr*w them back!

Oh yeah, and Jaguar should be $19.95, back On Topic
 
blubbering morons

honestly i dont know where some of you guys get your ideas....
X.1 was a free upgrade....free from any local apple dealer....initially you couldnt download from the site so if you wanted it directly from apple you had to pay $19.95 for CD and shipping ....then about 1 week later(as i remember) it was then offered on the website....otherwise you could get any of the local dealers to make you a copy of the cd for free(if you brought them a cd).....the only thing was you had to have a previous version of X(obviously) otherwise (from 9.1.1)it was just like ordering a new Operating system $129(and you get 9.2 to boot!)

:confused:
honestly
 
I am in chicago, and this information was fairly new as she was fairly confident in it. Apple will charge an update fee for the OS.

What does 10.1 have to do with 10.2? Just because 10.1 was a free update in no way shape or form guarantees Jaguar will be free also.

Oh, and I really don't like people who think they know everything calling me a moron. Especially ones who think they could download the 10.1 update from Apple's website.;) It was never available as a download from their site unless you were a developer.
 
Originally posted by rugby
Especially ones who think they could download the 10.1 update from Apple's website.;) It was never available as a download from their site unless you were a developer.

True, only the updates TO 10.1 have been available for download. You still need to get the cd with 10.1 on it. OS X 10.1 was too large to be available as a download, which is why it was available ONLY on cd. 10.1 isn't even available to AASP members, as a download.

I would hope that Apple does something similar to what they did for the 10.1 update for 10.2 (or whatever Jaguar is). Bring in the coupons from your recent system purchase and get the new OS for either free, or $20 (US). If you are going from 10.0.x, then expect to pay the full deal.
 
i stand corrected

it is true that the download was not available from the website (i admit in my hasty typing i forgot to think about the update that occured around 6 months ago) however as i remember it was offered and still is as a free upgrade ($19.95 was for cd cost and shipping) and a cd could/can be made at any local apple dealer...............BTW i wasnt specifically calling you a moron...i just was wondering who actually paid to get a free update!!??
 
We have gotten a lot of mileage out of our 129 investment so far, is about time for another round of Apple OS taxes.
 
There is some discrepancy about Switzerland. No, it was not free all over Switzerland. Only at Apple centers (because we have no official Apple retail stores), until supply ran out. Some Apple centers even refused to give it to you the first day, because they wanted to 'install and upgrade their existing stockpile of machines'.

I don't think Apple can really charge for 10.2. What is 10.2. going to bring us??? Q,E, iChat, a new address book, sherlock. Not a enough in my book to qualify as a whole priced upgrade!
 
Originally posted by dantec

I don't think Apple can really charge for 10.2. What is 10.2. going to bring us??? Q,E, iChat, a new address book, sherlock. Not a enough in my book to qualify as a whole priced upgrade!

There's quite a bit more than what you list here.
 
pointless

It's pointless to try and guess if Jaguar/OS X 10.2 or whatever it is going to be called is going to be a paid update or not. I would venture to say that it will be, but I don't know how much they will be charging. It could be the same as for 10.1, even if you had 10.0.x, to get the full retail item, you paid retail price. The free, or less cost, updates didn't have the developers cd with them (in the cases I have heard about at least). You got the TWO OS's and that was all.

IF Apple offers free updates to anyone that has the proper coupons, if they bring a blank cd or no, then great. Otherwise, there will be more then enough improvements in the next release of OS X to warrant paying for the update (if you want to, if not, then keep what you have and STOP b*tching about it :rolleyes: ).

Take a look at all of the updated features of the next release of OS X, and then tell me it's not worth paying some money to get the features. IF they are not important to you, keep what you have.
 
10.1 update free if....

My local CompUSA's Apple employee still passes out the free update. It includes only an update CD to 10.1, and an update CD to 9.2.1. No developer tools.

I also purchased a 10.1 update from Apple's store for $20. This came with the full 9.2.1 bootable CD (the free wasn't bootable), and a 10.1 update CD, and a 10.1 developers tools.

I suspect the 10.1 full CD if purchased today will include 10.1.3, 9.2.2, Developer tools, and iPhoto, as I've seen boxes including iPhoto in the Apple Store in Tyson's Corner.
 
Originally posted by rugby
What?



Nevermind, I just would think 10.2. would contain much less that 10.1.

So with 10.2. we are getting:
iChat
Address book
Sherlock 3
Spam filter for mail
Rendezvous
Fast find
Quartz Extreme
QT 6
Universal Access
Inkwell
and Unix printer drivers

Is it just me or did 10.1. offer more?
 
Originally posted by dantec
Is it just me or did 10.1. offer more?

You forget about the improvements to the core of the OS... Bundle that with all the other updates, and you get a good package... I almost feel sorry for you if you can't see that...
 
Originally posted by mmmdreg
I'm predicting that it will be free and if not, I'll just get it when I get a new computer..

Sounds like a bit of an expensive way to get the OS update. :D

Depending on when we start seeing new Mac's roll into where I work, I might wait until one comes with it ad then use that version at home. Then again, I might not wait that long, and I also could probably get it for a low price from an Apple store since I purchased a system that came with 10.1.4 on it and I kept the OS coupons...

Only time will tell when Apple will release it, and how much it will cost (for update and new purchase).
 
i bought a TiBook 400mhz last summer. From the apple store, it took weeks and weeks to arrive. Then it arrived on the very day that apple announced the 550/667 mhz TiBooks.

I mean how about that for bad luck!!!

Anyway, my system came with 10.0.3 install disk, (OSX was not installed, even tho it should have been). I also got a 10.1 upgrade CD, a 9.1 Install disk and a 9.2.1 upgrade CD.
I recieved no developer tools CD ROM for either 10.0 or 10.1, is this right?


I also have OS coupons (I'm not sure if they are still valid but i doubt it)
 
amnesiac, it sounds like you got a little more than screwed. My 10.1 kit came with 9.2.1 and developer tools.

Tough break on the belated reception of the powerbook.

Now, who is this guy Murhpy anyways? :)
 
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