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Edit: NM, I must have screwed something up while cleaning the dust off in there...PSU roars up with any card now =/ I guess it's going to Apple.

I just followed this procedure to the letter. It works fine except my power supply fan is over 2700 RPMs and the 4870 card is pretty hot without running anything. I tried resetting the SMC, but about 10 seconds after it finishes booting into Leopard the PSU fan cranks up and stays there.

Any ideas?

I haven't had any fan problems like you describe. Sorry. SMC is where I would go to. Maybe resetting PRAM but I doubt it.
 
Edit: NM, I must have screwed something up while cleaning the dust off in there...PSU roars up with any card now =/ I guess it's going to Apple.

I just followed this procedure to the letter. It works fine except my power supply fan is over 2700 RPMs and the 4870 card is pretty hot without running anything. I tried resetting the SMC, but about 10 seconds after it finishes booting into Leopard the PSU fan cranks up and stays there.

Any ideas?
Wow, that's really weird, that definitely did NOT happen on my machine. If the unflashed 4870 was in while OS X was running, the fan on the CARD would blow pretty hard, but not the PSU. And after flashing the card was very quiet.

Crazy. I'm reluctant to think it has anything to do with the card flashing, just a coincidence? Or maybe your PSU was marginal to begin with and putting in the 4870 with power connected was enough to push it over the edge? Bizarre.
 
Yeah I'm not really sure what's going on...is there a temp probe somewhere or a connector that maybe came lose or something down by the 2 main front fans or anywhere in the bottom part of the case that I can check? Everything works fine, but the PSU is WAY too loud.

This happens in Windows 7 and Leopard, with 4870, 7300 and 8800GT cards swapped out individually, resetting SMC each time.
 
Crossfire works on the Windows side using flashed cards, but not on the Mac side.

In addition, crossfire DOES NOT WORK on the Windows side when using an official Apple 4870. Only the flashed PC ones will do crossfire in Windows. Current speculation is that it's something in hardware that was changed to disable it on the official Apple 4870s.

So people like me who have an Apple 4870 are SOL? Jeez that stinks.
 
So people like me who have an Apple 4870 are SOL? Jeez that stinks.

Yeah I'm afraid so. One can only assume that Apple didn't want users to achieve better graphics performance in Windows than in OS X so instead of getting ATI to write Crossfire compatible OS X drivers, they limited the cards' windows ability.
 
But they'd get better performance in Windows anyway, because more stuff is optimized to work well with GPU acceleration in Windows...
 
Well looking on the bright side, it looks like I get a new display. Unless there is an adapter that converts mini displayport to DVI. LOL, a man can dream. :)
 
Well looking on the bright side, it looks like I get a new display. Unless there is an adapter that converts mini displayport to DVI. LOL, a man can dream. :)

Mini Displayport to DVI yes, DVI to Mini Displayport, alas no.

Mind you, one thing I've been wondering is whether you could hack together a Full size display port to mini display port adater and then buy a PC 4870 with a full size display port on it. I seem to remember Gigabyte's 4870s having Displayport. The only challenge would be getting the female mini displayport connector. If only Apple at least did a MDP extension cable!!
 
Mini Displayport to DVI yes, DVI to Mini Displayport, alas no.

Mind you, one thing I've been wondering is whether you could hack together a Full size display port to mini display port adater and then buy a PC 4870 with a full size display port on it. I seem to remember Gigabyte's 4870s having Displayport. The only challenge would be getting the female mini displayport connector. If only Apple at least did a MDP extension cable!!

DVI to Mini Displayport is what I meant. Well thats all in good, but like I said before, I'm impatient (which is what got me in this mess). So either that happens in the next week, or for now I just have a useless card right now.
 
Well it looks like I might have resolved the problem I mentioned earlier about the permanent runaway PSU fan.

-Pushed the 2 buttons on the motherboard, one just under the low slot PCI-E slot and one by the highest PCI-E slot.
-Installed the 7300GT
--No loud PSU fan
-Swapped out to an 8800GT
--No loud PSU fan
-installed 4870
--Loud PSU fan
-Turned off, pushed both buttons again
--No PSU fan
-Rebooted to windows 7 and back, still ok. PSU fan at 600 RPM instead of 2700.

Not sure what this means, sounds like a bad PSU or something. I couldn't imagine running two of these cards in there.

I haven't had a very good track record with this Mac Pro. I've gone through 3 1900XTs that got changed out thanks to Blizzard getting involved with Apple. The last time it blew I just switched to the 8800GT since it just came out. That blew out last week (it locks up OSX in games now and driver stops responding in games in windows 7) and so I found the 4870 would work. We'll see how long this lasts. No point in buying one from apple for double the price with their track record.

I keep considering going back to PC since windows 7 is actually decent, but being in the photography business I feel apple is where I should be. I just really want something reliable =/

On a positive note, Apple gave me a brand new 30 inch ACD a week before the warranty expired on mine since the top right of the screen was losing pixels or something.
 
Mini Displayport to DVI yes, DVI to Mini Displayport, alas no.

Mind you, one thing I've been wondering is whether you could hack together a Full size display port to mini display port adater and then buy a PC 4870 with a full size display port on it. I seem to remember Gigabyte's 4870s having Displayport. The only challenge would be getting the female mini displayport connector. If only Apple at least did a MDP extension cable!!

Monoprice does now make a MDP extension cable, actually. No DP to MDP adapter. Yet.
 
I created a new custom ROM file for XFX XXX Edition card listed above with the revision F EFI rom from the latest shipping Apple 4870 cards. While it works just as well as the old ROM, it doesn't appear to fix the 2.5 GT/s link speed issue, nor the 2nd DVI port is only single-link issue. I've attached the ROM file should you be interested in trying for yourself. Again, I am no way responsible if this ROM bricks your card. Use it entirely at your own risk.

Hi rhildinger, just wondering is there any advantage using this RevF Rom over the rom you posted earlier? (post 487)
I have a xfx HD4870xxx which will be arriving this week. I have Dell 20" vga monitor attached to my Mac Pro 1.1 currently using the apple dvi-vga adapter.
Am I right in thinking that this will not work with these flashed cards? as in no vga reported (it works with my flashed Sapphire X1900 xtx)

If so, does anyone have a HannsG HG221AP had a good review in Macworld after reading the thread (several times!!) I know there is an issue with some LCD's. Would be helpful to get a list of screens that have issues.

Thanks again for all the hard work you guys have put into this. I will post my efforts when I have done. :)
 
Monoprice does now make a MDP extension cable, actually. No DP to MDP adapter. Yet.

Looks like they do have one listed now but its on back order. Buy one of those and a standard display port extension and you could easily make your own set of mini display port to display port and display port to mini display port adapters.
 
I have Dell 20" vga monitor attached to my Mac Pro 1.1 currently using the apple dvi-vga adapter.
Am I right in thinking that this will not work with these flashed cards? as in no vga reported (it works with my flashed Sapphire X1900 xtx)

There is VGA on these cards.

You need to have a DVI-VGA adapter on both ports and you may need to use SwitchResX to get your display's res choices, but it is there.

This only works on cards with BOTH DVI ports working.
 
I know I must have done something wrong, not sure what....
I'm swapping out an X1900XT, using the power cable that came with than plus one of V0n's. Card's an XFX 1GB XXX edition. So, yes, the 4870 is the only card in the system. I have two Superdrives fitted, so no spare molex for a second card unless I use one of those- I would prefer to avoid it?
Windows boots fine, copied the ROM fine, UBCD (4.1.1) appeared to burn fine. But the CD won't boot the system. Not with holding down 'C' or option. Try burning another one with Toast on my MacBook- no dice. ATI WinFlash can't see the card (CCC etc installed fine, running beautifully). So, ATM, I have an excellent XP box. But how do I get this thing flashed and running properly? Any ideas gratefully accepted...
 
I know I must have done something wrong, not sure what....
I'm swapping out an X1900XT, using the power cable that came with than plus one of V0n's. Card's an XFX 1GB XXX edition. So, yes, the 4870 is the only card in the system. I have two Superdrives fitted, so no spare molex for a second card unless I use one of those- I would prefer to avoid it?
Windows boots fine, copied the ROM fine, UBCD (4.1.1) appeared to burn fine. But the CD won't boot the system. Not with holding down 'C' or option. Try burning another one with Toast on my MacBook- no dice. ATI WinFlash can't see the card (CCC etc installed fine, running beautifully). So, ATM, I have an excellent XP box. But how do I get this thing flashed and running properly? Any ideas gratefully accepted...

Have you tried selecting the CD as the boot up device from Bootcamp Tools? Or, try holding the [Option] key when booting?
 
I would guess you made a mistake in creating the CD. You need to make it bootable and it sounds like you just made an un-bootable disc of data (try booting from an audio CD for example). My tutorial might be helpful in this:

http://web.me.com/jacobcroft/4870Flash/4870Flash.html

Yup, I was following that (very helpful it is too, btw). I got Magic ISO, was using that to burn. I have Nero version-something-or-other on an ancient (2002) PC, I'll try that later (at work at mo).
 
OK, burnt yet another UBCD. My MacBook boots fine with it holding down 'C'. Straight off the bat, no problems. The Pro- nada, ignores it then goes back into Windows. Holding down C or Option makes no difference. My wrist gets sore to no avail. Can't see a boot menu, let alone get it to start up from the CD- which is clearly OK. Seriously hacked off with this......

Update: After playing Kane's Wrath for a bit of relief, I tried WinFlash again- made sure it was the latest version. And praise be, it's worked perfectly. Back in OS X now. Still haven't a clue why the UBCD wouldn't work, but got there in the end. Thanks rhildinger and swissman for the software and the tutorial. £160 thankfully not wasted (or spent on a card I managed to brick...).
 
OK, burnt yet another UBCD. My MacBook boots fine with it holding down 'C'. Straight off the bat, no problems. The Pro- nada, ignores it then goes back into Windows. Holding down C or Option makes no difference. My wrist gets sore to no avail. Can't see a boot menu, let alone get it to start up from the CD- which is clearly OK. Seriously hacked off with this......

Update: After playing Kane's Wrath for a bit of relief, I tried WinFlash again- made sure it was the latest version. And praise be, it's worked perfectly. Back in OS X now. Still haven't a clue why the UBCD wouldn't work, but got there in the end. Thanks rhildinger and swissman for the software and the tutorial. £160 thankfully not wasted (or spent on a card I managed to brick...).

Just out of interest, what keyboard are you using? Any non Apple wireless keyboard will likely not work with boot up options.
 
I just got one of the newly released 4890s (a Sapphire 4890 Toxic 1GB (960MHz clock)), and I installed the ATY_init package thats listed on the front page of netkas.org. I inserted the card into Slot 1, and ran a cable from the empty optical bay molex connector to the 8-pin PCI-E power connector on the card and used the existing 6-pin PCI-E cable from my X1900 to connect to the other power connector on the card. Unfortunately, as soon as OS X loads, the card's fan goes to 100% and I get no video.

I'm running 10.5.7 on a 2006 Mac Pro, but I haven't installed drivers since I was under the impression that they're only needed with 10.5.6. I may try to use an older version of ATY_init like the one linked to here to see if that might make any difference.

Anyone have any other ideas about what I can do to get this card working in OS X? I'm willing to provide any additional info needed if it'll help.
 
there was pkg with antit&aty_init inside, on this thread, works for 4890

seems like new aty_init works only for 4870x2 yet.
 
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