uhm how is that packaged?
its a zip that contains a cppgz that contains a zip that contains a cppgz etc etc
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uhm how is that packaged?
its a zip that contains a cppgz that contains a zip that contains a cppgz etc etc
Is this working whit mac?
http://www1.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=251
Any one tested?
http://www1.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=251
Any one tested?
So over 2Gb cards doesnt´s work right? I have looking for 2Gb cards to mac but this is good info if there is bug on os x.
But 1Gb is just fine.
well they work but there's a bug, osx will read memory as -2048 (minus) for some reason
so when you start some games or apps they will say "Too low video memory"
more about that in this thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/707745/
so when you start some games or apps they will say "Too low video memory"
more about that in this thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/707745/
I don't know what happened. I'm reattaching it.
The card boots up with the gray screen and apple logo. Just the quick error message after the boot, that's it.
I was happy to pass by the brand new Apple store 5 minutes from my home.
The card boots up with the gray screen and apple logo. Just the quick error message after the boot, that's it.
I was happy to pass by the brand new Apple store 5 minutes from my home.
really glad the ROM worked.
Seems good in SL, but I am not as sure on Leopard, may be single display only there.
When others test, please report your results. Should work on either ZWFL or ZWFC. BTW, the reason these cards can get away with smaller fan is that they throttle back more than past 4870s did. Not sure if the "kick down cable" is attached in OSX.
So, in Windows, they actually run cooler than past ones. 2 wire fan reports speed differently too. No volterra chip too...which means no fiddlling with GPU voltages.
If anyone wants to play with ROM, be careful. RBE 1.22 showed 3 speeds....when i set them all to 3d speed it crashed into artifacts at boot. So....i think it has another place where it adds some number to speed.
I wrote a working ROM for these new cheaper cards. Would be great if everyone lent a hand i refining it.
Seems good in SL, but I am not as sure on Leopard, may be single display only there.
When others test, please report your results. Should work on either ZWFL or ZWFC. BTW, the reason these cards can get away with smaller fan is that they throttle back more than past 4870s did. Not sure if the "kick down cable" is attached in OSX.
So, in Windows, they actually run cooler than past ones. 2 wire fan reports speed differently too. No volterra chip too...which means no fiddlling with GPU voltages.
If anyone wants to play with ROM, be careful. RBE 1.22 showed 3 speeds....when i set them all to 3d speed it crashed into artifacts at boot. So....i think it has another place where it adds some number to speed.
I wrote a working ROM for these new cheaper cards. Would be great if everyone lent a hand i refining it.
Rominator is there any chance you could roll a working ROM for the newer revision XFX 4890 ZDFC cards that I and others are having trouble with? Using all the ones already posted and creating my own with Pipomolo's instructions I haven't had any success. I would have PM'ed you but the forums won't let me; guess I'm too new. I'm not above begging by the way.
What has been result with ROMs you guys did?
I much prefer when you folks do them...as Cindori discovered, any little piece of assistance you give out for free ends up costing you time in support for the trouble it causes. A lose/lose for the person offering the free help. I only took a look at XFX 4870 as we seem to have hit a roadblock and I wanted XFX to still be a good brand to flash.
I imagine that your efforts on this card have been hampered by the GDDR5 lookup table address. It changes as PC ROM changes length, so pointer in PC ROM has to change as well.
BTW....maybe someone could help with the "No Power Connected" issue. I am thinking that this warning comes from either EFI ROM or the Motmot driver. The ZWFL/FC cards have a PC ROM without the power warning where it was in earlier 4870s. If we could eliminate this check, or poke a value into a register so it always seemed OK, would be a big help. Same issue plagues the 4850 flash efforts.
I much prefer when you folks do them...as Cindori discovered, any little piece of assistance you give out for free ends up costing you time in support for the trouble it causes. A lose/lose for the person offering the free help. I only took a look at XFX 4870 as we seem to have hit a roadblock and I wanted XFX to still be a good brand to flash.
I imagine that your efforts on this card have been hampered by the GDDR5 lookup table address. It changes as PC ROM changes length, so pointer in PC ROM has to change as well.
BTW....maybe someone could help with the "No Power Connected" issue. I am thinking that this warning comes from either EFI ROM or the Motmot driver. The ZWFL/FC cards have a PC ROM without the power warning where it was in earlier 4870s. If we could eliminate this check, or poke a value into a register so it always seemed OK, would be a big help. Same issue plagues the 4850 flash efforts.
Please see here: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8655039/
How would I go about making my own ROM other then Pipomolo's method? If after reading over my description you still suspect it's simply a problem with a pointer to the memory table then there's still hope, otherwise I've hit a dead end.
Just PM'd you my addy. Need you to send me the ROM you made via pipolomo42's method.
I am away from home, the Mac Pro with all my stuff on it is there, I am here with a little Macbook so limited in help abilities, but I would like a look at the ROM you already did.
I am away from home, the Mac Pro with all my stuff on it is there, I am here with a little Macbook so limited in help abilities, but I would like a look at the ROM you already did.
banged one out and he says it is still NG.
Artifacts described seem to indicate bad RAM timings or speeds, very odd s I made it from original ROM.
BTW, the error that was in ZWFL and this ROM were in the positioning of GDDR5 table and pointer to it in pC BIOS.
Will keep working on this XFX puzzle. ANyone have one in LA?
Yes, but there are three different MP models and most of the posts didn't say which version they were talking about. It took a lot of reading before I saw that the flash does indeed work in my MP'06
Ahhh, I didn't see the separate thread.
I'm getting the card now, it's only $150 used. Do you happen to know which versions are OK? The one I'm looking at is the HD-489A-ZDDC.
Maury
Sapphire 4870 1gb SKU 11133-19-20R
I too ran into the same issue that d1sahib and zvon hit. Flashed using elvisizer's rom and show same symptoms.
The Card I used:
Sapphire 4870 1GB GDDR5
SKU# 11133-19-20R
Elvisizer's rom was shown to be for SKU#11133-04-20r
I originally backed up the ROM using GPU Z via windows. Next, I stripped out the ATI flashing utility from the iMac update as outlined by pipomolo42. I then put elvisizer's rom in the flashing utility and flashed away. After the flash and observing the same issues of the above mentioned posters, I attempted making my own ROM via the python script. It seemed to work after flashing when i used a secondary display, no artifacts on the first restart and showed up in the profiler as a 4870. But on second restart and an attempt to use the sapphire exclusively, black screen while using either DVI ports. I could then no longer get a display to show on the mac pro or PC while the card was plugged in, using a secondary card for the main display. Neither would boot after many swaps and restarts. I was able to salvage it and reflash to the original by moving it to the 3rd PCI slot in the Mac Pro and using the x1900 to drive the display in slot 1, holding option and choosing os x instead of letting it boot straight. This seemed to allow the Boot volume screen to show and Os X to finish booting with the card installed though it took a very long time. Luckily i was able to flash it back. Im curious to hear if anyone has any tips or help to offer in getting a solidly working ROM for this SKU of the Sapphire. It seems to be the new one they are sending out. Thanks for the detailed thread all. Its been a great read and exciting to see people meet success after their many experiments.
Ill be happy to elaborate, build another rom, and clean up my post so it is more helpful to others. Thanks again everyone.
I too ran into the same issue that d1sahib and zvon hit. Flashed using elvisizer's rom and show same symptoms.
The Card I used:
Sapphire 4870 1GB GDDR5
SKU# 11133-19-20R
Elvisizer's rom was shown to be for SKU#11133-04-20r
I originally backed up the ROM using GPU Z via windows. Next, I stripped out the ATI flashing utility from the iMac update as outlined by pipomolo42. I then put elvisizer's rom in the flashing utility and flashed away. After the flash and observing the same issues of the above mentioned posters, I attempted making my own ROM via the python script. It seemed to work after flashing when i used a secondary display, no artifacts on the first restart and showed up in the profiler as a 4870. But on second restart and an attempt to use the sapphire exclusively, black screen while using either DVI ports. I could then no longer get a display to show on the mac pro or PC while the card was plugged in, using a secondary card for the main display. Neither would boot after many swaps and restarts. I was able to salvage it and reflash to the original by moving it to the 3rd PCI slot in the Mac Pro and using the x1900 to drive the display in slot 1, holding option and choosing os x instead of letting it boot straight. This seemed to allow the Boot volume screen to show and Os X to finish booting with the card installed though it took a very long time. Luckily i was able to flash it back. Im curious to hear if anyone has any tips or help to offer in getting a solidly working ROM for this SKU of the Sapphire. It seems to be the new one they are sending out. Thanks for the detailed thread all. Its been a great read and exciting to see people meet success after their many experiments.
Ill be happy to elaborate, build another rom, and clean up my post so it is more helpful to others. Thanks again everyone.
Hi there,
I've bought a XFX HD-487A-ZWFL and want to flash the rom...
Any suggestions? I haven't found a working rom so please I need your support! Thanks!!
I've bought a XFX HD-487A-ZWFL and want to flash the rom...
Any suggestions? I haven't found a working rom so please I need your support! Thanks!!
try this:
http://krull.se/macpro/ZWFCFlash.zip
it uses rom mentioned 18 posts above yours.
instructions, still same:
unzip, move all files to boot drive root
launch app, wait 20 sec
reboot
if you are running other ATI cards in your mac, you have to follow this
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8605779/
backup rom, also good to have
http://krull.se/macpro/ZWFCFlash.zip
it uses rom mentioned 18 posts above yours.
instructions, still same:
unzip, move all files to boot drive root
launch app, wait 20 sec
reboot
if you are running other ATI cards in your mac, you have to follow this
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8605779/
backup rom, also good to have
Many thanks! I haven't receive my power cables yet, but I will report whether this rom is working asap!
I've spent much of the evening reading most of the 4870 and 4890 threads in this forum. My thanks to EVERYONE for all the tinkering and tweaking in order to help your fellow Mac users save some bucks on a faster video card!!!
After much consideration, I decided I wanted to upgrade my Mac Pro 1,1 from the Radeon X1900 to a faster graphics card that's also OpenCL compatible but to do so for as little money as possible. I don't play any games on my Mac Pro (well, I fiddle around with MAME from time to time) and, really, the only CPU and GPU intensive apps I use are Apple's Aperture and (to a much less extent) Photoshop. My digital SLR makes really big RAW files (22+MB) and I'll frequently be importing 300-400 images into Aperture at a time. If I try to work with images at the same time Aperture is importing, I can get the fans going pretty good on my Mac Pro. I'm confident that a forthcoming version of Aperture will take advantage of OpenCL so that should help. But, of course, I need a OpenCL compatible card.
I strongly considered a 4890 card but three things slowed me down. One, they are more expensive than 4870 cards (see "for as little money as possible" above). Two, the 4890s possibly require the reinstallation of the drivers each time a new OS version is released. And, three, it's looking pretty difficult to find a card that is known to be flash-friendly.
So, with those considerations in mind, I settled on getting a 4870 card. And, since I don't play graphics intense games, I also figured the 512MB card would be plenty of VRAM. Heck, after all, that's what Apple sells, right?!
Anyway, thanks to a flash-friendly confirmation by ManiG in message #1768 (page 71), I decided to get an XFX HD-487A-YHFC. The card looks exactly like the one shown here, except the one I ordered is the 512MB version.
The card is supposed to be delivered by next Tuesday. I got it for $134.99 with free shipping and no sales tax. That compares very favorably to the $350 I would have had to pay for the Apple 512MB 4870.
Now a question..... Should I follow the flash procedure listed at the link above (Bootcamp or Windows flash), or, is it likely I'll be safe using Cindori's flash.app posted several pages back in this thread, and also posted HERE?
Cindori.... BTW, I'm not clear... is there a separate flash.app for the 4890 and 4870 or are they really just the same app?
Fingers crossed it all works out!
Mark
After much consideration, I decided I wanted to upgrade my Mac Pro 1,1 from the Radeon X1900 to a faster graphics card that's also OpenCL compatible but to do so for as little money as possible. I don't play any games on my Mac Pro (well, I fiddle around with MAME from time to time) and, really, the only CPU and GPU intensive apps I use are Apple's Aperture and (to a much less extent) Photoshop. My digital SLR makes really big RAW files (22+MB) and I'll frequently be importing 300-400 images into Aperture at a time. If I try to work with images at the same time Aperture is importing, I can get the fans going pretty good on my Mac Pro. I'm confident that a forthcoming version of Aperture will take advantage of OpenCL so that should help. But, of course, I need a OpenCL compatible card.
I strongly considered a 4890 card but three things slowed me down. One, they are more expensive than 4870 cards (see "for as little money as possible" above). Two, the 4890s possibly require the reinstallation of the drivers each time a new OS version is released. And, three, it's looking pretty difficult to find a card that is known to be flash-friendly.
So, with those considerations in mind, I settled on getting a 4870 card. And, since I don't play graphics intense games, I also figured the 512MB card would be plenty of VRAM. Heck, after all, that's what Apple sells, right?!
Anyway, thanks to a flash-friendly confirmation by ManiG in message #1768 (page 71), I decided to get an XFX HD-487A-YHFC. The card looks exactly like the one shown here, except the one I ordered is the 512MB version.
The card is supposed to be delivered by next Tuesday. I got it for $134.99 with free shipping and no sales tax. That compares very favorably to the $350 I would have had to pay for the Apple 512MB 4870.
Now a question..... Should I follow the flash procedure listed at the link above (Bootcamp or Windows flash), or, is it likely I'll be safe using Cindori's flash.app posted several pages back in this thread, and also posted HERE?
Cindori.... BTW, I'm not clear... is there a separate flash.app for the 4890 and 4870 or are they really just the same app?
Fingers crossed it all works out!
Mark
I'm looking for testers of my app:
It's based on a XFX rom so don't bitch if your card is different and doesn't work
It's the same rom used in this guide:
http://web.me.com/jacobcroft/4870Flash/4870Flash.html
Download it here:
http://krull.se/macpro/4870Flash.zip
Instructions:
Unzip your package so you have your contents on your boot drive like this:
Now open the 4870Flash.app
It will run for 20 seconds and will pop up in the dock and vanish when it's done.
Now restart your computer
Done! you can now remove all the files from the boot drive!
yes there are different apps
that is for the 4870
Hi there, the ROM is working.
But I got this damn error, that there are no power cables connected.
Edit: No Dual-Link-DVI -.- I have a 30" ACD here. I don't want to use it with a 1280x800 resolution.
Isn't it possible to work on a better ROM? Dual-DVI is important for me and this error su***, too.
But I got this damn error, that there are no power cables connected.
Edit: No Dual-Link-DVI -.- I have a 30" ACD here. I don't want to use it with a 1280x800 resolution.
Isn't it possible to work on a better ROM? Dual-DVI is important for me and this error su***, too.
dual link works, but only on port 1
afaik.
stop ****ing complaining, we are doing this on our free time, nonprofit; no reason for us to work on a better rom cause dual dvi is important for you, and certainly not when you put it that way.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8673689/
afaik.
stop ****ing complaining, we are doing this on our free time, nonprofit; no reason for us to work on a better rom cause dual dvi is important for you, and certainly not when you put it that way.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8673689/
Thank you Cindori! I will be giving your 4870 app a try (test!?) next week when the card arrives. I think the XFX ROM you used will be perfect because the one you linked looks exactly like the card I ordered (though, mine is the 512MB card). This is the card I ordered:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...?EdpNo=4405990&sku=P450-4874&srkey=HD487AYHFC
Also, since my existing card is an ATI (x1900), I will be yanking it and using the Natit package. I will review, and re-review the instructions here before flashing. I'm so confident it will work, I'm debating whether I want to go through the trouble of making a backup of the PC ROM. I don't have bootcamp installed on this Mac Pro and don't really want to install it.
I suspect, if it doesn't work, I can find someone on here who has a copy of the PC XFX ROM.
Mark
Cindori,
Another question... This is the same ROM you have used for the 4870.app you mentioned in your last message, right?:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7324217/
So, is that ROM only appropriate for the 1GB cards, or safe to use with the 512MB cards too? Is it an overclocked ROM? (Not sure if the card I ordered is overclocked or not.)
Sorry to ask what may appear to be redundant or stupid questions. I want to get this right the first time.
Thanks!
Mark
Another question... This is the same ROM you have used for the 4870.app you mentioned in your last message, right?:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/7324217/
So, is that ROM only appropriate for the 1GB cards, or safe to use with the 512MB cards too? Is it an overclocked ROM? (Not sure if the card I ordered is overclocked or not.)
Sorry to ask what may appear to be redundant or stupid questions. I want to get this right the first time.
Thanks!
Mark