I try to avoid using Flickr for a lot of different reasons, but none that you've posted. Lots on this thread link their photos directly from Flickr for hosting.
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Ratio of photos you take and keep
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I try to avoid using Flickr for a lot of different reasons, but none that you've posted. Lots on this thread link their photos directly from Flickr for hosting.
That's the only reason I joined flickr. On the old MR you couldn't post decent sized images without a hosting site.
I have never used Flickr; for some years I used Smugmug and then later switched to Zenfolio when it started up, and I much prefer the latter. It seemed easier to organize and to hotlink from than Smugmug, although I'm sure by now things have changed in that regard. When MR and NikonCafe, both places where I hang out and share images from time to time, changed to Xenforo and then we were able to directly upload images from the computer without using a hosting site, once I realized how much easier this is and how much quicker, these days I don't usually bother hotlinking from my Zenfolio gallery.
I just stared a “black Turkish angora cat” group on Flickr
Or smugmug, they buyed them outs!
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Or smugmug, they buyed them outs!
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I still have a Flickr account, but haven't used it in years. SmugMug is my hosting site and does linking very well. Now that SmugMug has bought Flickr, I'm looking to see if things get better on there.
I still have a Flickr account, but haven't used it in years. SmugMug is my hosting site and does linking very well. Now that SmugMug has bought Flickr, I'm looking to see if things get better on there.
I blame lack of servicing!@Apple fanboy - It's not the age, it's the mileage
I still have a Flickr account, but haven't used it in years. SmugMug is my hosting site and does linking very well. Now that SmugMug has bought Flickr, I'm looking to see if things get better on there.
This is an interesting question, and once you really start thinking about it it's more complicated to answer than it initially sounds. It depends, and what defines a "keeper?" My definition of a keeper is an image I would sign, mount, mat, frame and proudly display. Many images I post here do not fall under that strict criteria.
If I'm doing architectural work for somebody I have already scouted the location and know what light and composition I'm looking for. I'm using a tripod with a geared head, a tilt/shift lens and taking my time. Under such circumstances my keeper rate is probably around 50% unless I'm working with a particularly difficult subject (exotic architectural style, very poorly lit without the ability to use strobes, etc.)
If I'm doing documentary work (photographing a protest, creating a photo essay) the lighting conditions are far more varied and may be changing rapidly and compositions will be rapidly flashing in and out of existence due to very dynamic subjects. Old habits die hard; I started photography with film, and to this day I am very deliberate with what images I actually take. Even then, my keeper rate for a strongly composed image with beautiful light is probably a fraction of a percent. I almost always walk around with a camera, but many days I don't take a single photograph. Last year I spent six days in New Orleans working on a photo essay. It was a "working" vacation where I was out all day (and night). I ended up with three keepers that entire trip. I have reams of contact sheets full of garbage. *sigh*
If I'm doing architectural work for somebody I have already scouted the location and know what light and composition I'm looking for. I'm using a tripod with a geared head, a tilt/shift lens and taking my time. Under such circumstances my keeper rate is probably around 50% unless I'm working with a particularly difficult subject (exotic architectural style, very poorly lit without the ability to use strobes, etc.)
If I'm doing documentary work (photographing a protest, creating a photo essay) the lighting conditions are far more varied and may be changing rapidly and compositions will be rapidly flashing in and out of existence due to very dynamic subjects. Old habits die hard; I started photography with film, and to this day I am very deliberate with what images I actually take. Even then, my keeper rate for a strongly composed image with beautiful light is probably a fraction of a percent. I almost always walk around with a camera, but many days I don't take a single photograph. Last year I spent six days in New Orleans working on a photo essay. It was a "working" vacation where I was out all day (and night). I ended up with three keepers that entire trip. I have reams of contact sheets full of garbage. *sigh*
I'm relieved after reading this thread! I burn through a lot of shots as well, though I don't know if it's more my subject matter than anything. I have little kids, and their idea of posing for a photo-op must be measured in milliseconds. Still, I do a lot of trial and error, as I've occasionally ended up with some real winners. I'd say I at least delete half, more so now that I've started to use burst mode more, and I don't own a tripod. Sometimes it's from out-of-focus, most times it's just a boring shot.
I used Instagram for a while. I just had a hard time with the way many people abuse the system. Someone goes on a "like" spree of your content and follows you, hoping you'll do it back. Once that happens, they eventually unfollow you or just ignore you after that. It kinda makes the whole system meaningless, IMO. I think social media is maybe good to keep up with the people you know, but once there is a small amount of fame involved, people often lose touch of reality.
At one point in the past, I was concerned about how many 'likes' or whatever positive reinforcements I received. Not now. No Instagram, no Flickr, not many posts outside of MR. I just share when it's relevant. Giving it away.
And, I haven't deleted any photos of my kittehs.
I used Instagram for a while. I just had a hard time with the way many people abuse the system. Someone goes on a "like" spree of your content and follows you, hoping you'll do it back. Once that happens, they eventually unfollow you or just ignore you after that. It kinda makes the whole system meaningless, IMO. I think social media is maybe good to keep up with the people you know, but once there is a small amount of fame involved, people often lose touch of reality.
Nothing at all wrong with deleting a lot of shots. Trial and error is a great way to learn what works for you and what doesn't. It can also spark creativity.
I would get a tripod though if you have any interest at all in landscape photography @Darmok N Jalad
.~ Peter
This is something I've been thinking about recently actually and it all depends on what I'm doing. Rather than thinking of it as a number of shots, I think of a scene. Some scenes take 1 shot, some take a lot more to get it right, depending on the subject, changing light, movement of water / clouds etc.
With landscapes, I'll take as many as needed to get that one frame that is as close to what I really want. This can be in the region of 10-20 of the same scene if it involves a certain tidal pattern or wave movement. Trial and error until I get a pattern I like.
Generally of one scene, I'll take a few shots, with a few settings changed, then move onto another scene if I'm happy. I might shoot 2-3 scenes in an evening trip, unless I'm away for a full day.
A day full day trip to Perthshire saw me shoot around 25 scenes over a total of 3 or 4 different locations. I think I put the best photo from 4 different scenes on my website. In simple terms, I came away with 4 good shots I deemed worthy of publishing.
When I get home, I review and delete images I don't like, this might mean a whole scene is deleted if it's not good. I might keep one of the better bad ones as a reference for the future in case I go back.
I don't even know if I'm making any sense.
With landscapes, I'll take as many as needed to get that one frame that is as close to what I really want. This can be in the region of 10-20 of the same scene if it involves a certain tidal pattern or wave movement. Trial and error until I get a pattern I like.
Generally of one scene, I'll take a few shots, with a few settings changed, then move onto another scene if I'm happy. I might shoot 2-3 scenes in an evening trip, unless I'm away for a full day.
A day full day trip to Perthshire saw me shoot around 25 scenes over a total of 3 or 4 different locations. I think I put the best photo from 4 different scenes on my website. In simple terms, I came away with 4 good shots I deemed worthy of publishing.
When I get home, I review and delete images I don't like, this might mean a whole scene is deleted if it's not good. I might keep one of the better bad ones as a reference for the future in case I go back.
I don't even know if I'm making any sense.
I had one on last years Christmas list, but Santa missed it!Nothing at all wrong with deleting a lot of shots. Trial and error is a great way to learn what works for you and what doesn't. It can also spark creativity.
I would get a tripod though if you have any interest at all in landscape photography @Darmok N Jalad
~ Peter
Probably no more than half do I keep -- stuff like vacations away, family outings or say the local Memorial Day ceremonies, etc.
The exception is when just documenting my work on a quilting project, there I keep most of them. However, depending on the stage of the work in progress, I don't even concern myself much over whether a shot was in great focus, it's more like ok today what's on the scraps wall at end of day is ... this... before I print it out and stick it in a micro-perforated ziploc bag with those scrap blocks maybe. Or.... today i did five of these... snap of some block... and that stuff just goes in the project "album". I need to know what fabrics I'm using, how much I have, where it is... getting at least the snapshots for the photo album is a pretty well established way to prod me to update the inventory spreadsheet and the actual project log before I wrap up for the evening.
With those casual snapshots of the scrap blocks on the design wall at day's end, I have always gotten a kick out of the old iPhoto ones from the early days of facial recognition. I have several snaps of the likes of friendship star blocks and crazy-quilt blocks (abstract scrap designs) that were tagged as "unnamed"
LOL me too, or at least maybe while swatting mosquitoes while trying to take photos outdoors sans bug repellent. But any more one can actually start to wonder about how differently people conduct themselves in real life v the internet. All it takes to launch the wonderment is inadvertently stepping into some serious (if sometimes temporary) cesspool on social media while otherwise enjoying the time spent online up to that point.
I don't take a ton of photos. Currently I shoot with an A7R2 and have 3 lenses - Zeiss 35-70, Zeiss 80-200mm and Zeiss 21 2.8. In march, I took a week long trip to Death Valley, and took 311 photos. I would say 70 of those are focus bracketed (no need to exposure bracket anymore), and I keep all of the photos. The reason is because A) it takes me a while to edit photos, and B) technology takes a while to catch up sometimes.
If I deleted photos and only kept "keepers", I would say 50-60%
If I deleted photos and only kept "keepers", I would say 50-60%
From bitter experience I've learned to be very careful about what I bin! Obviously accidental / severely out of focus / exact duplicates go, but Sod's Law has taught me that the dull/badly framed/out-of-focus picture I threw out will be the precise one that my wife wants to see at because it was taken when we were on holiday with.....or when something obscure happened that she recalls and wants to know where it was or what date....
In the last year I will under-expose on a lot of shots on purpose.
Again like most folks are saying, "it depends"
OP, It is difficult to say "these shots I expose properly, these I under expose, these I will take between 2-20 shots from different perspectives..."
I have my off and on days like anyone else, but I can say I am normally a 50% keeper.
I am also of the mind that if I don't take the shot I don't have anything to keep or toss so I take a lot. I enjoy editing so there may be a reason I don't try to narrow it down precisely in the camera every single time. Editing (for me) is almost as much fun as pressing the button. Almost.
I have an Alaskan trip coming so this thread may have me paying more attention to my ratio
I realized when re-reading the entire thread that I actually had never answered the question! I tend to shoot a lot and keep a few..... Math is not my strong suit so I won't even attempt to offer a numerical figure or percentage. Sometimes I will spend an hour shooting one subject, approaching it from all angles, sides, above and beneath, experimenting to see which view is most interesting. Often when culling the images later I'll weed out most of them and only keep a few, and then even at that I'm likely to only process a couple from that group, anyway. Other times I'll see what I think might be a fun thing to shoot, and grab the camera and fire off a few shots.....only to later realize that none of them are really all that interesting after all. Definitely when I am taking the time to "work" a subject as opposed to just getting out and shooting something randomly and quickly, the chances are that there will be more keepers from the former as opposed to the latter. My preference really is the experience of shooting, as opposed to post-processing.
