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Razer Blade 2022 models.
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I simply can't justify this price for a Razer laptop. At all.
This thing is too expensive even when compared to mbp.
First off, Apple now even designs their own chips. Builds their own GPUs. Has their own OS, cloud and tons of other software. And has WAY better support and customer service.
Razer is cool for gaming. But for productivity? I guess it depends on what someone is doing. But MBP will have way better battery life, way better screen and it will run cooler and without fan noise.
For a gaming laptop, Razer is simply too expensive.
Of course, like always - it's only my subjective opinion. But 3000$+ for a laptop with a company with really lousy support? No thanks
This thing is too expensive even when compared to mbp.
First off, Apple now even designs their own chips. Builds their own GPUs. Has their own OS, cloud and tons of other software. And has WAY better support and customer service.
Razer is cool for gaming. But for productivity? I guess it depends on what someone is doing. But MBP will have way better battery life, way better screen and it will run cooler and without fan noise.
For a gaming laptop, Razer is simply too expensive.
Of course, like always - it's only my subjective opinion. But 3000$+ for a laptop with a company with really lousy support? No thanks
Based on my experience with my Razer Blade Pro 10th gen + 3080, I wouldn't recommend it to someone else.
What I don't like most is their lack of support, and total lack of software update. Pretty much only thing that get updated is Razer Synapse which is actually one of the most loathsome softwares I know (due forced online/log-in, worst being nzxt software).
I like its aesthetics, but Razer's iconic slim & powerful (and MacBook like in black) is getting old, and unlike few years ago, there are actually better gaming laptops which is as slim and powerful as Razer, and some even more powerful yet slim. You get to spend more then find out there's as slim laptop with higher tdp gpu & cpu with less noise.. what would you think?
What I don't like most is their lack of support, and total lack of software update. Pretty much only thing that get updated is Razer Synapse which is actually one of the most loathsome softwares I know (due forced online/log-in, worst being nzxt software).
I like its aesthetics, but Razer's iconic slim & powerful (and MacBook like in black) is getting old, and unlike few years ago, there are actually better gaming laptops which is as slim and powerful as Razer, and some even more powerful yet slim. You get to spend more then find out there's as slim laptop with higher tdp gpu & cpu with less noise.. what would you think?
How is their after sale service? In the past I considered to buy one via a local MS store but now all MS stores in the city are gone. I wonder if Razer could provide good support services.
In all honesty, I found their computers to be top notch but given how you need a high level of support, this computer is not for you.
Actually the 2021 MacBooks Pro's run great. The 16" MBP has no heating problems and while it does thermal throttle on default. If you ramp up the fan speed under load you will see no throttling.
The surface temps are cooler than previous Intel Macs. The video starts at 11:02. The base of the 16"/14" is plenty cool to use on a lap when under load and the top case can rest your arms comfortably.
Unlike previous Intel Macs where the bottom and keyboard deck got WAY too hot and the thermal throttled.
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seems to me that most companies run their support divisions the same, non helpful and very annoying.
Dell has no constructive advice from sales or trustworthy forum troubleshooting as apple which is sad.
when these RazerBlades do well on the market, maybe other PC manufactures will follow with their own
speed out interchangeable laptops and perhaps return the upgradable laptop like the ones we had in 2010
but with the latest chip speeds and battery life, would that be great!
Framework is there for that. But sadly battery life and heat is an issue. I would likely buy them only if I was after a Windows laptop.
If I recall correctly, you liked your X1 Extreme?
Apple made very nice 16" Macbook Pro 2021 hardware-wise but the problem is my applications only run in Windows or Linux. I can live without MacOS.
Problems with Lenovo laptops is their workstation class laptops always have bad backlight bleed and jet engine noise for no reason.
In terms of after sale services, which company is better? Razer or Lenovo?
I think you hit it on the head! Razer makes some really nice machines and they turned an entire industry from Eagles and RED keyboards, Red accents on the laptop and generally just looked ugly to a device that in terms of looks could go toe to toe with Apple yet have gaming performance.
BUT they cost just way too much! One time I justified spending the money on one and while it was beautiful and performed well there were some nagging issues and a feeling of I spent way too much. I get the same feeling with Apple products specially in the past! Their customer service is pretty bad......
If you need to return or get service on your laptop for warranty issue forget it-you might as well be on your own. I am not saying they do not honor their warranty but they don't make it easy. If after sale support with actual warranty issues is important to you go with Dell or HP, heck even Asus has better after sale support.
As for your use case your laptop seems worthy enough to keep a couple years and by then Intel should have caught up on process and have some interesting offerings hopefully by then. If you like Alderlake then I am sure in a year or two you will love what they release. In terms of raw power for gaming Alderlake looks like a pretty hefty upgrade and is exciting to see Intel punch back. I don't think you can go wrong if you get one now or wait. The only thing I would consider is inflation. Right now it is just starting to hit but in a year or two things could possibly be worse and your $3000 computer now will cost $4500 then. Waiting has its advantages and disavantages and of course who knows what is going to happen.
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That's wrong comparisonI simply can't justify this price for a Razer laptop. At all.
This thing is too expensive even when compared to mbp.
First off, Apple now even designs their own chips. Builds their own GPUs. Has their own OS, cloud and tons of other software. And has WAY better support and customer service.
Razer is cool for gaming. But for productivity? I guess it depends on what someone is doing. But MBP will have way better battery life, way better screen and it will run cooler and without fan noise.
For a gaming laptop, Razer is simply too expensive.
Of course, like always - it's only my subjective opinion. But 3000$+ for a laptop with a company with really lousy support? No thanks
Like you said Razer Blade is a laptop with gaming orientation
Macbook are NOT, they are not designed to be a gaming laptop although it could be powerful
For a gaming laptop, Razer is as expensive as the premium gaming brand such as Asus ROG and some others, its premium laptop gaming
The custom service and support from Razer are surprisingly good, i have been surprised by the online chat (much better than Apple and probably as good as Amazon)
Their customer service and warranty/rma is bit complicated and long process but it worth it
For the record, i bought a Razer Blade from us, and i was able to contact support (online chat) and customer service, i sent it back through Fedex to Germany (EU Razer), it took me about 2 weeks - 5 weeks, its damn long but it has been replaced 5 times (for backlight bleed/ips glow but its inherent no matter how many units you gonna exchange) by totally brand new Razer Blade. I was even about to negociate when they didnt have my model (Mercury wasnt avail at eu) and i paid the difference (200 eur) and get 2070 Super/240 hz over my previous 2060 Super/144 hz
I think if you are us resident, you wont deal with such delay, the customer service isnt as good as Apple but frankly who can compete with Apple, they have Apple Store/Genius Bar anywhere...
The Razer Blade itself is good gaming laptop, not the absolute best performance but somehow they managed to make a fairly good compromise between design/performance/noise/overheating
I ve seen many similarities between Macbook and Blade, its kind of similar, Macbook (before M1), werent the absolute the best (performance, battery life, noise wise) but its overall a better machine than many Windows competitor (if we exclude MacOS vs Windows debate)
Dont get me wrong, its still expensive though but that's because Razer shares some similarities (the good ones like the bad ones) AND due to the premium gaming laptop market (its niche market and their customer/users dont care about money)
EDIT: honestly, when i bought my Razer Blade, my initial impressions were like i was using a Macbook under Windows, and to be totally honest, i found the design of Blade better than Macbook. And before the Razer Blade, i got an Asus ROG Zephyrus which i paid similar price, it felt like a 500$ plastic laptop in comparison of Blade/Macbook (most parts were in metal but the overall feeling wasnt good imo)
If you are Apple fan/user and still want a gaming/windows laptop and you can afford it, Razer Blade are good choice
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Lenovo, by far a completely superior company, given that it supports the enterprise sector. As I said, for your needs, Razer would not be a good decision for you. Given how you needed a high degree of support and interaction with the support staff in the past, I'm not sure why you're thinking of Razer.
I love my Razer and their support has improved but for you and your priorities I don't see it as a good fit - just my opinion.
As I get close to entering year 4 with my MacBook Pro, I'm getting the itch to upgrade. For now I'm mostly entertaining the lowest end 15 Advanced and the upper stock MBP 14. Razer now has a 2 year battery warranty, which seems to be their biggest pain point. At least it's some kind of address for the issue. Those price hikes are rough though. Definitely don't save money going for a Razer.
Interesting review from the Hardware Canucks - I really do enjoy their reviews and videos. I will have to say they were spot on with their assessment, but there's a few surprises that I was unaware. The review unit they have (or the one they bought for the review - not sure which) was priced at 4,000 bucks
What surprised me, is that he totally said for gaming this laptop is not worth it by far. You can get better performing laptops (by a lot) for 1,300 dollars less. I guess the issue boils down to Razer setting the thermal limitations and power draws. They purposely limited how much power the cpu and gpu will draw which obviously impacts the temps. The temps are not bad at all. My current Razer floats in around the mid 70s when I game, which would translate to the "high" setting for the his laptop. The CPU is only drawing 45 watts at that setting. Application performance is very good, but as I mentioned the gaming benchmarks being shown in YT are what I would consider lackluster considering the GPU/CPU and price tag for this gaming laptop
I've already decided to pass on this model, anyways, which is a bummer, I do love the design but I don't love it enough to drop 3.5 to 4k
What surprised me, is that he totally said for gaming this laptop is not worth it by far. You can get better performing laptops (by a lot) for 1,300 dollars less. I guess the issue boils down to Razer setting the thermal limitations and power draws. They purposely limited how much power the cpu and gpu will draw which obviously impacts the temps. The temps are not bad at all. My current Razer floats in around the mid 70s when I game, which would translate to the "high" setting for the his laptop. The CPU is only drawing 45 watts at that setting. Application performance is very good, but as I mentioned the gaming benchmarks being shown in YT are what I would consider lackluster considering the GPU/CPU and price tag for this gaming laptop
I've already decided to pass on this model, anyways, which is a bummer, I do love the design but I don't love it enough to drop 3.5 to 4k
You have that - 4k display panels.
In fact the reviewer goes on to say the display is probably one of the best on the market. For 4,000 bucks, I would expect that as well.
For Gaming I gave up on Razer a while ago. Their prices are insane for the product they are delivering. Constricting wattage and poor thermals is not something new from them. Also the build quality at least a couple gens ago was not that great. The aluminum on the Botton of the device can easily be pushed in and mess with the fans. They try to cut too many corners and stuff a bunch of high end components without really doing the engineering to get the most out of them. Sure they may look nice but as the reviewer said they are getting dated and the keyboard layout sucks.
If you want something that looks nice and can perform IMHO Asus G15 and G14 are much better and the cost is more reasonable. Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, and MSI all make better performing devices for less money and some look really nice.
I would never recommend a Razor laptop to any serious Gamer but that is me and NO offense to anyone who likes Razor. These are just my experiences with Razor and other brands, YMMV!
If you want something that looks nice and can perform IMHO Asus G15 and G14 are much better and the cost is more reasonable. Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, and MSI all make better performing devices for less money and some look really nice.
I would never recommend a Razor laptop to any serious Gamer but that is me and NO offense to anyone who likes Razor. These are just my experiences with Razor and other brands, YMMV!
My son has 16.2ā HP Invictus with AMD 5000 processor and 16gb ram with 144hz ips display for just over $700. It is a great laptop and performs great for his games. Thermals are excellent. HP is one of my favorite OEMās!
Whups, I must have been looking at the wrong page. All I could see were HD and QHD displays.
Looks like there's going to be an 18" Razer Blade model introduced in coming months, hopefully something that will catch on in the industry - love the big screens!