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So, I don’t have an iPhone 13 Pro but an iPhone 13 Mini, and I must say today I’m very disappointed about the pictures and videos taken last night that all show these weird reflexions of everything illuminated:
I previously had an iPhone 6, goes to Disneyland Paris Christmas Season every year and I never saw anything like that on any photo ou videos. Sometime there have been some lens flare but THAT ?
I previously had an iPhone 6, goes to Disneyland Paris Christmas Season every year and I never saw anything like that on any photo ou videos. Sometime there have been some lens flare but THAT ?
Yeah I just went to theme park and 13 pro has hard time with this kind of multiple light sources at night. I have iphone 11 too and it looks more normal.
Here's a comparison of the standard camera app (left) versus FirstLight (right).
The sky was overcast most of the day with filtered light coming in from the left. The photos were taken immediately one after the other. I opened both on my mac, zoomed in to actual size and positioned them when I took this partial screenshot. FirstLight was used as default, without any film simulation on. Standard 26mm lens on both shots.
The left brow is OK with Apple, but the right one is a blur. Skin tone is not very pleasant for FirstLight, but actually more realistic than Apple's. I can see how Apple thinks this is going to appeal to more people, but I prefer a good base before applying effects. With FirstLight, I know base will be ok, then go for a Velvia/saturated/whatever look.
[EDIT] Just checked the metadata. Apple: 5,7mm/f1.5, 1/709s. FirstLight: 5,7mm/f1.4, 1/621s. So the shutter speed doesn't explain why the hair on the left side of the photo in Apple's shot seems to have motion unsharpness.
The sky was overcast most of the day with filtered light coming in from the left. The photos were taken immediately one after the other. I opened both on my mac, zoomed in to actual size and positioned them when I took this partial screenshot. FirstLight was used as default, without any film simulation on. Standard 26mm lens on both shots.
The left brow is OK with Apple, but the right one is a blur. Skin tone is not very pleasant for FirstLight, but actually more realistic than Apple's. I can see how Apple thinks this is going to appeal to more people, but I prefer a good base before applying effects. With FirstLight, I know base will be ok, then go for a Velvia/saturated/whatever look.
[EDIT] Just checked the metadata. Apple: 5,7mm/f1.5, 1/709s. FirstLight: 5,7mm/f1.4, 1/621s. So the shutter speed doesn't explain why the hair on the left side of the photo in Apple's shot seems to have motion unsharpness.
Same here - see my earlier post in this thread. The camera is doing some weird stuff and generating strange lens flare, and I have not seen that from an iPhone camera before.
Hopefully it can be improved in software.
Flare is caused by the exact construction and flaws of the lens and the precise angles of light passing through it for each image. Correcting it with software would require MORE processing, if it's even possible because each lens will be different with different micro flaws which contribute to flare. This has me really worried. It's a 'hardware' issue, unlike deep fusion and HDR 4 which could be turned off or toned down by the user if allowed by the gods at Apple.
A little lens flare can add character to an image but what I'm seeing in this thread is way beyond 'a little character'. It's making me rethink a 13 purchase. If my 8 dies, I just may look at finding a 12 pro.
I dont think Apple has opened enough functions in Xcode for other apps to be closed to Apple native photo app.
If you mean his iris (the blue part), yes, indeed. I hadn't even noticed that before.
In which way do you mean this precisely?
I'll be continuing to do side-by-side tests. I'm going to a winter lights festival in a few weeks' time, which should be interesting, with all these reports of flare in such situations. I'll also start using the FirstLight filters to see if they retain detail while making the skin tone less awful.
I meant the pupil, it should be circular but it looks like the iris has been processed at the detriment of the pupil's roundness.
It's a photo app by the guys at FilMiC, who made their fame with a film app: https://www.filmicpro.com/products/firstlight/
The same discussion has been going on in Apple Communities too. I have a 13ProMax and facing a similar problem. Pictures look over processed, over smoothened, like an oil painting. Something is really very wrong here. I hope its a sw fix! Feedback - iPhone - Apple, send your feedback here and hopefully they will listen! I am not into technical stuff, but my 11ProMax took much better pics.
LOL! I don’t see anything wrong here other than an uninteresting subject. Are you just pointing the camera and shooting the shot, or do you actually touch the screen to precise focus and make exposure adjustments? Most iPhone owners here aren’t trained photographers which results in badly executed shots. I’m beginning to think you guys are purposely looking for issues now. Your shot…jpeg or ProRAW? Edited or not?
My samples. ProRAW with Lightroom edits.
Dear colleague, I use iPhone from iPhone 4 ! And use the camera everyday till than. Don't tell me how to shoot on iPhone! This camera system is with awful results ! For your info I have DLSR camera too and know how to use it. But iPhone camera is not the same ! Your photos also have such issues and as soon as u open your eyes will be good. 10x.
Nice Photos!
I am one of those “guys” with terrible photo taking skills. Just don’t have an eye for it. Most of the photos I take are really blend, with bad angles. Lol. Quite sad actually.
Still I am impressed with the iPhone 13 Pro Max, best phone camera I ever had.
Below is a picture I took of a scary looking bug.
Had my iPhone pressed up against the window, on hindsight should probably have given myself more distance from the subject, it’s legs were blurry in the shot probably because of the natural bokeh from being too close or it could have been moving. Either way just a bad shot. Lol.
Still, I doubt I would have been able to capture it on my iPhone 12. No idea what bug it is, was attached to the outside of my window. looks to be about 1.5 cm in length. Scary stuff.
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Yeah I understand it not everybody has an eye for it that’s OK. I think that’s an assassin bug. I think it’s really cool having a macro mode on the iPhone like that to be able to take such cool shots up close. I bet you can go into the default editing app and raise the shadows up a little bit and see more of that bug‘s belly. If you’re interested in learning a little bit more about iPhone photography I think there’s some free stuff on the Internet like with iPhonephotographyschool.com and some other spots that would give you some tips and I’d be willing to help you myself if interested.Nice Photos!
I am one of those “guys” with terrible photo taking skills. Just don’t have an eye for it. Most of the photos I take are really blend, with bad angles. Lol. Quite sad actually.
Still I am impressed with the iPhone 13 Pro Max, best phone camera I ever had.
Below is a picture I took of a scary looking bug.
Had my iPhone pressed up against the window, on hindsight should probably have given myself more distance from the subject, it’s legs were blurry in the shot probably because of the natural bokeh from being too close or it could have been moving. Either way just a bad shot. Lol.
Still, I doubt I would have been able to capture it on my iPhone 12. No idea what bug it is, was attached to the outside of my window. looks to be about 1.5 cm in length. Scary stuff.
What the hell bug is that? Yikes!Nice Photos!
I am one of those “guys” with terrible photo taking skills. Just don’t have an eye for it. Most of the photos I take are really blend, with bad angles. Lol. Quite sad actually.
Still I am impressed with the iPhone 13 Pro Max, best phone camera I ever had.
Below is a picture I took of a scary looking bug.
Had my iPhone pressed up against the window, on hindsight should probably have given myself more distance from the subject, it’s legs were blurry in the shot probably because of the natural bokeh from being too close or it could have been moving. Either way just a bad shot. Lol.
Still, I doubt I would have been able to capture it on my iPhone 12. No idea what bug it is, was attached to the outside of my window. looks to be about 1.5 cm in length. Scary stuff.
I’m one of those point and shoot type of guys and my photos to me come out fine still but maybe I don’t have an eye what’s good or bad here are a couple of examples .. one was a live pic that i just did a long exposure and hit the magic wand in the native software
Yeah. Looks like they made the iPhone 13 pro camera system too good. Which results in poorer results for us amateurs 😂
PS some great shots there buddy. 👍🏼
Wow, I really like the detailing that Ferris wheel. That’s cool.
I’ve been a photographer for a long time and I know a lot about sensors and megapixels etc. I think some of the issues that y’all are talking about could be contributed to the fact that the new larger sensor in the iPhone 13 Pro Max has 1.9 µm diameter pixels. With pixels that large and spread out over a 12 mega pixel sensor, they pick up a lot of light but are sometimes too large to really bring in a lot of resolution and detail. If this were a 24 megapixel sensor with 1.7 µm diameter pixels, things would look a lot sharper and cleaner. On the professional level, I had a Nikon D3 which was a 12 megapixel camera and the pixels were pretty large for a full frame sensor, nearly 8 µm in diameter which is pretty big. Great for low light but not so good for distant detail and high resolution. Using a 50 mm lens I remember taking a photo of a tree and the leaves looked blotchy instead of like leaves just because it just didn’t have the resolution in detail and I think that’s kind of what we’re seeing with the iPhone wide camera. That’s the largest iPhone sensor ever and big pixels.