No, I bought the 13 (not pro) it at launch and returned after a few days, so didn't have chance to benefit from the 3rd party app research you and others have done since then.
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Proraw is very good and for those who aren’t happy with the way their photos look this is A great option if you can be bothered to edit
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iPhone 13 pro max portraits, taken in ProRaw using the moment app.
Lightroom edits.
Lightroom edits.
Why not? All of my photos get edited because I use ProRAW. What’s the point of taking photos if they aren’t going to be edited? This shows the full potential of the iPhone cameras. The topic is “Really bad photos”, well I’m providing evidence that the iPhone does not take really bad photos by going beyond the basic unedited “snapshot”. I understand that that many iPhone owners aren’t the best at photography, it can be intimidating at times for most. There are some who don’t want to edit their photos, but it sure helps the image when they are.
Maybe that’s why many say that their photos look so bad. Unedited photos are so basic looking, even if they are jpeg files. You still have to control your exposure, watch your highlights, focus properly, and make sure your shot doesn’t have a distracting background. Sorry, but I don’t do snapshots or mediocre photography. The iPhone cameras are fantastic…
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You are right. Maybe a *(not raws) must be added at the title, because the whole topic refers to iphones' ready jpegs.
your photos are great but I think point is many don't want to need to edit photos. many people just want to point and shoot and get great results to look back on. pro raw is really great but people don't always want to need to do this. certainly not all the time anyway
I can understand that I think… the thought of just pointing and shooting to come away with A great shot reminds me of reading people on other forums saying if they buy a $5000 camera, they will get better photos. Well, no. Any photo by any camera needs tweaking and editing weather raw or jpeg is used. There is no perfect camera out there including the top of the line Sony, Nikon, or Canon. In the hands of an amateur, the phots will not look any better than a point & shoot camera. The camera is just a tool, it’s the person holding it that’s responsible for making & taking great photos. I honestly think if everyone took the time to master every part of the iPhone camera and learn how it works, would come away with fantastic shots. I realize you want to rely totally on the iPhone to do all of the work for you, but you do have to put fourth some effort and skill. You still have to think of how the camera is going to “read the scene” and compensate for any mistakes the camera will make. The camera itself is actually dumb, the photographer has to control the camera to get the image he / she wants …In a photography class i took, point and shoot cameras were referred to as PHD cameras which stood for “push here dummy” by the instructors… pretty true and funny. The iPhone cameras are fantastic in my opinion, the technology is getting better as is the software.
But I have experienced the issue with Raw format to, and posted examples here.
The stock photo app and stock camera app are applying "AI" to the photos, and sometimes it really messes up the image. This mess seems to be a layer that is shown on the same photo when viewing Photos in MacOS and so on, but disappears when editing the photo.
In my experience it has improved with iOS updates, but sometimes it still messes up photos with stock camera app. Most other camera apps does not apply this, hence photos look better.
Makes sense to learn to use whatever equipment you have to its greatest advantage. I will also say that a decent photographer gets certain advantages with a decent camera over a phone camera in various instances. Today, I see less people wanting to capture real images but prefer "true to life" graphic images that are often not very accurate in portrayal. The latter is simply part of the digital world.
I've shared this before - one need not be a "good" photographer to be in the right place, right time and shoot. I think this was taken with an iPhone 5s. Btw, decades ago I made a living doing photography and graphic arts.
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There’s gotta be a way to turn this off. This was a throwaway pic I took of my dog to show how bad it is - super zoomed in. The iPhone saves it as basically a cartoon picture - it’s insane. Assuming it’s from the zoom but like man, this is unusable.
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The metering of the camera sensor has adjusted for the dark areas of the scene, therefore the bright areas (person on stage) is over exposed. If you go back to shoot more photos and video, you’ll have to adjust the exposure compensation to a -1 to -1.5 maybe a -2 to properly expose for the bright areas. Get some practice and get to know how the camera works. You should adjust the camera so it reflects what your eyes see, or at least close to what you see. I know the human eye has way more dynamic range than a camera does. But you should be able to get close.
This is why setting the videos exposure manually to get the best quality really helps. I use FilmicPro which has a lot of options and offers professional quality. In situations like this, you must expose for the highlights not the shadows to get a proper exposure of the person on stage. Don’t blame the camera, it’s doing what it’s supposed to do, which is averaging the entire scene. You’ll have to fine tune the exposure to your liking. Sorry but that’s they way it works…..
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Tap to refocus and readjust exposure... When you drive, do you also take your hands off the wheel and wonder why the auto industry failed you?
Honestly, I don’t know why no one has reported just how problematic the 13 Pro’s camera is. It does not want to use the telephoto lens at all. It’s broad daylight here in NYC and found a little slug in my garden to take a picture of. But my 13 Pro insisted on using the wide camera for a 3x shot in broad daylight instead of the telephoto and it produced this ugly thing. My XS never took such a lousy photo.
How close was the phone to the subject? The 3x cam is not able to focus as close as the main or the ultrawide camera...
Hmm I’d say no closer or farther than my old XS with its 2x telephoto. And I always tap to refocus if the phone isn’t doing it automatically. This 13 Pro just seems to not use the telephoto and 90% of the time switches to 3x digital zoom, then horribly oversharpens said photo to compensate for lost quality. I noticed this happens on my old XS as well, particularly in dim lighting, but the 2x digital zoom combined with the way it processes photos just looks better compared to this ‘oil painting’ effect that some have mentioned.
i've caught my phone doing this a few times, if something is "too close" (guessing around 3m, can't be bothered to measure it) it just crops in on the regular wide camera. it's annoying when i'm trying to take a "quick" photo with the default app. i just use moment now, the default camera is too finicky and the image processing is pretty excessive sometimes
I just got the new Alpine Green 13 pro max today… I’ll let you all know what the camera looks like on this one. Soon!
