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No sorcery here, you linked us to the seller’s profile when you quoted him in your previous post.

It is possible that the seller came into possession of the iPP in a way that they thought was legitimate only to have things go south on you the buyer after the sale. Hard to say.

As for them knowing the carrier the iPP was linked to isn’t that normally on the label on the back of the box? I don’t own the latest version of the iPP but my Verizon 2017 model’s box has the designation of what network it is tied to.

I have no idea how these blacklists work but perhaps things looked clear to the seller at first only to have the blacklisting occur later.

Absolutely no way to tell who the carrier is on the box, or by visually looking at the iPad. You’d have to break the seal, and power it on, then go to cellular settings and you’d see AT&T.

What is unbelievable is, AT&T advanced technical support actually unlocked this device for me over the phone within the first week of me owning it.

Still no reply from him on the PayPal claim. Should I copy and paste the eBay messages in to the PayPal claim ? Lol
 
Lol yes because stolen goods never get bartered /sarcasm

At best he bought goods he probably didnt know the history of, at worse he knowingly bought stolen goods.

Either way though, OP didnt buy “new”. If it was sold “as new” then the price was frankly to good to be true. Agree with the delay in AT&T logging the unit as stolen didnt help but only to be expected.
 
Lol yes because stolen goods never get bartered /sarcasm

At best he bought goods he probably didnt know the history of, at worse he knowingly bought stolen goods.

Either way though, OP didnt buy “new”. If it was sold “as new” then the price was frankly to good to be true. Agree with the delay in AT&T logging the unit as stolen didnt help but only to be expected.
Delay may not even be AT&T's fault. Some scammers only report devices as stolen (for insurance claim) after waiting a few months so buyer has already posted positive feedback and possibly may not be able request for refund.

Buyer likely did buy new (sealed in box). Problem was it was not from an authorized retailer.
 
Delay may not even be AT&T's fault. Some scammers only report devices as stolen (for insurance claim) after waiting a few months so buyer has already posted positive feedback and possibly may not be able request for refund.

Buyer likely did buy new (sealed in box). Problem was it was not from an authorized retailer.

The seller may have delayed as the OP has said that they are going through PayPal (so eBay window may have closed as I think that’s 30 days from date of delivery.) Buyers usually file eBay claims rather than PayPal but thankfully in this case, PayPal have a 180 day limit.

Buyers can always edit their feedback I believe and the OP said they were about to hit their perfect score.
 
I hope att can resolve it at 8AM this morning when they finally open the phone lines for customer service.

Then I’ll try PayPal..

And if that doesn’t work..

Then I’ll trip and break it in half, resulting in total incapacitation. And call Apple

Or make a durability test video!! Yes!

Forget calling PayPal. They can not help.
 
Alrighty then! AT&T told me that they could’ve helped me out if this iPad was blacklisted due to a bad account, or monies owed on device. They said they would’ve removed it from the blacklist with my proof of purchase. “This was not the case at all though” the item was not on a contract, and had zero balance. It was reported lost or stolen plain and simple.

It was never on a contract, and had no balance..

Yep! He got me!

I filed a claim on PayPal. I’m getting my $1,344 back.

I’ve dealt with something similar before “it usually works out for the buyer”. I’m about to hammer his perfect feedback. Yesterday was a nightmare when my data just went off while I was in the middle of something very important.

I’m thinking now... I’d rather just go in the apple store and hand over $1,699. I was so dead set on saving money lol. This is the first time to get jacked up on eBay haha.


Seen this before very common, while your purchase is legit. They guy bought it via financing made one or two payments and sold it. So while you had it it worked fine he was still making maybe a 3rd financing payment. And then he stopped and it take 2-3 months for At&t system to Flag the device and kill it. They got you good.
And it’s probably past the 60 Days you can file a chargeback or refund claim or it will be denied since it’s past 60 Days.
 
Absolutely no way to tell who the carrier is on the box, or by visually looking at the iPad. You’d have to break the seal, and power it on, then go to cellular settings and you’d see AT&T.

What is unbelievable is, AT&T advanced technical support actually unlocked this device for me over the phone within the first week of me owning it.

Still no reply from him on the PayPal claim. Should I copy and paste the eBay messages in to the PayPal claim ? Lol

It was carrier locked? I thought all iPads were unlocked.
 
Usually sides with the buyer? They look at both sides to see who has more credibility. Also depends on the team looking at the claim. Hopefully it gets sorted out the first time.
 
Having been scammed on Ebay years and years ago buying a phone, reporting it, and only getting back a tiny fraction of what I spent (because seller emptied account and took off before ebay even got involved)... and seeing posts like this over and over again, I set my limit to $100 as the MOST I'll ever spend on Ebay. I realize this post doesn't help the OP but damn... I know people who have gotten scammed and I see posts like this frequently enough, I would never recommend any >$100 purchase on Ebay to anyone I liked.
 
This guy is a jerk. I just don’t see how he thinks this is my problem and or AT&T’s problem...

If I bought a gun on gunbroker, and the serial number was shady or if the gun was reported stolen. I definitely wouldn’t contact the manufacturer of the gun, and I for sure wouldn’t contact the importer of the gun either “if applicable”... I would contact the seller, and hold him/her responsible. And I’d want my money back.

So, as to why he thinks that this is my problem, that I need to work with AT&T is beyond me...
 
I’m working with AT&T lost & Stolen, and also the fraud department. They might just remove it from the blacklist. Going good so far.
 
It was carrier locked? I thought all iPads were unlocked.
On older Pros, the Embedded Apple SIM was locked to AT&T if iPad was purchased from AT&T. Verizon, I believe the Embedded Apple SIM was disabled altogether if purchased from Verizon. Not sure if the same holds true for the latest eSIM Pros.

iPads purchased from Apple are all unlocked regardless of carrier plus the Nano SIM slot is always unlocked regardless of where it was purchased from (at least in US).
 
AT&T REMOVED MY IPAD FROM THE LIST! I cannot believe they actually did it. This iPad was brand new. And it was never on a contract, never on a payment plan. It was clean, and it was new..

My ipad’s data phone number from AT&T was linked to a old number from years before belonging to somebody else that had blacklisted devices, and it associated my number with someone else’s account and there system automatically blacklisted my IMEI.

AT&T Fraud department said 2-4 hours, and it’ll be removed from the blacklist.


YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA!,!!SNSHCNFNDMAKCNFNFUEUEBCBCJAKS CHFHD YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA
 
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I’m back in business with my pre-paid LTE. What a scare this has been.. luckily they removed it from the blacklist. And all is well. I dropped the PayPal claim, and apologized to the seller. The device was indeed brand new, and he was telling the truth the entire time.

Now very often something goes this well. I know myself and almost everyone on here probably thought my iPad Pro 1TB was not legit at all.

I guess it was.

 
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="tps3443, post: 27366117, member: 1163898"]I’m back in business with my pre-paid LTE. What a scare this has been.. luckily they removed it from the blacklist. And all is well. I dropped the PayPal claim, and apologized to the seller. The device was indeed brand new, and he was telling the truth the entire time.

Now very often something goes this well. I know myself and almost everyone on here probably thought my iPad Pro 1TB was not legit at all.

I guess it was.

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Do you know why AT&T Said its suspicious ? did u get right answer ?[/QUOTE]
 
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="tps3443, post: 27366117, member: 1163898"]I’m back in business with my pre-paid LTE. What a scare this has been.. luckily they removed it from the blacklist. And all is well. I dropped the PayPal claim, and apologized to the seller. The device was indeed brand new, and he was telling the truth the entire time.

Now very often something goes this well. I know myself and almost everyone on here probably thought my iPad Pro 1TB was not legit at all.

I guess it was.

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Do you know why AT&T Said its suspicious ? did u get right answer ?
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They just said there system flagged my IMEI number because my iPads data phone number that was randomly generated and gave to me, matched a old account with the same number with suspicious activity and several blacklisted devices. So, there system flagged my IMEI and blacklisted my device for reason of suspicious activity.

The fraud department saw that my number had nothing to do with this other old account belonging to someone else other than me, so they removed my IMEI from the blacklist.

She also made a very long detailed note in there system, to not blacklist my device and that it rightfully belongs to me, and that I use pre-paid service. And my device shouldn’t have ever been blacklisted to begin with.

I’m very lucky. I’ve never read about anyone getting devices removed from the blacklist.

So apparently all of this was just a big mistake, or a system error on AT&T’s behalf.

I recorded the entire conversation, going in to this call wanting to hear why it can’t be removed, and that it will NOT be removed. I would need this to back me up with my PayPal claim filed against the seller. But, little did I know that AT&T would actually remove it, and fix the issue (holy crap).. I’ve since dropped the claim. And I do not want my money back. I’m a legit buyer, I just want my iPad working on my pre-paid att as it should. Thankfully it is all resolved now.
[doublepost=1557967909][/doublepost]Oh and! I spent 9 hours on the phone with AT&T in total since I started this thread. It took some effort for sure.
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On older Pros, the Embedded Apple SIM was locked to AT&T if iPad was purchased from AT&T. Verizon, I believe the Embedded Apple SIM was disabled altogether if purchased from Verizon. Not sure if the same holds true for the latest eSIM Pros.

iPads purchased from Apple are all unlocked regardless of carrier plus the Nano SIM slot is always unlocked regardless of where it was purchased from (at least in US).

I am not sure if this even was tied to AT&T. When I first got it, looking in the cellular settings I only saw AT&T available on the apple sim as an option. But, I unlocked it which will unlock the apple sim and Esim “if applicable”. I then reset it with iTunes, and viola! Now in cellular settings it list all carriers available on the apple sim. So, it’s unlocked for both sims now.

Obviously my whole dilemma here was I was using the apple sim for att prepaid only as my go to option. I only wanted to use att pre-paid due to fast speeds, and unlimited data, it was the best option for me. But, when they blacklisted my iPad it really through a wrench in my gears.

Anyways, all is good now.

I recommend anyone who owns a 2018 iPad Pro that is a carriers iPad, to have it unlocked and reset it with iTunes and this will turn the device in to a fully fledged unlocked iPad just like one from apple would be. You can already use any carrier in the esim with a nano SIM card. But, unlocking it allows you to have or use any of these carriers on the built in apple sim too. And a new list of options is generated under “cellular settings add new plan”
 
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