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Retina Display: Chill Out

Mars478 said:
I'm not considering buying one till it has a Retina Display.

The iPhone 4 made the iPad Obsolete.

P.S. 128MB RAM? EW.
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You'll never own one.

Yea right :rolleyes:

Lil girls quit saying ew when they turn 15. It's also 256.

If you had 512, your leaky program would fill the 512 and you would still get the restart device message. (Thats for the appropriate poster, and it's non derogatory.)

iPhones resolution is only 960 x 640, but it's 3.5" so it has a high dot pitch. Are we gonna run quad video cards in our iPads to drive a 2700 x 1950 display? Then you will cry about the five minutes of battery life. Point is if you don't own one, we don't care. (And don't correct me on the exact resolution that it would be, cause I don't care and it's a guesstiment.)
 
It's funny. The one thing everyone agreed on when the iPad was launched was that the screen was amazing. Now three months later everyone says it sucks. Finicky world we live in.
 
an iPad with a display of 300ppi would require more than 2400x1800 pixels. does anyone really think a mobile device will have the resolution of a 30" Cinema in the near future?

an iPad has less need for a Retina display because you hold it farther away than a phone. moreover, phones don't use IPS panels.
 
Yeah, I've got one of those old 256MB iPads with no retina display (you might call it the "1st gen") and oddly enough the thing works great. Go figure.
 
Coukos34 said:
I've heard people say this but I have never (ever) sen this message before in any iOS device I have had. I don't mean to say that you are lying, In just have never seen this message. As far as I know, iOS automatically makes more room (memory) when needed, so I dont understand why you would need to reboot.

Anyway, whether the ipad could use the ram or not, is a moot point. Apple decided to be cheap and to unsure future upgrading as well as keep magins in line. We shouldnt be surprised. Besides, my GF's 3GS runs excellent on iOS 4.0, so I could imagine the ipad doing very well too. We need to remember that the ipad and iphone team were kept away from eachother. I expect iOS 4.0 to open up the ipad quite a bit. Hopefully its not wishful thinking
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Agreed, people also forget that the iPad has a faster processor than either iPhones. The ONLY complaint I have as far as RAM and the iPad go is that I wish web pages stay open longer without having to reload. This, though, I think can be fixed through software.
I also think iOS 4 will be an opener for the iPad, I mean why else would it be taking them so long?
 
Mars478 said:
I'm not considering buying one till it has a Retina Display.

The iPhone 4 made the iPad Obsolete.

P.S. 128MB RAM? EW.
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Really?!?

Try running an app like SketchBook Pro on an iP4. How about reading a book? Do you really prefer reading a book on an iP4 over an iPad? How about surfing the web? Do you really prefer surfing on an iP4 over an iPad.

Obsolete you say?

I say the iP4 has made the iPad necessary.
 
xraytech said:
Really?!?

Try running an app like SketchBook Pro on an iP4. How about reading a book? Do you really prefer reading a book on an iP4 over an iPad? How about surfing the web? Do you really prefer surfing on an iP4 over an iPad.

Obsolete you say?

I say the iP4 has made the iPad necessary.
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+1^
Although iP4 has a retina display,but iPad's screen still looks great,also watching vids,reading books and web-surfing is much more comfortable on the iPad.
 
MrWillie said:
You'll never own one.

Yea right :rolleyes:

Lil girls quit saying ew when they turn 15. It's also 256.

If you had 512, your leaky program would fill the 512 and you would still get the restart device message. (Thats for the appropriate poster, and it's non derogatory.)

iPhones resolution is only 960 x 640, but it's 3.5" so it has a high dot pitch. Are we gonna run quad video cards in our iPads to drive a 2700 x 1950 display? Then you will cry about the five minutes of battery life. Point is if you don't own one, we don't care. (And don't correct me on the exact resolution that it would be, cause I don't care and it's a guesstiment.)
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What he said...
 
xraytech said:
Really?!?

Try running an app like SketchBook Pro on an iP4. How about reading a book? Do you really prefer reading a book on an iP4 over an iPad? How about surfing the web? Do you really prefer surfing on an iP4 over an iPad.

Obsolete you say?

I say the iP4 has made the iPad necessary.
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Dude she (mars478) has an iPhone 3G listed. Doesn't have iPad or iPhone4, so what's her deal?
 
xraytech said:
Really?!?

Try running an app like SketchBook Pro on an iP4. How about reading a book? Do you really prefer reading a book on an iP4 over an iPad? How about surfing the web? Do you really prefer surfing on an iP4 over an iPad.

Obsolete you say?

I say the iP4 has made the iPad necessary.
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I think he should have said "the the iPhone 4's Retina Display made the iPad's obsolete."

I will agree with him completely if this was the case. The iPad is still advantageous to the iPhone due to it's size, but if screen quality is concerned, the iPad is old news. Sketchbook Pro, Brushes and iBooks will look awesome on a Retina Display.
 
donster28 said:
I think he should have said "the the iPhone 4's Retina Display made the iPad's obsolete."

I will agree with him completely if this was the case. The iPad is still advantageous to the iPhone due to it's size, but if screen quality is concerned, the iPad is old news. Sketchbook Pro, Brushes and iBooks will look awesome on a Retina Display.
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On a 3.5 inch display? Point is 9.7 inch 'retina's' don't exsist in real life, nor do we have the technology to drive one if they did exsist.
 
mixvio said:
"Retina display" is still one of the most valueless buzzphrases ever.
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Agreed.

Reminds me of back during the 2008 election when everybody thought that "ready for prime time" and "not ready for prime time" were actual phrazes that they needed to apply to everything.
 
Coukos34 said:
I've heard people say this but I have never (ever) sen this message before in any iOS device I have had. I don't mean to say that you are lying, In just have never seen this message. As far as I know, iOS automatically makes more room (memory) when needed, so I dont understand why you would need to reboot.

Anyway, whether the ipad could use the ram or not, is a moot point. Apple decided to be cheap and to unsure future upgrading as well as keep magins in line. We shouldnt be surprised. Besides, my GF's 3GS runs excellent on iOS 4.0, so I could imagine the ipad doing very well too. We need to remember that the ipad and iphone team were kept away from eachother. I expect iOS 4.0 to open up the ipad quite a bit. Hopefully its not wishful thinking
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When you get the message you don't have to reboot. It is like one of those popup messages that comes up and suggests it. As soon as I reboot though performance is 10 times better.

The other problem is that the way more ram is freed up automatically is by crashing out. It happens all the time when I am going through my social thing on we rule and visiting other kingdoms. It will crash out, I go back in, it crashes again in 5 minutes, then usually the next time in I get the warning about memory being low.

But I definitely think it has to do with the we rule and we farm apps in particular..they are just too addictive to stop playing.
 
toxic said:
an iPad with a display of 300ppi would require more than 2400x1800 pixels. does anyone really think a mobile device will have the resolution of a 30" Cinema in the near future?

an iPad has less need for a Retina display because you hold it farther away than a phone. moreover, phones don't use IPS panels.
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iPhone 4 uses an IPS LCD panel.

I have both an iPad and an iPhone 4.

The iPad is in desperate need of a resolution bump. After using my iPhone 4, all I see on the iPad is dots.

The iPad is in even more desperate need of iOS 4. The lack of multi-tasking is really killing the iPad for me. I use my iPhone 4 a lot more and have gone back to using my laptops as actual laptops because of the iPads lack of multi-tasking
 
mosx said:
iPhone 4 uses an IPS LCD panel.

I have both an iPad and an iPhone 4.

The iPad is in desperate need of a resolution bump. After using my iPhone 4, all I see on the iPad is dots.

The iPad is in even more desperate need of iOS 4. The lack of multi-tasking is really killing the iPad for me. I use my iPhone 4 a lot more and have gone back to using my laptops as actual laptops because of the iPads lack of multi-tasking
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Jailbreak and install Backgrounder. Then you can multitask. What is present in iOS4 is not multitasking.

Seeing dots? Sometimes I swear people look for things to complain about.

I would personally enjoy a resolution bump in the iPad display just for more screen real estate. I don't care about pixel density. I am happy with my iPad as it is right now, though.
 
toxic said:
an iPad with a display of 300ppi would require more than 2400x1800 pixels. does anyone really think a mobile device will have the resolution of a 30" Cinema in the near future?

an iPad has less need for a Retina display because you hold it farther away than a phone. moreover, phones don't use IPS panels.
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EXACTLY!!!! Everyone complaining that they NEED a retina display on the iPad is the typical dot who THINKS they know tech, but in reality just looks at a spec sheet and thinks that higher numbers automatically mean better...

There is ZERO need for a retina display on the iPad....

The cost to produce a panel that size and that pixel density would be outrageous and would require seriously more CPU and gpu horsepower, with more heat and more power draw... And you wouldn't event tell the difference unless you hold the iPad right up to your face...

Funny, I read books on my iPad just fine and the text doesn't look fuzzy at all...

As far as the RAM on the iPad.... Would it have been better to have 512? Sure... But it's not like the device doesn't work just fine with 256... It amazes me how spoiled we've become, and how bloated software has gotten... My top of the line desktop machine 10 years ago barely had 512mb, and now people are complaining that a handheld table built around a very efficient embedded os cant live comfortably in 256???
 
mixvio said:
Jailbreak and install Backgrounder. Then you can multitask. What is present in iOS4 is not multitasking.

Seeing dots? Sometimes I swear people look for things to complain about.

I would personally enjoy a resolution bump in the iPad display just for more screen real estate. I don't care about pixel density. I am happy with my iPad as it is right now, though.
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Yeah, I know, iOS 4 doesn't offer "true" multi-tasking. But it works 10x better than Backgrounder. Using Backgrounder generally makes the entire setup unstable and forces the OS to work in a way it wasn't designed to work.

The fast app switching in iOS 4 is fantastic. It creates the illusion of multi-tasking and lets me pick up exactly where I left off in apps. And its perfectly stable, unlike Backgrounder.

With iOS4 I can switch between apps quickly without ever having to actually leave apps. With backgrounder I still have to leave the app, find the one I want, open it. It slows things down dramatically.

And those who are against a resolution bump on the iPad or say "theres no need" have never used an iPhone 4. The screen is gorgeous. It really puts the iPad to shame. The app that would benefit the most from a resolution bump is iBooks. If that had the same pixel density as the iPhone 4 it would be the ultimate eReader.
 
2002cbr600f4i said:
EXACTLY!!!! Everyone complaining that they NEED a retina display on the iPad is the typical dot who THINKS they know tech, but in reality just looks at a spec sheet and thinks that higher numbers automatically mean better...

There is ZERO need for a retina display on the iPad....

The cost to produce a panel that size and that pixel density would be outrageous and would require seriously more CPU and gpu horsepower, with more heat and more power draw... And you wouldn't event tell the difference unless you hold the iPad right up to your face...

Funny, I read books on my iPad just fine and the text doesn't look fuzzy at all...

As far as the RAM on the iPad.... Would it have been better to have 512? Sure... But it's not like the device doesn't work just fine with 256... It amazes me how spoiled we've become, and how bloated software has gotten... My top of the line desktop machine 10 years ago barely had 512mb, and now people are complaining that a handheld table built around a very efficient embedded os cant live comfortably in 256???
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Just curious: have you seen the iPhone 4 screen?
 
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