If you don't mind me asking, what apps/tools do you use that the M1 isn't able to handle (memory wise)?
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Returned the M1 MacBook Pro - 1st generation not ready
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If you don't mind me asking, what apps/tools do you use that the M1 isn't able to handle (memory wise)?
> It doesn't feel right - It's a Pro with the same chip as my 2021 iPad 11" and MacBook Air. It just doesn't feel like a pro device and different to the others in the product line.
To be honest I don’t really see how that matters.
It sounds like you’re the type of person who should be waiting for the 14 inch Apple Silicon MacBook Pro.
To be honest I don’t really see how that matters.
It sounds like you’re the type of person who should be waiting for the 14 inch Apple Silicon MacBook Pro.
Most of the other complaints are fine honestly, especially concerning emulation. power, and support for more monitors but the one about the same chip also being in an iPad and the MacBook Air is laughable, OP. It seems condescending.
This reeks of "I'm better than those peasants, I paid for a pro because I am a pro, my computer says Pro, so give me something they don't get so I can feel better about myself because I'm special". Whether or not that was your intention, that is the vibe you are putting off and should be cognizant of that I feel. If you NEED that power, fine, but being upset just because other people get to enjoy the same chip as you in products that happen to be cheaper? That's a problem.
Who cares if the chip is in 3 different products! It's the other features and specs and design that make people pick one or the other. Need a powerful tablet form factor - iPad Pro. Need an ultrathin - MBA. Need a MBP with a bigger battery, better screen, and touch bar - MBP. It's those things that drive what you go for. Not some exclusive Pros only club BS!
The claim about RAM I would personally disagree with but is very subjective. I came from a 32GB system. RAM in a M1 Mac is very different to RAM in an Intel Mac. With the time I've spent with M1 machines, 16GB of unified memory behaves closer to 32GB RAM and 8GB of unified memory behaves closer to 16GB RAM. It's not exactly 1:1 but it's very close. It does more with less somehow. The claims about more monitor support and having to use Rosetta 2 and wanting a new design are valid. My only beef is with the way the bit about the chip being in other products was said. You said you needed more power which is valid, but the bit about being upset because you want that exclusivity was ick.
This reeks of "I'm better than those peasants, I paid for a pro because I am a pro, my computer says Pro, so give me something they don't get so I can feel better about myself because I'm special". Whether or not that was your intention, that is the vibe you are putting off and should be cognizant of that I feel. If you NEED that power, fine, but being upset just because other people get to enjoy the same chip as you in products that happen to be cheaper? That's a problem.
Who cares if the chip is in 3 different products! It's the other features and specs and design that make people pick one or the other. Need a powerful tablet form factor - iPad Pro. Need an ultrathin - MBA. Need a MBP with a bigger battery, better screen, and touch bar - MBP. It's those things that drive what you go for. Not some exclusive Pros only club BS!
The claim about RAM I would personally disagree with but is very subjective. I came from a 32GB system. RAM in a M1 Mac is very different to RAM in an Intel Mac. With the time I've spent with M1 machines, 16GB of unified memory behaves closer to 32GB RAM and 8GB of unified memory behaves closer to 16GB RAM. It's not exactly 1:1 but it's very close. It does more with less somehow. The claims about more monitor support and having to use Rosetta 2 and wanting a new design are valid. My only beef is with the way the bit about the chip being in other products was said. You said you needed more power which is valid, but the bit about being upset because you want that exclusivity was ick.
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Yeah I didn’t wanna take it that far but you’re right and if you ARE gonna be that sort of person you should at least have an 8 TB 16 incher (and post YouTube videos about it where you mention how much it costs multiple times at regular intervals throughout the video).
Sorry to hear that, but to me it sounds like the machine just didn’t quite fit your needs. I hope the next lineup of Macs will suit you better.
Unlike buying an iPad Pro, buying a MacBook with a whole new architecture ain’t easy decisions, and there’s gonna be even more trade offs and road blocks than 64bit transition back in Catalina days. Apple throws out legacy support like hot potatoes. The only one that benefits from this transition are people who are always in the bleeding edge or those extremely casual users. Everyone else will have some gatchas and dealbreakers. Me, even today, still could not figure out a way to install High Sierra on M1 MacBook Air using parallel desktop, assuming that is at all possible.
I seriously doubt apple will improve the legacy support situation at all given that’s not part of their DNA. It’s fine, but users like me are going to work harder and harder just to keep our favourite/critical applications running for as long as possible.
I seriously doubt apple will improve the legacy support situation at all given that’s not part of their DNA. It’s fine, but users like me are going to work harder and harder just to keep our favourite/critical applications running for as long as possible.
Shirasaki you’ve reacted to multiple posts I’ve made recently with the angry emoticon it’s not offensive to me but do you realize that I am basically a stupid irreverent troll who should never be taken seriously
Wear it as a badge of honor to get laughing or angry reactions! I do. Some people take themselves too seriously and need to be brought down back to earth. What goes up must come down, and that includes the ego of some posters here! Be it they fall of their pedastal or someone like me knocks it down with reality and frank comments. The disagree reaction, fine. It's legitimate. But angry or laughing reactions are from people who think too much of themselves and need to let you know how they feel because they think they are important enough to do so. Narcissism is rampant now.
I'm not trolling, however. But if you make a real post about something and you get something other than agree or disagree reactions, someone is a little full of themselves. Like/dislike. The shock/sad/angry/laughing reacts are childish.
People would dislike like normal person if only macrumors forum does not add limits on how many dislikes you can cast per day.
That's an interesting idea.
Likes (and the other reactions) would mean a lot more if they were very limited on a daily/weekly/monthly basis and you had to more judiciously use them.
Lot of users equate their CPU and product name to its worth…or maybe their own. All this grousing about how the M1 is used in 5 different Apple products, but the product name is the showstopper?!? SMH.
Intel has done a great job of creating completely artificial segmentation that may never be undone.???
Intel has done a great job of creating completely artificial segmentation that may never be undone.???
I'm not sure what that limit is as I've never ran into it, but if it's generous perhaps question why you'd be disliking so many posts. They can't all be wrong. If the alloted amount of dislikes on posts is 15/20 a day, and you are hitting that, well I don't know what to tell you then.
Frankly I don't feel the need to like or dislike every post I agree or disagree with. If it's in strong (dis)agreement, sure.
You’re probably right but now I’m starting to feel like Shirasaki marking everyone’s post with the the angry face is kind of iconic
I don’t know the exact limit either. Just 10 or 15 or so. But not a huge number. “Angry” on the other hand is unlimited. Some substitute “angry” as “disagree” as “disagree” is not available everywhere.
Besides the point, one can be more judicial with their likes and dislikes. One just like/dislike everything he/she sees. Frankly there’s nothing wrong with that.
Too off topic so I’ll stop here.
The fact that it shares a processor with the iPad Pro is completely irrelevant to your argument and shows that your perception is being influenced by a bias.
I too have returned a M1 MBP simply because in my case it could not work with dual screens with a display link dock in any other resolution than 1920x1080 with a 4k display. There are many threads on the subject on here relating to the limitations of the M1 and ability to perform sub-integer scaling effectively. There are many more trying to resolve how to get non-blurry fonts out of the M1 even when direct connected with 4/5k screen. There are so many attempts to try and get the M to treat displays as RGB and needing to edit and change Plists etc. I think all of this supports the original posters view about the external screens being an issue for a M1. In the end i returned the M1 and went back to a 2017 MBP that performs with external monitors and delivers what I need for work. Maybe the next generation may fix the external display issue but I will not be rushing in.
Good to hear that. My wife has an mac air 2017 vintage with 4 G of Ram. she was talked into not more by her sister. Any way she is an online teacher and will need a new one. I am holding out for the M1 chip in something bigger that a 13 inch display and hoping by fall there is one that is good. For me , after I pay off my new iphone, I am going to upgrade to a new imac with the m1 in it, but that is going to take some time. Perhaps both are a good idea to wait and see how the hardware works out over time and what the OS does.
I've never returned a computer, phone, tablet or other electronic device except for bluetooth headsets which were defective. I usually spend many months looking at products before making a purchasing decision. I think that I've returned only one or two things to Amazon in my 20 years as a customer.
I am simply too lazy to repackage and then drive to the post office or the shipping company.
I am simply too lazy to repackage and then drive to the post office or the shipping company.
I used that 2016 13” MBP as my work computer for three years. It was a surprisingly fast and capable machine, far better performance-wise than the on paper specs would suggest. Also, it ran cool enough so there was almost no fan noise! The newer quad core 2020 replacement model on the other hand, was terrible.
Is this true? I guess I never bother to dislike anything - I only send positive reinforcement unless absolutely necessary.
Yes. It is. I hit it from time to time.
Not just that, it doesn’t appear all the time. This post, for example, don’t have dislike to cast.
Same here. I always tell myself I'm going to return something, but almost never do. Then I tell myself I'll just sell it and recover a bit of my losses. I rarely get around to that either.
I just returned a working computer for the first time ever. Apple made it easy, but it felt pretty weird. They don't ask any questions and I had to resist the urge to tell them why.
21 years in a Cybersecurity....in a clerical position? If not you just stated you have over two decades in netsec/netadmin yet almsot no idea how to select a laptop based on use case. This sounds all too suspect.
Regardless, the 13" pro or air M1 is about as SFF as it gets and also aren't going to replace any loaded M5's.