iPad Pro Returning 2021 iPad Pro 12.9”

[Apple_Robert]

Maybe, but I expected M1 to have a bigger impact on my use case, which it hasn’t yet. It may down the road but I think I will save the grand in the meantime.

I will keep the white keyboard though!

Why did you expect that? The same apps you were running on the 2018 run the same on the new model. The only thing that really changed at this point in time is the screen.

I think you got caught up in forum hype and bought the new iPad in spite of already knowing what you posted about here.

 

[jbachandouris]

You make me feel better about keeping my 2020 11" as it isn't even said off yet. Maybe I'll change my mind in a few months.

 

[Ludatyk]

You make me feel better about keeping my 2020 11" as it isn't even said off yet. Maybe I'll change my mind in a few months.

There’s no compelling reason to upgrade thus far… the performance is there, but it’s hindered by iPadOS. We all are awaiting WWDC and I’ve upgraded to 2021 12.9 iPP… my order arrived today. But haven’t committed to keeping it… it’s still unopened. i listen to Jason Snell of Upgraded Podcast and he made an excellent point.

My mind has been on how Apple could potentially bring Mac apps to the iPad with the introduction of the M1, but his thought process was on the RAM. He was thinking of how apps can stay in memory… that there is something behind that.

 

[AutomaticApple]

Weird you bought it in the first place being as though each of these things clearly hadn’t changed with the new release.

FOMO I assume?

 

[Adelphos33]

Weird you bought it in the first place being as though each of these things clearly hadn’t changed with the new release.

This is a fair point, but look at it this way

I had a early 2020 Intel MacBook Air. The 2021 M1 MacBook Air is a massive improvement in speed, performance, and usability in everyday use.

I have a 2018 iPad Pro. The 2021 M1 IPad Pro is less of a massive improvement in performance, very incremental in fact. It is an improvement, but less so.

I paid $650 in net cost for my 2021 M1 Macbook Air ($800 trade in, $1,449 for the computer)
I paid $870 in net cost for my 2021 iPad Pri ($530 trade in, $1,399 for the iPad)

Agruably, the iPad I traded in (2018 iPad) is a better device than the Macbook I traded in (Intel MacBook Air)

It’s just a frustration with the relative cost and performance of the devices more than anything

 

[Surfman]

Over my dead body lol

 

[pcorrado]

This is a fair point, but look at it this way

I had a early 2020 Intel MacBook Air. The 2021 M1 MacBook Air is a massive improvement in speed, performance, and usability in everyday use.

I have a 2018 iPad Pro. The 2021 M1 IPad Pro is less of a massive improvement in performance, very incremental in fact. It is an improvement, but less so.

I paid $650 in net cost for my 2021 M1 Macbook Air ($800 trade in, $1,449 for the computer)
I paid $870 in net cost for my 2021 iPad Pri ($530 trade in, $1,399 for the iPad)

Agruably, the iPad I traded in (2018 iPad) is a better device than the Macbook I traded in (Intel MacBook Air)

It’s just a frustration with the relative cost and performance of the devices more than anything

Somewhat off topic, but when you returned it, how did they address the trade in credit? Was is just a credit to your credit card or did you get a gift card?

 

[Macalway]

I hope you enjoyed your trial period. Come on back now .

 

[JCCL]

This is arguably even more drastic, true desktop class soc, massive ram increases, vastly improved screen tech. There’s a lot more potential here now than just a redesign (as beautiful as it was)

Except for most users, that won't make much of a difference. The redesign did change a lot of the user experience

 

[Johnny907]

Yup, taking mine back tomorrow. I mostly use mine for proofing photos and light editing, and neither of those run any faster on the M1 than my 2018. Not sure if that is a compliment to the 2018 chipset, or an indictment of how crippled these things are by iPadOS. Either way, a slightly better front facing camera is not worth expense.

 

[Caviar_X]

My iPad is the best thing I bought all year.

 

[LaloG]

I'm definitely keeping mine. It's my first iPad ever. I will mostly be using it for watching movies, web surfing, e-mail, etc. I plan to learn how to use Lightroom to edit photos of my kids and for watching cooking videos in the kitchen while I learn to cook new meals (my hobby). I decided on the new 12.9 because of the Costco deal ($949 + tax) after discounts.

 

[MrEcted]

I think you got caught up in forum hype and bought the new iPad in spite of already knowing what you posted about here.

That's part of the fun with being on the internet, we all get into each other's heads! A new product comes out, a bunch of us will treat it like Jesus Christ himself has descended from the heavens and bestowed upon us a beautiful gift so we convince a bunch of other people to buy this crap that none of us really needs.

Then a few days later some of us will discover a tiny issue (or non-issue) and that product that was once blessed by Christ himself suddenly becomes a steaming hot pile of garbage, so a bunch of us will get into each other's heads and suddenly we regret buying the thing we didn't really need in the first place.

Then we fight about it until the next product is released and we do it all over again!

 

[doboy]

This is a fair point, but look at it this way

I had a early 2020 Intel MacBook Air. The 2021 M1 MacBook Air is a massive improvement in speed, performance, and usability in everyday use.

I have a 2018 iPad Pro. The 2021 M1 IPad Pro is less of a massive improvement in performance, very incremental in fact. It is an improvement, but less so.

I paid $650 in net cost for my 2021 M1 Macbook Air ($800 trade in, $1,449 for the computer)
I paid $870 in net cost for my 2021 iPad Pri ($530 trade in, $1,399 for the iPad)

Agruably, the iPad I traded in (2018 iPad) is a better device than the Macbook I traded in (Intel MacBook Air)

It’s just a frustration with the relative cost and performance of the devices more than anything

iPad Pros will never win in value proposition.

 

[richinaus]

Why did you expect that? The same apps you were running on the 2018 run the same on the new model. The only thing that really changed at this point in time is the screen.

I think you got caught up in forum hype and bought the new iPad in spite of already knowing what you posted about here.

I totally disagree. I have the 2018 model and now the 2021 [1tb version]

The same apps in my use so far, are awesome and a totally improved experience in terms of speed, colour, fluidity of use etc.

It depends what you are using it for - mine is for content creation and already, after an hour or so, there is no way this is getting returned.

edit - actually I am going to up my assesment - this is ipad friggin AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[jimmy_uk]

Did Apple make a mistake releasing these ipads ahead of iPadOS 15?

It reads like there is disappointment that the new ipads don't feel any faster/powerful over the last two models, but that should be expected while Apps and the current OS haven't been enhanced for the M1. Chicken and egg I guess.

 

[maflynn]

1) Move front facing camera to the top of the iPad when in landscape more, or simply add another camera
2) Improve both front facing and rear facing camera is to iPhone quality
3) Exclusive external display support, additional ports, etc
4) New, more flexible multitasking support
5) New files app

Interesting suggestions, my take on them

1. i'm not sure having a camera on the side of the iPad (when in portrait mode) is a something I'd want. Yes, that's what happens when holding it in landscape but I think for many people they hold it in portrait but then use it in landscape when its not being held. The bezels on the side may also not accommodate a camera, and may require a thickening of those bezels which no one wants.

2. I thought one of the improvements of the new IPP is the front facing camera

3. I think Apple is all about wireless and adding a port is counter to their design language. Plus how many people would actually take advantage of that? Probably a tiny percentage imo, so why add more complexity, circuitry to an already crowded internal space. It really won't benefit the rank and file of iPad users.


Suggestions 4 and 5 are software and we may see improvements in the coming releases, who knows, and having more flexible files and multitasking will be a plus

 

[tivoboy]

I just learned from Apple that I have until next Friday to send my device back if I want to keep the current iPad Pro, so I will test a bit more the next few days

Caution that your return window for the TRADE IN is not the same as the return window for the new device. You MIGHT have only till mid to end of THIS week to get the trade in moving.

 

[Kylo83]

ive returned mine, its not worth it for a big iPhone

 

[sparksd]

I’m


I can always re-buy when the machines are shipping with iPad OS 15 if it makes sense

Also, remember 2018 was a drastic change / improvement in form factor (smaller footprint due to slimmer bezels, flat edges, new and better pencil, etc)

Yeah, the 2018 change to form factor is what got me to the 12.9. I don't see the changes this year to be enough to get me to upgrade.

 

[Adelphos33]

Caution that your return window for the TRADE IN is not the same as the return window for the new device. You MIGHT have only till mid to end of THIS week to get the trade in moving.

I think I have until next week. I will decide today - I worked from home for the first time today and having the new iPad has been a bit of a treat in terms of apps remaining in memory in the background.

 

[rumz]

iPad Pros will never win in value proposition.

A) value is relative to the user, I suppose. But B) They might win that value proposition for some if Apple would just let us dual boot and run MacOS Which.... to your point... will not happen The best "value proposition" for Apple is for us to buy as many devices as possible

 

[Momof9]

Mine definitely WINS in value - ie as a graphic designer / artist....

 

[rui no onna]

iPad Pros will never win in value proposition.

Depends on how you quantify value.

If I convert the purchase price of my devices to hourly wages based on hours used throughout their service life, iPads would have the lowest hourly rates despite having high price tags (usage is 80-90% iPad, 5-10% phone, 5% PC).

 

[AutomaticApple]

ive returned mine, its not worth it for a big iPhone

You're stuck in 2010.