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Didn’t we do this already?

i think it was a product announcement when it was last posted, it's an affiliate thing so people just have to deal with occasionally seeing a post like it.

i was given one of the standard ember mugs as an xmas gift last year. i'd never have bought one for myself, as it seems too indulgent for a fairly insignificant "problem" (beverage getting cold.)

it was actually a nice gift. i dont love it for coffee, as i'd rather just finish the coffee sooner than keeping it long enough to stay warm. for tea, it's a really nice thing to have.

again, i think it's fun as a gift, and pretty unique. to just buy for oneself...not quite as appealing. it's a really expensive mug with a feature no one really "needs"
 
Well, for one thing, you wouldn’t normally microwave coffee that is already at the correct temperature, so the reheat concept is entirely different than maintaining heat.

This simply maintains a constant temperature, much like the Burnout. The process may be more complicated, but the concept isn’t.
Sorry but the physics disagree with you. The Ember is a relatively poorly insulated mug that allows the coffee to lose heat fairly quickly and then adds heat using electrical energy; quite uncomplicated. Just like a microwave, the Ember simply reheats coffee after it has fallen below a desired temperature.

Small heat element(s) and tight thermostat range may mean the Ember provides slow heating in a small range, but it is still adding heat, which my past experience says wrecks coffee flavor. You say that heat added so "gently" means flavor is not wrecked, and I have not taste-tested to suggest otherwise.

A phase-change cup like the Burnout does not add any heat; zero. It starts with a well-insulated cup containing a material that phase-changes its heat of fusion in the desired drinking temp range. Only the original heat of the coffee enters the cup, and when the heat is all gone the coffee is at room ambient temp.

We agree that either approach maintains coffee within a small temperature range. But in both cases it is a range, not constant. And one approach requires adding electrical energy, cannot go in a dishwasher and costs ~$200. The other approach is passive, dishwasher-safe and costs less than $100.
 
Why would I want to drink three hours old coffee? That’s disgusting to say the least.
Why? Because you are working and it is inefficient to stop and grind/brew beans every time you want a cup of coffee; kept in an airtight container three hours old coffee is not disgusting. It is far better than packaged-last-year Maxwell house, Keurig or similar.
 
I am laughing so hard right now at how particular and serious everyone in this thread is about their coffee/tea. I mean, I get it, but this entire thread could be a featured exhibit in an encyclopedia entry on First World Problems. 😂

It's not about keeping your drink as hot as possible for as long as possible. It's about maintaining a flat temperature curve over time so your first sip is the same temp as your last, and both are in a precise range for optimal enjoyment. Show me a "regular thermos" that, shortly after pouring, keeps a drink exactly 139 degrees (my favorite temp) for 3 hours straight. The article explains this fairly well:
 
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Price is too high. Wonder how many will actually buy this
I'm thinking about buying one for my wife, who loves coffee but would never spend more than $20 on a travel mug. After she uses it a few days, I'll ask her how she likes it. I'm sure the answer will be, "Nothing special, but it's OK."

Then I'll ask her how much she thinks it cost. 🤣
 
Can I just check here?

Many years ago, I used to take milk in my tea and coffee. And, well before it became cold, the milk scum would form, and the texture of the drink became pretty disgusting. Indeed, I used to drink it too hot in order to avoid that!

That was a part of the reason I gave up milk in hot drinks. And, once I had done so, I realised how much nicer they were without (assuming good choices of the actual tea or coffee).

Does anyone use an Ember, or a Burnout, and take milk? Does the drink really stay acceptable?
 
Sorry but the physics disagree with you. The Ember is a relatively poorly insulated mug that allows the coffee to lose heat fairly quickly and then adds heat using electrical energy; quite uncomplicated. Just like a microwave, the Ember simply reheats coffee after it has fallen below a desired temperature.

Small heat element(s) and tight thermostat range may mean the Ember provides slow heating in a small range, but it is still adding heat, which my past experience says wrecks coffee flavor. You say that heat added so "gently" means flavor is not wrecked, and I have not taste-tested to suggest otherwise.

A phase-change cup like the Burnout does not add any heat; zero. It starts with a well-insulated cup containing a material that phase-changes its heat of fusion in the desired drinking temp range. Only the original heat of the coffee enters the cup, and when the heat is all gone the coffee is at room ambient temp.

We agree that either approach maintains coffee within a small temperature range. But in both cases it is a range, not constant. And one approach requires adding electrical energy, cannot go in a dishwasher and costs ~$200. The other approach is passive, dishwasher-safe and costs less than $100.
I fully agree with your final paragraph. But conflating a microwave with a small heat element cup is truly bizarre, as there is no “small temperature range” control with a microwave. “Just like a microwave, the Ember simply reheats coffee after it has fallen below a desired temperature” makes little sense, as the cup would logically prevent the coffee from from falling below the desired temperature, as that can be done with a small heat element and a thermostat, and, this being a battery powered device, is more energy efficient than letting the temperature drop and reheating.
 
Americans drink one single coffee for hours??? Maybe don't make a gallon but cup by cup whenever you feel the need for one. Or maybe drink a few espressi if its just for the caffeine kick?
 
It seems odd to pay 200 bucks for an electronic cup that holds liquid at a fixed temperature for a long time in a world supposedly moving away from excessive electronic garbage. The number of people who would need the same beverage held at the same temperature for extended periods is surely a niche market, and who are probably happy to pay a barista to make a fresh cup every 3 hours anyway. Perhaps they’re already working on the next contraption that keeps toast at the same temperature for extended periods too.
 
I fully agree with your final paragraph. But conflating a microwave with a small heat element cup is truly bizarre, as there is no “small temperature range” control with a microwave. “Just like a microwave, the Ember simply reheats coffee after it has fallen below a desired temperature” makes little sense, as the cup would logically prevent the coffee from from falling below the desired temperature, as that can be done with a small heat element and a thermostat, and, this being a battery powered device, is more energy efficient than letting the temperature drop and reheating.
So if it doesn’t let the temperature drop then it must be constantly heating 100% of the time, yes?
 
My wife has one and loves it. She takes forever to drink a cup of coffee. It’s perfect for her use case and keeps the temp exactly correct.
 
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I am laughing so hard right now at how particular and serious everyone in this thread is about their coffee/tea. I mean, I get it, but this entire thread could be a featured exhibit in an encyclopedia entry on First World Problems. 😂
This is so true 😂 I’m proud to be an American, where at least I know I’m spoiled!
 
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> The Ember Travel Mug 2 is $200, and the reason it's so expensive is because it's self-heating.
Yeah, sure.
I personally can't wait for the $300 Travel Mug 3 with Find My Money integration.
 
One born every minute I guess
LOL. I love my Ember Mug. Im sorry that $200 is out of your price range although I have an Ember 1 which was around $135. I use it literally every day.. I could also drive a $20,000 car that woudl provide pretty much the same functionality of my $120,000 car.
 
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My grandmother leaves her coffee out all day. So this is for those kinds of people.
I drink coffee as fast as anyone I know. I love it extremely hot. The latter half is not as hot as the first half. With this cup the latter half is hotter than the first half
 
I mean, I get it, but this entire thread could be a featured exhibit in an encyclopedia entry on First World Problems. 😂
Of course. It's only natural and appropriate that any living creature has to deal with the problems of whatever "world" in which it exists. So although I disagree with the nomenclature ("First World"), I find this type of mug to be an appropriate tool to attempt to deal with one of our common "First World" problems: maintaining the optimum temperature of a favorite beverage over time while stuck at work.
 
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