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Agreed, but it didn't have capacitive click, Force Touch or haptic feedback—critical steps to getting people accustomed to a capacitive UI. All click input from 1994 to 2005 was through a physical button...
My Powerbook 2400C from 1997 on Mac OS 8.6 has tap to click/double-click and double-tap to drag for selecting and moving things. It is an OS Control panel which means that the Powerbook 500 and Duo 2300C would have it as well.
 
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I wonder how many were purchased by YouTubers whose only intent was to get a bunch of video views (income) and then return it and making a video of that for more views.

Judging by the relatively low view counts on Vision related content it seems like that may have been a bad strategy, assuming anyone actually bought one for that specific reason.
 
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My Powerbook 2400C from 1997 on Mac OS 8.6 has tap to click/double-click and double-tap to drag for selecting and moving things. It is an OS Control panel which means that the Powerbook 500 and Duo 2300C would have it as well.
Fair point, and I do recall this now that you mention it.

Though I would say that was a very old feature common to trackpads on multiple platforms. Also, these are sequential taps (without haptic feedback?) and not differentiating between one finger, two finger, right or left finger (I'm not sure the concept of "right click" existed at that point though IIRC correctly Option-Click or Command-Click was the equivalent somewhere around OS 8.6 or 9.2.

However, these observations support, rather than refute, my overarching point: Apple often introduces ideas in pieces that eventually get combined into a whole that is greater than the sum of the parts. Though in this case, as I told someone else earlier, I don't think that this is an example of any kind of machiavellian long game in which the end goal in the 1990s was iPhone in 2007.

If memory serves, Apple started conceptualizing and prototyping iPhone around 2005, and so to me, Mighty Mouse was the first time they consciously put several features—location-differentiated click, haptic scrolling, etc.—together, which had a direct relationship to what they were prototyping.
 
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The thing is even that is MacBook money. And a laptop is a hell of a lot more versatile.
…It has to cost more than Macbook money. The device has a M2 chip, much more sensors, and a screen far superior than a Macbook Air that comparable monitors cost $3000 minimum.

Of course it costs more than a Macbook… Duh!

The target audience of the device understands this.
 
The video is hilarious. But it also underscores how far from the actual endgame we are, both in terms of form factor and practical application.

The problem right now is that these devices don't improve reality... yet. They overcomplicate it.

People have laughed at some of my comments about where I see this actually going, and that's okay. Nobody really understood my senior thesis on internet distribution of music, either.

In the near term, I can see some business executives finding it useful to expand their workspace on business travel while also maintaining privacy. But in the far term, I think about what made the iTunes/iPod/iPhone ecosystem work, and it was purchasing convenience more than anything else.

When reality becomes easier to navigate because of MR-enabled eyeglass prescription lenses that can fit any frames, that's when this tech is going to find its place.
The headset form factor would be far superior in many ways in various aspects of spatial/MR-computing no different than a phone vs a tablet vs a laptop.

It’s not an either-or. The most Mainstream-friendly form factor is neither of these things but smart contacts followed by glasses IMO.
 
Judging by the relatively low view counts on Vision related content it seems like that may have been a bad strategy, assuming anyone actually bought one for that specific reason.
Well lets see, here are the viewership numbers

the one thing no one will say about Apple Vision Pro 7.3 million views
why everyone is wrong about the Apple Vision Pro including me 442k views
Apple Vision Pro Its magic until its not 1.8 million views
Using Apple Vision Pro What its really like 25 million views
Using Apple Vision Pro in public 403k views
Is Apple Vision Pro worth it 2.9 million views

Yeah, really looks like nobody watched youtube videos about it
 
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Smart contacts are a fantasy that will never happen in any of our lifetimes if ever.
FYI, just today at the annual IEEE International Solid State Circuits Conference in San Francisco, I attended a talk by a team at Stanford working on better neural interfaces.

One of their slides showed a potential application for their work involving a contact lens incorporating extensive electronics:
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("US" here = "Ultrasound", RF = "Radio Frequency")

In this case, the contact lens is acting as a relay for power and communications to a serious medical implant (at the back of the eyeball), and not something that displays things bought from Apple's walled garden... but still, that's a pretty "smart" contact!
 
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Besides the obvious “it’s your job” post that everyone else has done, the assessment on the shortcomings are about right and why I thought it was odd Apple would even release it until the tech caught up. It isn’t like Meta or Sony or whomever was going to be leap years ahead of Apple so I thought it odd that they released it now, although if rumors are to be believed they worked on what we have now for quite some time.

I suspect it was released now so that the manufacturing processes could be better understood and cost could be driven down as the underlying tech is actually fairly more advanced than anything else out there, but it’s still not up to what I’d consider an Apple quality device overall.

Imagine if they said screw it and released their car they’ve been working on for the past 10 years before it was ready. I wonder how many people would pay for the privilege to beta test that? Would they be called crash dummies?
 
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FYI, just today at the annual IEEE International Solid State Circuits Conference in San Francisco, I attended a talk by a team at Stanford working on better neural interfaces.

One of their slides showed a potential application for their work involving a contact lens incorporating extensive electronics:View attachment 2351108
("US" here = "Ultrasound", RF = "Radio Frequency")

In this case, the contact lens is acting as a relay for power and communications to a serious medical implant (at the back of the eyeball), and not something that displays things bought from Apple's walled garden... but still, that's a pretty "smart" contact!
This is for sure interesting although you aren’t going to get people to ever go along with injections or implants of tech. We can’t get people to take basic shots because they think a computer chip is tracking them for Satan and the government, and those shots are free. Giving people bionic eyes they pay for is gonna be a tough sell.

I am of the belief the tech takes off like iPhone, iPad, PCs etc once it’s like sunglasses with all day battery, or better yet a holodeck type deal.
 
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…It has to cost more than Macbook money. The device has a M2 chip, much more sensors, and a screen far superior than a Macbook Air that comparable monitors cost $3000 minimum.

Of course it costs more than a Macbook… Duh!

The target audience of the device understands this.

And that’s why this product will fail.

Meta are able to sell something not far off, and in some instances superior such as FOV and integrated battery, for much less money.
 
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The headset form factor would be far superior in many ways in various aspects of spatial/MR-computing no different than a phone vs a tablet vs a laptop.

It’s not an either-or. The most Mainstream-friendly form factor is neither of these things but smart contacts followed by glasses IMO.
Glasses sure, but where are you going to put the processor, battery, sensors, and associated hardware in contacts?
 
Besides the obvious “it’s your job” post that everyone else has done, the assessment on the shortcomings are about right and why I thought it was odd Apple would even release it until the tech caught up. It isn’t like Meta or Sony or whomever was going to be leap years ahead of Apple so I thought it odd that they released it now, although if rumors are to be believed they worked on what we have now for quite some time.

I suspect it was released now so that the manufacturing processes could be better understood and cost could be driven down as the underlying tech is actually fairly more advanced than anything else out there, but it’s still not up to what I’d consider an Apple quality device overall.

Imagine if they said screw it and released their car they’ve been working on for the past 10 years before it was ready. I wonder how many people would pay for the privilege to beta test that? Would they be called crash dummies?
People have been beta testing Teslas for over a decade and the owners are pretty happy with them.
 
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I'm not really sure -
alot depends on how the hardware evolves.
It is very much limited in it's current form factor - without those limitations, I believe it could very well change how we interact with technology. Of course that may not happen for quite a while. But it's a start.

Me, personally, I'm easily distracted by bright colors, so right now, I just enjoying exploring it.
Will I get bored with it - maybe - I don't know - not yet.
Of course I would like to see it grow, get more apps - both in entertainment and productivity.
I also think it still has a long way to go to get integrated into the Apple ecosystem.
Why is there not an App on the iPhone for it like there is for my Apple Watch?
For example - they could have made a really cool interactive 3D calendar for it - instead you get a flat screen copy of the calendar that's already on your phone.

The real question is can Apple make it go there.

I think they can.
If the quality of apps, user comfort and affordability improve dramatically.
This is a real moonshot for Apple.
I hope they succeed.
 
The headset form factor would be far superior in many ways in various aspects of spatial/MR-computing no different than a phone vs a tablet vs a laptop.

It’s not an either-or. The most Mainstream-friendly form factor is neither of these things but smart contacts followed by glasses IMO.

I am of the belief the tech takes off like iPhone, iPad, PCs etc once it’s like sunglasses with all day battery, or better yet a holodeck type deal.

It has to be even simpler and more elegant than that... I've seen the future, and it is not cartoon-proportioned Ray Bans that show you the HUD equivalent of a 1989 Buick Riviera's touchscreen.

iPhone and iPad replaced PDAs, Walkmans, cameras, portable audio recorders, Filofaxes, Rolodexes (there's an anecdote about business manager Ken Kragen, the guy behind organizing the stars on We Are The World, who used to travel with suitcases of Rolodexes), the list goes on for hundreds of miles.

Macs were much slower to pop (iMac was more than a decade after the original Mac). Initially, they replaced typewriters/typesetters (desktop publishing; Aldus Pagemaker was the killer app that made Mac a thing), mixing consoles (ProTools replacing the SSL/Neve consoles), nonlinear editing (Final Cut Pro replacing Avid Symphony), etc.

Right now AVP's prospects are tied too closely to VR, so the goalposts of what it can do have to change... In the 90s the next big thing was one-click purchasing. It was the patent (Amazon) that Apple licensed that made iTunes idiotically easy and addictive to use even when compared to free, unnavigable messes like Napster, Limewire and Kazaa.

Sitting next to a copy of my senior thesis on internet distribution of music, from 1996, I'm thinking the next big thing is no-click purchasing.

When I can look at someone passing by on the street and say, I want those boots, and it finds the manufacturer, sets up the order, billing and sizing info, or I can walk into my bedroom and say "clear the room, now add a Natuzzi sofa that fits that corner" and it finds me the exact product based on what it knows about my preferences and the vibe of the room, all of this sandwiched into a pair of prescription lenses that fit any frames I like, then Amazon is in trouble, and this product will take off like the wheel.

And what a hilarious irony it would be if Apple bludgeoned Amazon by improving upon a patent it quietly licensed from them almost a quarter century ago.
 
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Interesting to see all of the folks posting here, who before the AVP’s release were thumbs-down’ing others who said this product was going to be a fizzle, that are admitting how bad this release truly is.
 
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Yet another hurdle for Apple to resolve

Purchased films upgraded to 3D by Apple will sometimes only play in 2D on Apple Vision Pro if ownership was imported through Movies Anywhere — and there doesn't appear to be a fix.
Unfortunately, the idea has hit a hurdle with the Apple Vision Pro. Apple has been highlighting the immersive video in Apple Vision Pro, and key feature is how the company will upgrade purchased movies to 3D. If a user has ever bought a HD movie on the Apple TV store and a 3D version is now available, that user gets that 3D version immediately and for free.
Unless they bought it from Apple via Movies Anywhere. In that case, there's no free upgrade to 3D — and according to users on Reddit, no way to just buy the film again. "I was just told that if I have 3D movies in my library that don't play in 3D. Sorry, out of luck," Reddit user From_the_Future wrote after reportedly speaking with Apple Support many times. "They will remove the 'play in 3d' button from that."
 
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Interesting to see all of the folks posting here, who before the AVP’s release were thumbs-down’ing others who said this product was going to be a fizzle, that are admitting how bad this release truly is.
I sold six thousand shares of Apple stock six months before iPod came out. I will never thumbs down anyone for an opinion of what Apple will or won't do.

Just for fun...
 
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I sold six thousand shares of Apple stock six months before iPod came out. I will never thumbs down anyone for an opinion of what Apple will or won't do.

Just for fun...
You’re definitely not one of them, but there’s a few other names on here notorious for thumbs-downing anyone who speaks against their golden Apple. Now, I’m seeing these same people on this thread saying things others were saying that they were giving thumbs down on. Interesting how it all comes full circle -shrugs-
 
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