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Jinzen

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But if you had all your usual apps and 10gb of music and you still had 32gb left free - why would you need to have 96gb free as a bare minimum ?

Also I think your assertion they need a significant chunk of free space informed. You do not need to keep a huge chunk free just to maintain performance.

Likewise factory image sizing

S6 factory image / system reserved is around 6gb

Around 7% is removed as soon as you format the storage regardless of device and around

Likewise my 64gb has around 56gb free fresh from factory. 7% is formatting is 59.5 left and remaining 3.5gb is system.

So a 64gb S6 has around 59.5 after formatting and around 52gb free after system used up. 52gb free to the user.

So the size difference between the two is around 3.5-4gb between iPhone 6 64gb and S6 64gb. So not as big a difference as people tend to make out.

All SSDs need a good amount of free space to maintain peak performance. I'd be comfortable with 15-20 gb free minimum for TRIM and garbage collection.

32gb would be filled up quickly with pictures and videos, easily within 1 vacation I could take about 10gigs worth of videos and pics. My device keeps most of my music, which is around 20gbs. I would say 128gb is definitely a minimum for a user like me, 64gb bare minimum for most users.
 

Michael Goff

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All SSDs need a good amount of free space to maintain peak performance. I'd be comfortable with 15-20 gb free minimum for TRIM and garbage collection.

32gb would be filled up quickly with pictures and videos, easily within 1 vacation I could take about 10gigs worth of videos and pics. My device keeps most of my music, which is around 20gbs. I would say 128gb is definitely a minimum for a user like me, 64gb bare minimum for most users.

You do know cloud services exist, right?
 

The Game 161

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Didn't realise how quickly MySpace would go on here..only 815MB left from 32GB..something is taking up my space
 

Jinzen

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You do know cloud services exist, right?

I use Cloud services, I get 25gb from OneDrive, 15 from Google, 7 from Dropbox and 25 and from Box. (All free storage).

But they are only useful when you have fast WiFi, not always useable on the road. Plus, most of them have dedicated tasks (work materials, photo backup, videos, app storage etc), so while they add up to 72gb, I probably have 20gb of free space there.
 

Michael Goff

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I use Cloud services, I get 25gb from OneDrive, 15 from Google, 7 from Dropbox and 25 and from Box. (All free storage).

But they are only useful when you have fast WiFi, not always useable on the road. Plus, most of them have dedicated tasks (work materials, photo backup, videos, app storage etc), so while they add up to 72gb, I probably have 20gb of free space there.

I thought Google was unlimited for up to 16mp pictures and 1080p video?
 

grkm3

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Holly crap I just watched the op video and omg that is crazy reloading on his gs6.

Now I know why mru is so much talking and complaining about the memory loading issues.

My 64gb gs6 is nothing like the one in this video and I just made a clip running the same apps.I can get about 8-10 apps in memory before they start to reload.

Sorry for my internet slowing to a crawl mid way loading instantgram but damn there is something up with some gs6s
 
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Aika

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Touchwiz (Samsung) is a completely different beast to stock Android. Blame Samsung for Touchwiz purging the RAM constantly causing performance issues and their bloated OS, not Google.
 

grkm3

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Touchwiz (Samsung) is a completely different beast to stock Android. Blame Samsung for Touchwiz purging the RAM constantly causing performance issues and their bloated OS, not Google.

Actually Google is 100% to blame on lolipop memory leak problem.
 

Michael Goff

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Actually Google is 100% to blame on lolipop memory leak problem.

Except it isn't a memory leak problem. The problem with the S6 is an overly aggressive memory management system. It's why people are reporting that changing the build.prop fixes it for them, they're fixing a problem with the way the system purges apps from RAM.
 
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grkm3

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Except it isn't a memory leak problem. The problem with the S6 is an overly aggressive memory management system. It's why people are reporting that changing the build.prop fixes it for them, they're fixing a problem with the way the system purges apps from RAM.

Maybe Samsung permanently killed apps to prevent them from causing issues after a few hours?

PS google fixed one of the many memory leaks in 5.1.1 but they are still there
 

grkm3

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A memory leak is a different thing altogether and it was fixed with 5.1 anyway.

One of the many have been fixed.maybe take a peak at the forums with people running pure nexus devices and see for your self on what a **** show lolipop is.

It's the vista of windows
 

Aika

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I had battery life issues on Lollipop with my phone but I didn't experience any memory leaks.

I am on Android M now anyway and it's great.
 

Michael Goff

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Maybe Samsung permanently killed apps to prevent them from causing issues after a few hours?

PS google fixed one of the many memory leaks in 5.1.1 but they are still there

If that were the case, I would have run into those issues when I was using a Nexus 6 running 5.1.1. I didn't.
 

grkm3

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I just wished the gs6 came with 4.4.4 that was by far the fastest and most stable version until they went full art run time and 64 bit.

But I still don't get how the ops gs6 is running like it is.mine runs faster then his in power saving mode.
 

MRU

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Here is my video

Good to see confirmation that it's not an issue for everyone. Though it kind is like rubbing salt on a wound for those of us who are

I still wonder what is the main cause as people with same firmware / model (csc) have different experience which means if software is same why are few plagued whilst some have no issue. It's frustrating indeed.
 

grkm3

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I need to add my phone is on virgin oem firmware and I never installed any updates or patches(I did and went back) and is on a very early firmware

IV done a lot of research on it and Samsung has done some funky stuff with the nand partion flash that caches memory and I think I read they set it to 1.5gb and its always filling that cache to make the phone snappy and this is behind the scenes like not showing up in application manager.

The crazy thing about my phone is ill run 15 apps and then power it off for ten min and then when it boots back up all my running apps are in the app page still in cache like I never **** the phone off.

It's like permanently caching on the ufs nand flash for system apps
 
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grkm3

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I'm still imagining this hardware running software as efficient as iOS.

All Samsung needs to do is make a deal with Google to use the Google app store in tizen and its game over.

The ecosystem that people have with Google is what is keeping Samsung from using in-house operating system on there flagships.

Make a deal with Google to allow gaaps on tizen and its a win win for everyone.
 

grkm3

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Can someone see if there phone keeps apps in memory after turning it off and back on again like this.

 

MRU

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Can someone see if there phone keeps apps in memory after turning it off and back on again like this.


All my androids current do that (show last used in recents after a reboot), however they have to refresh content when you click on any of them.

So it's keeping a snapshot in recents but not actually keeping app in memory.

S6 Edge / Z3 / Nexus 6
 
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