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Jumpthesnark

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Apr 24, 2022
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A morning post to Digital Photography Review (DPReview.com) says that the site, which has been around for decades as an authoritative resource for photographers, will be closing.

I always went to DPR for information about just-released gear, to compare camera bodies and lenses, to talk with other photographers. Sad news.

UPDATE: On June 20, 2023, DPReview announced that they had been sold to online review site Gear Patrol, and that they would not close.
 
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Clix Pix

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I am stunned. For years I looked to DPR to read reviews of cameras and lenses in which I was interested, and occasionally participated in the discussion forums. There was a period early-on, back in the early 2000's, when things weren't well-moderated and could be distinctly unpleasant in some of the discussions with arguments breaking out and rude behaviors such as being told to "RTFM!" in answer to questions. That resulted in some members starting their own forums (Nikon Cafe being one of them).

Eventually through the years things evolved and improved as participants eased away from the Wild-West no-holds-barred atmosphere of Usenet, the internet and DPR itself grew larger and more civilized. Also over time there were changes in ownership, etc., new policies and guidelines were set in place, moderators were appointed and the content continued to be increasingly valuable to participants and lurkers alike.

In the many discussion forums on DPR there were threads and posts about all the various camera brands and models, the lenses, camera bags, backpacks, accessories, etc., and one could learn a lot before buying any particular item what everyday users were doing with it and if they felt the gear or product was worth it. DPR is truly a unique resource developed over a number of years which will be missed by many, many professional and amateur photographers around the world.

This is truly disappointing news and a reminder that even something online which one is enjoying and appreciating can be snatched away as the internet has become seen more and more as a moneymaker for larger corporations and organizations while being increasingly expensive for owners/admins of smaller sites to continue to keep running.

There are of course other sources online for finding both print and video reviews of gear, finding user discussions about gear, etc., but the absence of DPR will create a huge void.
 

squawk7000

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Sep 20, 2021
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DPR has been a daily read for me for years, since the Phil Askey days. Its difficult to say how much I've learned form reading articles on the site, and the forums.

It has been a great resource for making decisions on purchases. The posts by contributors to the forum has been inspirational, and educational.

A great loss.
 

Analog Kid

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I’m sure Amazon trying to balance their budget is part of it:



Edit: @_timo_redux_ made the connection already…
 

OldMacs4Me

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Wild Rose And Wind Belt
This might come around and bite Amazon in the butt. Quite simply the more information someone has when ordering online, the less likely they are to return a purchase. Getting rid of DP Review means getting rid of a gigantic portion of the online information on cameras.

Bottom line is that shipping and return on cameras tends to be costly, and the less information available at the time of an order the higher possibility that purchase will be returned.
 

CalMin

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Nov 8, 2007
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The iPhone has killed photography.

This is the truth of it for the casual photographer. Serious hobbyists and professionals exist and they still need all the pro gear but it's increasingly true that the iPhone works best for most of us, most of the time.

The iPhone 11 Pro marked the transition away from my point-and-shoot RX100. The iPhone 13 Pro has me leaving my dSLR at home as well. I admit that I miss my 300mm zoom and the 10mm ultra wide angle for creative fun, but vacation snaps have never looked better than with an iPhone..
 

mtbdudex

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Stunned
Saddened

Seriously I was going to this site later today for possible RF lens I’m buying info.
4/10 is last day .. wow
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Clix Pix

macrumors Core
So sad! What else can be compared to DPReview?
All the big tech have destroyed smaller sites and the independent thought 😒
That's why we are all expressing our shock and dismay right now: nothing -- as far as I know, no other site can be compared to DPR in terms of the snapshots of photographic history they have captured through these past 25 years: they were starting out at the beginning of the whole digital photography thing, and people were talking about Nikon's Coolpixes, Sony's Mavicas, Canon's Rebels.....the very first digital SLRs....and from there everything took off as, slowly and with some skepticism we began shifting our attention from film, and then it seemed as though suddenly we were all excitedly exploring the new and intriguing world of digital photography as more and more technical advances made that possible. WOW. That was a time.....

But that was only the start. Eventually manufacturers and some photographers moved into the interesting new format of 4/3 and m4/3, a world unto itself with a lot of advantages. Then eventually came yet another whole new era, the one where APS-C camera bodies were suddenly smaller and lighter and there was -- gasp! -- no mirror! What happened to the optical VF? What was this weird EVF? All of a sudden there was this whole new world for photographers to explore now, too..... Of course, Full-Frame bodies weren't all that far behind..... And, yes, people are still exploring mirrorless technology now as they decide where they want to go with their photography in the future and which gear really serves them the best in the kind of images they like to shoot and present.

DPR escorted us out of Usenet and the alt.photo.rec Wild West era and took photographers, both professionals and amateurs alike (well, the ones who were around at the very beginning) through all of this, from back in the late 1990's and into the early 2000's and of course all through the first decade and into the second and now we're moving beyond.... and we learned and we explored and we talked about the impact of the changes, we tried the new gear when we were ready, and opinions and ideas were flying all over the place even as people also were looking to DPR to learn about the latest new camera body or lens that might be just what they needed to move forward with their photography.....

We looked, we learned, we sometimes argued or asked too many questions, we wanted reviews and we got them, and we wanted more content in different formats (video) so we got that, too, and DPR was always there, one way or another..... Amazon has announced that they are killing off an extraordinarily valuable (but also at times controversial) internet historical and contemporary resource for photographers. This is just sickening.
 

Clix Pix

macrumors Core
This might come around and bite Amazon in the butt. Quite simply the more information someone has when ordering online, the less likely they are to return a purchase. Getting rid of DP Review means getting rid of a gigantic portion of the online information on cameras.

Bottom line is that shipping and return on cameras tends to be costly, and the less information available at the time of an order the higher possibility that purchase will be returned.
I suspect that part of the problem here is that Amazon was probably anticipating that people who were participating in DPR would read a review and comments about a new camera body or lens and promptly order that from Amazon. Well, guess what, this wasn't going to happen because some fortunate people still have camera shops local to their home area and can go there to handle and decide to purchase a body or lens, and others have long since depended on using trusted internet photographic gear vendors such as B&H and several others in the US (I don't know what would be the equivalent in other countries, but I'm sure there are some shops with both a physical and an online presence).

So, yeah, for me at least, seeing information about a new lens or a new camera body on the internet would stir my interest and I would want to read reviews and user comments, plus also go to a local shop to get my hands on the thing, but if that wasn't possible, I'd simply wait until the item was available in my local shop.

In some situations the local shop isn't going to have the desired item if it is not a brand that they carry in their normal inventory, and that's when I go further afield to see if B&H has it. Last resort: yeah, Amazon. Actually, I did that not too long ago when an item in which I was interested was out of stock at B&H and I really wanted it SOON so I ordered it from Amazon, and it arrived, safely and carefully packaged and just what I wanted. Loving my little 6.5mm fisheye lens!

Unfortunately that isn't always the case and it is best to look at whether or not Amazon itself is handling the entire transaction or whether the item is being shipped from a vendor in their marketplace, when sometimes things aren't as carefully managed as they should be. It is especially important to be mindful from which source a memory card or presumed OEM battery is coming....

So, Amazon may not have received the volume of orders of expensive camera gear -- bodies and lenses -- that they were expecting and this would have been a disappointment and adding to the overall evaluation of ROI when it came to owning and operating DPR. This is really sad and really a disservice to photographers around the world who now will be losing out on the wonderful benefits DPR provided with their discussion forums and video and written reviews.
 

katbel

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So, yeah, for me at least, seeing information about a new lens or a new camera body on the internet would stir my interest and I would want to read reviews and user comments, plus also go to a local shop to get my hands on the thing, but if that wasn't possible, I'd simply wait until the item was available in my local shop.
Exactly what I've done too, beside asking on this forum as well, you know 🌹
Never bought any lens or camera at Amazon- so many horror stories- beside I'm off their claws since a while and prefer to buy local all what I can.
So tired of big tech, so tired of ultra-rich and soulless
Why not to keep it even only as a repository?!
 
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