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Clix Pix

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Exactly what I've done too, beside asking on this forum as well, you know 🌹
Never bought any lens or camera at Amazon- so many horror stories- beside I'm off their claws since a while and prefer to buy local all what I can.
So tired of big tech, so tired of ultra-rich and soulless
Why not to keep it even only as a repository?!
A long time ago I ordered a sort of novelty lens (inexpensive, but still, not that cheap!) from Amazon and was not pleased when it arrived in one of those bubble envelopes, the box within free to slip, slide and bounce all over the place. Ehhhhh!!!! Thankfully the lens was OK, to my relief, but I quickly made sure to check it out thoroughly in case I needed to return it.

With that in mind I gave the situation a lot of thought before once again taking a risk and trying Amazon to order the little fisheye lens....and decided, what the heck, it wasn't expensive, it wasn't as though I were ordering a lens which cost a couple of thousand dollars.... so placed the order and was pleasantly surprised when it arrived nicely and safely packaged in a box containing the actual box which held the lens itself. So that was good.... Whew!

Even so, most of the lenses which I have purchased for my cameras have been either from local shops or from B&H online and (thankfully!) I have never had any issues with them. Ditto with purchasing accessories such as extra OEM batteries or various-capacity memory cards -- first option is the local shop, and after that, B&H.

If I were someone who made huge and expensive purchases of lenses and camera bodies all at once, adding up well into the thou$$$$ands of dollars range, Amazon simply would not be my vendor of choice. I suspect that many other photographers feel much the same way.

Ditto for computer equipment. If I need or want a new Apple computer or some accessory, again my first choice is always going to be the local Apple Store, and I am fortunate to live in an area where we have several of them within comfortable local driving distance. Also, obviously, ordering from the Apple Store online is an option as well. Why would anyone go to Amazon for an Apple computer or other device?

I don't think that it would be possible for Amazon to keep DPR as a repository site. It still costs a fair amount of money to have a website and hosting service and to keep on top of things to be sure that the site is still functioning as expected. Amazon probably doesn't want to mess with that at all, they just want to dump the site and clear their books of it and move on. Frustrating and sad, though, isn't it, for the actual target audience of active photographers who truly benefitted from using both the current and the historical information on that site?
 
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Jumpthesnark

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Where will all the refugees be evacuating to?
I figure some will go to Fred Miranda's site (and based on a few forum comments there, some commenters are none too happy about an influx of DPReview refugees). The people who just want to talk about Sony rumors or Canon rumors may go to their sites. Astrophotography fans have a few sites to go to. Sadly, none of them are a replacement for DPReview, which seemed to be (almost) all things to all people.
 
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Dana Beck

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Wow never thought I'd live to see that site go. Got my Canon 40D as a younger person after reading countless reviews on cameras back in the day from DPReview (~2007).

Sad indeed. And I'm starting to feel a lot older.
I also got my 40D way back after reading the review there. I think Amazon bought them several years ago, and now, in the face of Amazon's employee layoffs, I guess DP Review is in the crosshairs. Sad. What a great website.
 

winxmac

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I started late in DSLR photography for I only owned one in 2016 but I remember it as one of the sites I used as a resource when reading about digital photography and camera comparison... In the same year I also bought my first smartphone which is a pre-owned iPhone 5 but my primary device for photography and videography was my Nikon D5500 with an 18-55mm stock lens and 55-300mm telephoto...
 

Analog Kid

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Maybe Amazon could have tried to sell DPReview instead of shutting it down. It's a well-respected website after all.

My inner cynic imagines that someone is going to buy the domain name and find a way to profit on their good name through shadier means. Selling slots in their "10 Best Lenses in 2023" comes to mind.

Selling their subscriber list might be another. If anyone's a member it might be worth checking the EULA and running a data scrub.
 

Clix Pix

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I figure some will go to Fred Miranda's site (and based on a few forum comments there, some commenters are none too happy about an influx of DPReview refugees). The people who just want to talk about Sony rumors or Canon rumors may go to their sites. Astrophotography fans have a few sites to go to. Sadly, none of them are a replacement for DPReview, which seemed to be (almost) all things to all people.
It would make sense that people who are pretty much wedded to one particular brand of photo gear would go to a site which specifically discusses that brand, but I'd think that many would already be members of those sites anyway. A lot of people, especially the old-timers, are members of several sites, including DPR along with the ones featuring the brand(s) of their preference.

Fred Miranda's site does cover all the major brands, doesn't it? I've only looked in there a couple of times and was not particularly interested in what I was seeing. I've had the impression that the marketplace area of that site is pretty active, though, and that this is where a lot of people go to sell their old gear or to check out what's available in whatever their brand of choice is.
 
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LockOn2B

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Corporate greed is just sad. You will be missed, DPR. I frequented their site just to read the reviews for every iPhone & any “real” camera my relatives ended up buying.
 

Kimmo

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That's a great shame.

As mentioned above, Fred Miranda and PetaPixel are good sites.

A newer site, PhotoPXL, is worth a look. It's led by Kevin Raber who worked with the excellent Michael Reichmann at The Luminous Landscape before Michael passed in 2016. A lot of good content, especially if you're interested in honing your post-processing and printing skills.

 

GaryPDX

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So sad! What else can be compared to DPReview?
All the big tech have destroyed smaller sites and the independent thought 😒
I used to visit DPReview every day. But it's gotten much calmer in the recent past. Anyway, over time, I have found that a thoughtfully curated selection of YouTube photography pages is what I really use for information. Seems to me there's a firehose of info for just about any camera platform or accessory there.

Also, I bet a lot of DPReview denizens will end up on Reddit; seems to me many already have. Either way, you can get some pretty obscure things clarified over on Reddit. So, a couple of ideas that I have been using.
 
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leifp

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I’m a bit stunned that this was able to happen. I understand every step in the process and still cannot quite believe a resource that I have used since reading up on the Canon D60 is dying.

I bought my first digital cameras thanks to dpreview.com: the 10D on release after studying up the D60 and catching the rumours of a 10D, and the S40 after I was forced to sell my Canon system in my move to another country. Still a “daily driver” although I haven’t worked in photography since 2004.
 

Darmok N Jalad

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I've read from others that the forums at DPR could get pretty rough/hostile, for no good reason, without much quality moderation. I can't really verify that, but I stayed away from there, but I did enjoy the reviews. Chris and Jordan really were the best part of it, and appear to have landed on their feet. Maybe their new gig will allow them to be even more of themselves, as it's a bit of a conflict of interest to be reviewing gear that is sold by your parent company. Sadly, this really is the danger of entirely digital and hosted content. The plug can get pulled and years of work and content can vanish. Yes, there's the Internet Archive, but what happens if that one goes under?
 

Steven-iphone

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Per reddit post: Once archived, the entire site will be made available for anyone to browse on the internet archive. The entire .WARC will also be made available for anyone to download and view locally with a .WARC viewer such as Web Replay — this allows you to download the site and view it locally forever. You will be able to download the .WARC file from here once complete.

Need a special viewer to 'view' the archived site?
How will this content be found?

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This fellow has a good take on the shutting down of DPReview.

 
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Steven-iphone

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I've read from others that the forums at DPR could get pretty rough/hostile, for no good reason,

Like any forum, things can get rough and hostile for no good reason. However, digging through the threads I could find woven the info I was looking for. Sometimes it was the only source for the info I needed; camera raw conversion software and source.
 
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sparksd

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I've read from others that the forums at DPR could get pretty rough/hostile, for no good reason, without much quality moderation. I can't really verify that, but I stayed away from there, but I did enjoy the reviews. Chris and Jordan really were the best part of it, and appear to have landed on their feet. Maybe their new gig will allow them to be even more of themselves, as it's a bit of a conflict of interest to be reviewing gear that is sold by your parent company. Sadly, this really is the danger of entirely digital and hosted content. The plug can get pulled and years of work and content can vanish. Yes, there's the Internet Archive, but what happens if that one goes under?

I didn't really see much of that in the 22 years I belonged to the forums. There could be some pretty good info posted there at times. For rough/hostile, go to Reddit ...
 

Matsamoto

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The iPhone has killed photography.
I think you are somewhat right, but it’s not just the iPhone in this case.
I think this is a problem for all the smartphones🙂

And of course, the interests. Not many of us have a big interest of system camera and taking pictures with it. (I have dough😊)
And also the weight and size. It’s more convenient to bring your smartphone with you instead of a system camera with objective🙂
 

Steven-iphone

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Mobile phone photography is chic and fad (in vogue) as was film travel photography years past. Social media snaps will go on. And so will dedicated camera photography. Maybe in 20-years dedicated digital camera use will become the fad that film use is today. I choose to be dedicated.
 

maflynn

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I think this where big business fails. Amazon bought Dpreview as we all know. I think if passionate people still owned the site, this would never have happened but now its just another business unit of Amazon, not making enough money for the parent company so they pulled the plug.
 
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