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johnnnw

macrumors 65816
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Feb 7, 2013
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One thing I don't like is the Safari API doesn't allow Adblock to be as good as it is on Chrome etc...

Can't block preroll ads and just a few other random things.

Unfortunate
 

cocky jeremy

macrumors 604
Jul 12, 2008
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I've reset Safari and everything, but in Yosemite, it's absolutely horrible. It was near perfect in Mavericks. Safari is literally the ONLY issue I'm having with Yosemite so far. It's just slow, slow, slow. Loads pages slow, beach balls, etc. No idea why. Every other browser has been perfectly fine. Kinda strange. Besides clearing out my Safari data, any other ideas I can try?
 

johnnnw

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Feb 7, 2013
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I've reset Safari and everything, but in Yosemite, it's absolutely horrible. It was near perfect in Mavericks. Safari is literally the ONLY issue I'm having with Yosemite so far. It's just slow, slow, slow. Loads pages slow, beach balls, etc. No idea why. Every other browser has been perfectly fine. Kinda strange. Besides clearing out my Safari data, any other ideas I can try?

That's odd. My experience is the opposite. Safari was unusably slow compared to Chrome and Opera in Mavericks.
 

Advil

macrumors 6502a
Oct 4, 2008
860
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I've reset Safari and everything, but in Yosemite, it's absolutely horrible. It was near perfect in Mavericks. Safari is literally the ONLY issue I'm having with Yosemite so far. It's just slow, slow, slow. Loads pages slow, beach balls, etc. No idea why. Every other browser has been perfectly fine. Kinda strange. Besides clearing out my Safari data, any other ideas I can try?

same situation here. slow, laggy and getting beachballs often.
 

Romf

macrumors 6502
Jun 11, 2011
264
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Paris, France
I have the same problem that you can't start typing directly when opening a new tab.

Also, I have a website that opens as mobile version in Safari (noticed just one website)... Anyone else?
 

Cougarcat

macrumors 604
Sep 19, 2003
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I've reset Safari and everything, but in Yosemite, it's absolutely horrible. It was near perfect in Mavericks. Safari is literally the ONLY issue I'm having with Yosemite so far. It's just slow, slow, slow. Loads pages slow, beach balls, etc. No idea why. Every other browser has been perfectly fine. Kinda strange. Besides clearing out my Safari data, any other ideas I can try?

Same here on my 2010 MBP. WebKit is using like 25-30% CPU instead of 1%...
 

Vanarak19

macrumors 65816
Feb 18, 2008
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Ive noticed a lot of window drag lag on my rmbp. I assume final release will be better optimized! Safari I don't think was bad to begin with.
 

Huck

macrumors newbie
Jan 6, 2004
16
11
Sherman Oaks, CA
I'm loving Safari 8.0—much better than any version I used under Mavericks. I do have one issue, though: I don't stay logged in through Safari restarts.

Every site from eBay, banks, Amazon to MacRumors, etc. act as if I don't have accounts, so I'm stuck entering account/passcode info and logging in again every time. The various "keep me logged in" checkboxes have no effect. I wonder what has changed that I'm overlooking. Hmmm…

I do wish text utilized for the Favorites Bar wasn't so faint, but otherwise Safari under Yosemite Beta has proven really solid (and fast) for me!
 

matreya

macrumors 65816
Nov 14, 2009
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I'm loving Safari 8.0—much better than any version I used under Mavericks. I do have one issue, though: I don't stay logged in through Safari restarts.

Every site from eBay, banks, Amazon to MacRumors, etc. act as if I don't have accounts, so I'm stuck entering account/passcode info and logging in again every time. The various "keep me logged in" checkboxes have no effect. I wonder what has changed that I'm overlooking. Hmmm…

I do wish text utilized for the Favorites Bar wasn't so faint, but otherwise Safari under Yosemite Beta has proven really solid (and fast) for me!

1. I use 1Password and it seems to work just fine in Safari 8
2. I agree about the Favorites Bar.

And yes, Safari 8 has been very solid for me.
 

machpanic

macrumors newbie
Aug 2, 2014
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My experience so far has been good regarding webkit, i.e., pages render a bit faster, scrolling is a bit smoother, etc.

On the other hand safari itself is laggy and buggy, tab bar disappears (minimizing the window, bringing it back and opening a new tab seems to trigger this problem)

Address bar is laggy, sometimes I can type faster than the time characters take to appear on the screen, it happens when there are various sites in my history that match what I'm typing and it is easier to see if you write the entire address and then some extra chars, like: theverge.com/aaaaaa and then continuosly press backspace (the 'a's will be removed nicely but once you it theverge you can see blocks of two or three charcters being removed at once).

Sometimes big downloads (nothing extreme, just 30-50mb) makes Safari and Safari Networking consume CPU like crazy (120-150%) even with no other tabs open. Maybe it is some race condition as it doesn't seem to happen every time.

Can only go back one page at a time using gestures. Before I could swipe quickly three or four pages back without having to wait for every single one of them to reload. That feature is not working at all so far.

I also have the problem that some people reported about the address bar not being focused when opening a new window or tab.

I have been trying to report everything, including screenshots and samples, but so far no replies (?).
 

afsnyder

macrumors 65816
Jan 7, 2014
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I like to use keyboard shortcuts.
In Yosemite - Safari it SUCKS at this!

I already submitted this to apple.

If you hit CMD+T a new tab opens.
Then if you start typing - nothing happens. So you gotta grab the mouse and go to the navigation bar and click and then you can type.

It was better before in mavericks....

Not a big deal - but for those like me who like to use it like that - more like key striking guys... it's not an improvement ...

That's a glitch. It worked in previous betas.. just tested and it works in the latest beta to date on my rMBP.
 

Hookemfins

macrumors 6502
Jan 13, 2013
325
27
Florida
Same Mac Mini I had to go back to Mavericks and noticed that Safari was considerably slower than when I was on Yosemite.
 

sjn419

macrumors 6502
Jun 4, 2010
272
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I feel its faster.

Im liking the new safari a lot except for 2 issues/new features

1. when you click the url/search bar your favorites pop up which I like and disabled the previous favorites bar for but then under it lists frequently visited sites..wtf? no way to turn it off unless turning off the favorites option

2. when you click the tab view button, under the tabs, it lists your recent google searches. again, wtf? again, no way to disable

these two features need to change!
 

Dilster3k

macrumors 6502a
Jul 20, 2014
790
3,206
Indeed this new version is buttery smooth and excellent. I just don't like the menu bar items appearing over & over again.
 

The19th

macrumors regular
Jul 24, 2014
205
43
NorCal
I like to use keyboard shortcuts.
In Yosemite - Safari it SUCKS at this!

I already submitted this to apple.

If you hit CMD+T a new tab opens.
Then if you start typing - nothing happens. So you gotta grab the mouse and go to the navigation bar and click and then you can type.

It was better before in mavericks....

Not a big deal - but for those like me who like to use it like that - more like key striking guys... it's not an improvement ...

This is definitely a bug. I updated from 10.9.4 through all the DPs up to DP4 one after the other and I ended up with the frustrating Safari behaviors that many people have been describing. I couldn't live with it, so I formatted, clean installed back to 10.9.4 and restored from TM. Then PB1 came out with a full installer a few days later. I installed that and Safari has been smooth as butter since.
 
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hans1972

macrumors 68040
Apr 5, 2010
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If you hit CMD+T a new tab opens.
Then if you start typing - nothing happens. So you gotta grab the mouse and go to the navigation bar and click and then you can type.

I have the exact same issue on a MBA 11" (2013).
 

bmac89

macrumors 65816
Aug 3, 2014
1,388
468
Scroll between Tabs

I have a couple questions about Safari in Yosemite.

Can you scroll between Safari Tabs using the keyboard if you don't have a trackpad or magic mouse? If so how?
I know you can scroll between screens and mission control using control + arrow keys.

Also on my macbook (Snow Leopard) I use the trackpad to go back or forward between previous webpages, however on my Imac (SL) I usually use the "delete" or backspace key to go back to previous webpage. It seems this has been ditched from Yosemite (and probably Mavericks too). Is there anyway to get this back. I know it is a minor change but it is the small things which make a big difference.

Thanks
 

matreya

macrumors 65816
Nov 14, 2009
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Also on my macbook (Snow Leopard) I use the trackpad to go back or forward between previous webpages, however on my Imac (SL) I usually use the "delete" or backspace key to go back to previous webpage. It seems this has been ditched from Yosemite (and probably Mavericks too). Is there anyway to get this back. I know it is a minor change but it is the small things which make a big difference.

Thanks

You can use command left and right arrow to navigate back and forward in a particular webpage..
 

bmac89

macrumors 65816
Aug 3, 2014
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Scrolling between safari tabs

You can use command left and right arrow to navigate back and forward in a particular webpage..

This works - thanks.

Also do you know whether you can scroll between Safari Tabs in Yosemite without a trackpad or magic mouse (using the keyboard)?

Thanks
 

dsemf

macrumors 6502
Jul 26, 2014
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This works - thanks.

Also do you know whether you can scroll between Safari Tabs in Yosemite without a trackpad or magic mouse (using the keyboard)?

Thanks

According to Help >> Safari Help, use Control-Tab or Control-Shift Tab.

DS
 

The19th

macrumors regular
Jul 24, 2014
205
43
NorCal
According to Help >> Safari Help, use Control-Tab or Control-Shift Tab.

Also, command-{ or command-} will cycle to the next/previous tabs as desired.

(btw, that's command-shift-square bracket to get the curly brackets)
 

PsykX

macrumors 68030
Sep 16, 2006
2,744
3,919
Safari crashes on start with DP5 :

*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '*** setObjectForKey: object cannot be nil (key: INSERT INTO history_items (url, domain_expansion, visit_count, daily_visit_counts, weekly_visit_counts, autocomplete_triggers)VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?))'
abort() called
terminating with uncaught exception of type NSException

Cleared my preferences and removed all my plug-ins, any idea ?
 
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