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Samsung Galaxy Note 4
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I am aware that Knox only trips a flag and has nothing to do with being able to flash roms. The bigger concern is that in later versions of Knox, or even outside of Knox, Samsung might decide to lock their bootloaders, on the lines of them region locking the phone activation on the Note 3.
It's how embedded into hardware Knox is becoming. It is looking like the finger print scanner will embed deeply with Knox (Samsung have stated this ) so if you trip your knox counter and can no longer enter than environment - the chances are that your finger print scanner then also no longer works.
HTC One Max actually suffers same problem as soon as you root - but at least unrooting fixes that. With Knox once it's tripped - part of your hardware is basically rendered broken/disabled forever ...
That's the bigger problem going forward - rather than just losing your warranty (which is still morally ambiguous - why should messing with software nullify a consumers rights to a 'hardware warranty' if part of the hardware dies"...)
Like it or not - Knox does step on your rights as a consumer.
Great explanation of Knox...
This is why I sold my N3..... I am seriously thinking of not buying another Samsung phone. I am looking at HTC LG or Sony (Z2) for my next premium smartphone.....
The issue is so many custom ROM's allow you to do things that can break hardware, even rooting allows you to do things that can break hardware.
Your typical over-clocking/volting settings in any CM-based ROM could wreak havoc.
Thanks for the clarification. Yea, like I mentioned, there needs to be a stronger rooting community like there is with iOS. Jailbreaking your iPhone can break your warranty; fortunately, you can unjailbreak. Someone (many?), have to try to hack Knox so it can be reset.
Someone with those skills will not be enticed by a mere $4000
Yeah very true I suppose ...
I was set on a Note 4 for my next upgrade until I read a little on that Knox software. No Samsung phones for me until that crap is gone. Maybe it'd still be worth rooting if all you lose is a fingerprint scanner, I don't want that **** either.
I am thinking my next android will be a Chinese variant. It'll be cheaper and be more open. Not to mention similar or better in specs.
I've got my eye on the Oppo Find 7.
I've got my eye on the Oppo Find 7.
That looks like a great phone! The only thing about buy those variants is they usually don't have LTE. They don't support the bands in the US that use LTE.
http://m.cnet.com/reviews/oppo-find-7/35873276
It's got the LTE bands this time. I was excited. At $599.99, it's way less than the Samsung flagships I usually indulge in.
It's got the LTE bands this time. I was excited. At $599.99, it's way less than the Samsung flagships I usually indulge in.
Very nice! You're right it seems to be GSM and should support LTE!
I might have to pick one up. I wonder if there will be dev support for roms?
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/OPPO-Find-7_id8351
I'd put money on it. We may have to get people to do ports of Chinese ROMs but I think the developing community will be there for it.
I'm thinking most people who like modding like I do, they will notice this phone. No Knox, no locked boot loader, etcetera. Awesome!
The good thing about Oppo is they are officially partnered with Cyanogenmod, they release all the details to the devs, and the stock recovery in the oppo supports CM too. No need for custom recovery.
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only rumour and speculation exist. Don't expect to see the device unveiled / released until Sept / October.