Samsung Galaxy S21 / S21+ / S21 Ultra

[Joho2078]

Are you intrigued enough to not buy any phone until more is known about this phone?

 

[Joho2078]

Anyone skipping these iphones for this phone??

 

[michael9891]

Links?

 

[The Game 161]

Ice has confirmed pretty much QHD at 120hz for S21

 

[kkh786]

One article I read stated Samsung rushing the S21 series with an earlier release could mean a smaller upgrade overall from the S20 series.

That would be a real shame!

 

[The Game 161]

One article I read stated Samsung rushing the S21 series with an earlier release could mean a smaller upgrade overall from the S20 series.

That would be a real shame!

Yeah minor upgrade

Main differences will likely be a

2nd telephoto lens so better zoom
Better exynos chip or SD875
QHD 120HZ
65W charging was rumoured but think ice said no

 

[5105973]

Any rumors about an upgrade to the in display fingerprint sensor? I’m not upgrading even for an improvement on that. (It would take a combination of factors). But I am wondering if Samsung really considers the current fps representative of a good functioning sensor. I sure don’t.

 

[cuzo]

How much would samsung charge to fix this? this isn't covered by the standard warranty. Someone on offerup has this for 200 but the screen is bad.

 

[kkh786]

Any rumors about an upgrade to the in display fingerprint sensor? I’m not upgrading even for an improvement on that. (It would take a combination of factors). But I am wondering if Samsung really considers the current fps representative of a good functioning sensor. I sure don’t.

I don't think its fully a sensor issue its seems to be more a fingerprint pattern of the user issue. I guess they can implement a more widely compatible sensor to cater for a varied pool of fingerprint patterns.

From my experience, my FPS both on my current S20+ and earlier Note10 were flawless akin to iPhone TouchID level performance.

And I suspect if the Samsung testers were seeing similar performance to mine then Samsung won't have the FPS on top of their priority list.

 

[5105973]

I don't think its fully a sensor issue its seems to be more a fingerprint pattern of the user issue. I guess they can implement a more widely compatible sensor to cater for a varied pool of fingerprint patterns.

From my experience, my FPS both on my current S20+ and earlier Note10 were flawless akin to iPhone TouchID level performance.

And I suspect if the Samsung testers were seeing similar performance to mine then Samsung won't have the FPS on top of their priority list.

Whoa, it’s worked as well as TouchId for you?😯 🤯

I’m fine on Touch ID, Pixel’s sensors and the sensor that was on my S9, S8, and my HTC 10. I did have trouble with the first generation Touch ID and the sensor on S7 Edge and S7. My prints used to be a mess when I was doing landscaping work but I haven’t been doing much of that the last 3 years.

Well if it’s really me and not the sensor I need to rethink my commitment to Samsung. I literally can not use this form of biometric authentication on their phones. It’s been a problem on 3 different phones with in display touch sensors now.

I’ve been biometrically locked out of my accounts that I’d set up using my fingerprint on my S8 and S9. I had been kind of waiting for them to upgrade the sensor but I guess now I know I am waiting in vain. 😢

My husband doesn’t have quite the same difficulty I have, but it’s not the best experience for him, either.

I don’t mind unlocking my phone with my passcode. But I’ve gone to long more secure passwords on my accounts. On my iPhone/ipad/SE2 I just use Face ID or Touch ID and I’m in. I get locked out on Samsung so I don’t use my S20 to conduct any kind of business anymore.

I was using my s20 to watch videos, handle emails and some forum posts and to talk to my dad because it was better at being a phone. But my iPhone 12 has a Qualcomm modem now. I don’t have the same phone quality issues on iPhone anymore.

I guess I’ll have to see what happens. I may just eventually replace it with a cellular iPad.

 

[jamezr]

Whoa, it’s worked as well as TouchId for you?😯 🤯

I’m fine on Touch ID, Pixel’s sensors and the sensor that was on my S9, S8, and my HTC 10. I did have trouble with the first generation Touch ID and the sensor on S7 Edge and S7. My prints used to be a mess when I was doing landscaping work but I haven’t been doing much of that the last 3 years.

Well if it’s really me and not the sensor I need to rethink my commitment to Samsung. I literally can not use this form of biometric authentication on their phones. It’s been a problem on 3 different phones with in display touch sensors now.

I’ve been biometrically locked out of my accounts that I’d set up using my fingerprint on my S8 and S9. I had been kind of waiting for them to upgrade the sensor but I guess now I know I am waiting in vain. 😢

My husband doesn’t have quite the same difficulty I have, but it’s not the best experience for him, either.

I don’t mind unlocking my phone with my passcode. But I’ve gone to long more secure passwords on my accounts. On my iPhone/ipad/SE2 I just use Face ID or Touch ID and I’m in. I get locked out on Samsung so I don’t use my S20 to conduct any kind of business anymore.

I was using my s20 to watch videos, handle emails and some forum posts and to talk to my dad because it was better at being a phone. But my iPhone 12 has a Qualcomm modem now. I don’t have the same phone quality issues on iPhone anymore.

I guess I’ll have to see what happens. I may just eventually replace it with a cellular iPad.

I can echo what @kkh786 said about the FPS. I have the Note 20 Ultra and the FPS has been almost perfect.
It has been extremely fast and accurate. Then in these days of wearing a mask in public it has been extremely help to me....

 

[5105973]

I can echo what @kkh786 said about the FPS. I have the Note 20 Ultra and the FPS has been almost perfect.
It has been extremely fast and accurate. Then in these days of wearing a mask in public it has been extremely help to me....

Yeah I guess I am an outlier. Oh well I can continue doing what I'm doing but I will probably have to sit out the next generations unless they change the sensor. Lol I was supposed to be decommissioning Snowball but guess what device I'm posting from and thinking of putting my second sim back in? It is hard to type on this small keyboard though. Pixel 2 has my heart.

 

[ian87w]

Yeah minor upgrade

Main differences will likely be a

2nd telephoto lens so better zoom
Better exynos chip or SD875
QHD 120HZ
65W charging was rumoured but think ice said no

It might be minor for SD865 Galaxy S20, but for Exynos countries, it will probably be a great update if Exynos can finally perform as well and efficient as SD875. It then justifies the premium pricing Samsung is asking for the Exynos versions.

And TBH, other than foldables, one cannot really expect major upgrades on smartphones anymore. I mean there's even Wireless Dex on the S20 already, something that other flagships aside from Huawei don't even have.

 

[The Game 161]

It might be minor for SD865 Galaxy S20, but for Exynos countries, it will probably be a great update if Exynos can finally perform as well and efficient as SD875. It then justifies the premium pricing Samsung is asking for the Exynos versions.

And TBH, other than foldables, one cannot really expect major upgrades on smartphones anymore. I mean there's even Wireless Dex on the S20 already, something that other flagships aside from Huawei don't even have.

Agreed for many the new chip set will be worth it alone.. 2022 will be the one though as will be A chip level hopefully

 

[The Game 161]

Ice’s latest leak

S21 U
WQHD + LTPO 120Hz
Support 45W
108MP HM3
Almost equal width bezel

 

[5105973]

Ice’s latest leak

S21 U
WQHD + LTPO 120Hz
Support 45W
108MP HM3
Almost equal width bezel

Nice. I can’t wait to see more leaks of the actual phone soon. I still can’t believe they’re going to debut it in January.

(Lol I just put my S20 up for trade on a 12 mini. My only androids will be my older Pixels now. I’m exiting the Samsung space for a bit. The mini isn’t coming to me until the end of the month though, so if I see a leak that changes my mind, I can cancel the trade).

But this is going to be a fun one to watch. My husband still maintains a line dedicated to his Samsung. I thought he was going to get the Note 20 or a foldable, but he’s waiting to see what Samsung brings to 2021.

 

[Cod3rror]

I wish they would work on a new image sensor. 108MP HM3 is nice but a smaller megapixel count with a bigger sensor would be better. 1/1.2" or bigger sensor with 48MP would be amazing!

 

[The Game 161]

 

[ian87w]

Wow, if this is true, then the rumor of Samsung merging the Note and S line is going to happen. Kinda makes sense. The Note was supposed to be Samsung’s largest phone, but the S Plus and Ultra were blurring that line. Might as well have a single cleaner lineup.

Thinking the next Note will be the Galaxy Z Fold with S pen support.

 

[The Game 161]

Wow, if this is true, then the rumor of Samsung merging the Note and S line is going to happen. Kinda makes sense. The Note was supposed to be Samsung’s largest phone, but the S Plus and Ultra were blurring that line. Might as well have a single cleaner lineup.

Thinking the next Note will be the Galaxy Z Fold with S pen support.

Yeah seems like that not sure why they would wait til 2022 to remove the note series though. Seems if it supports the s21 then just get rid of it this year.

 

[jamezr]

You beat me to it I saw that and wondered if the S21 Ultra would come with an S pen or just support it...big difference.

 

[The Game 161]

You beat me to it I saw that and wondered if the S21 Ultra would come with an S pen or just support it...big difference.

I’m guessing samsung are thinking if we add separately they can still keep the 5000 battery. I bet we may see cases that gives you option to carry S pen with the phone that way

 

[jamezr]

I’m guessing samsung are thinking if we add separately they can still keep the 5000 battery. I bet we may see cases that gives you option to carry S pen with the phone that way

Great point....it won't come with the S21U but you can use any existing S Pen. It may be Samsung is just adding more functionality....or this is the beginning of the effort to merge the S line and Note lines as Samsung concentrates on foldables

 

[The Game 161]

Spec sheet that’s pretty much official

S21 and s21 plus same cameras as S20

Ultra gets WQHD at 120hz with ltpo and 10x optical zoom

 

[Awesomesince86]

The S21 Ultra looks like a beast. My biggest complaints with the S20 Ultra were no QHD 120HZ, poor cameras, expensive for what it offered, and bad ergonomics. QHD issue is fixed, cameras should be a lot better with laster autofocus and Note 20 hammered out a lot of the issues, rumors are price will drop (no clue how much) and ergonomics will hopefully be better.

If they also upgrade the fingerprint sensor, this will be a hard phone to beat in 2021 unless the Fold 3 or iPhone Pro Max just blow the roof off.