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SteveJUAE

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I tried Microsoft’s integration with the Fold 2, and also tried Dex. At the time I had a Dell XPS 17 plus my MBP for work. Microsoft’s integration is through an app called Your Phone. It is very buggy, at the moment. I’m sure they’ll improve it over time. But for example right now, the handover between the phone and the computer is broken. So if I get a call and I pick it up on my phone while the Your Phone app is open, audio automatically switches to the computer instead of the phone. In fact I cannot pick up a call on the Fold 2 if I’m anywhere near the XPS without Bluetooth distance.

By contrast, on the Mac. I’m given an option of where I want to pick up the call, and it stays on that device.

Dex is very nice in many ways, and particularly if you travel a lot and go somewhere with just a BT keyboard and mouse where you may already have a TV in your hotel room. You can literally use the phone like a relatively good Office editing laptop.

But it’s not yet built as a good replacement for separate apps for messages, phone calls, photos etc. It’s more akin to opening a virtual machine with your phone in it on your desktop. Sure there is a lot you can do with it, but it requires a lot of fidgeting and it doesn’t filter noise out. So you end up getting every notification that’s enabled on the phone bothering you on your laptop. It works the same way on the Mac btw.

So these two options sound similar, but they’re not yet there. I hope they will be. Microsoft has a very good reason to improve the Your Phone experience, and it has already improved dramatically from when it was launched. But Apple does the whole thing as one closed off company. So they have the advantage of developing the entire integration themselves.
This may be your experience but my differs especially as like many countries where calls and sms packages are not compulsory bundled. Most use whatsapp/line/teams etc for both calls and messages or for international use, especially with so many working from home these days

Personally I like the notifications on my laptop

I have watched the app develop and in many areas exceed Apple offerings that even the latest Arm Macs cant implement without bugs and limitations

Then we have the whole thing how W10 and Android file system is just superior especially when you use OneDrive as a common source.

The little edge that IOS/Mac's once had is over and as I noted before is mainly trivial points of minor convenience that seem to be largely over rated as it once was an exclusive bragging point

I am glad its not like IOS implementation and all the restrictions that go with it. This allows expansion in to other areas as the W10 app develops further with Samsung partnership

The whole advantage of Apple developing the entire integration themselves is a double edge sword of entrapment and the tail wagging the dog as we seen here' Re comments on Apple watch holding many back, let alone a myriad of other issues of subscriptions and Itunes libraries etc etc why many cant break free LOL
 

t1328

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This may be your experience but my differs especially as like many countries where calls and sms packages are not compulsory bundled. Most use whatsapp/line/teams etc for both calls and messages or for international use, especially with so many working from home these days

I hear you on that one. My daughter uses Line for pretty much everything. The use of iMessage as a primary is more common in the US.


Personally I like the notifications on my laptop
Can’t argue that either. Obviously a matter of personal preference and of course which apps you have notifications turned on for in the first place. I suppose I could use Bixby routines or IFTTT quite easily to only show me notifications I want while using Dex, or during office hours. So I can get past this issue.

I have watched the app develop and in many areas exceed Apple offerings that even the latest Arm Macs cant implement without bugs and limitations

I’m finding that most apps I use are getting better and better on the M1 Macbook, and I replaced that 2020 XPS 17 that had 64GB RAM, 10th gen 8 core i7, and dedicated graphics card with an M1 MBP 13 w/16GB RAM, and the MBP is not only significantly faster for browsing and MS Office, but also never, ever has any fan noise, and has insane battery life. Frankly, I think the Apple Silicone Macs are a much bigger reason to use Apple than anything else right now until Intel catches up, and/or Windows for ARM improves significantly And Qualcomm’s ARM laptop chips improve a lot too.

The whole advantage of Apple developing the entire integration themselves is a double edge sword of entrapment and the tail wagging the dog as we seen here' Re comments on Apple watch holding many back, let alone a myriad of other issues of subscriptions and Itunes libraries etc etc why many cant break free LOL

I agree with you 100% that it is a double edged sword, and an expensive one at that. The iOS file system issue is also very much one of my biggest complaints. At the end of the day though, both have their strengths and weaknesses. Neither approach is perfect. Glad we have great options.
 
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Tulani

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For me I am actually liking what Android is doing and content with the hardware embodied in the S21.

I have enjoyed every bit of adjusting the settings to my preferences and I am still discovering and doing that to the utmost satisfaction.

I will go back to iOS whenever that will be but I would not be “voting” for the merger of these two platforms or wishing one was the other.

I like the diversity and the choice it is giving.
 

Awesomesince86

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Sep 18, 2016
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That's just some random YouTuber that created a concept video based on nothing. You'll find hundreds of them every year over what the new IPhone will look like.
 

Healer Flame

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That's just some random YouTuber that created a concept video based on nothing. You'll find hundreds of them every year over what the new IPhone will look like.

He is not a random guy. This channel is a well known and the concept is based on first infos. Of course i am not saying the phone will look like on the video (i hope not) but at least rumours starting popping out.
 

cuzo

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Sep 23, 2012
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Android fills the itch but afterwards after the itch is gone ios is back in the pocket.

In the perfect world we need to carry two phones to fulfill all the needs. I do miss Droids and really think the ios screen is underwhelming but the ios systems just better for daily usage.
 

tt061282

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Coming from iPhone after all these years... I have zero complaints on the S21. It seems they've gotten rid of most of what aggravated me with my last S7, S8, Note 8. This phone is truly tremendous
 

Shanghaichica

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Apr 8, 2013
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They Are finally doing a US style promotion in the U.K. You can get £200 off any of the S21 series when you trade in any phone. Even a broken one.
 

The Game 161

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Dec 15, 2010
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They Are finally doing a US style promotion in the U.K. You can get £200 off any of the S21 series when you trade in any phone. Even a broken one.
I just looked if I could trade in my se 2020 but 64GB not available lol typical

£799 for the ultra would be tempting
 

Tulani

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kkh786

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So I've do the unthinkable.. gave up my S21 Ultra for a S21 Plus!

As reported earlier my pinky finger was having real bad time with the size and weight of the S21 Ultra! I just couldn't deal with it.

That phone however was perfection so I went for the second best in the line up with S21 Plus!

So now it seems I have had all three models of the S21 range this year.

At least the wife gets an early upgrade.. she's happy to take the S21 Ultra off my hands.
 
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