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mjschabow

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I did the same with my AWU...stopped wearing it for a weekend to see how much I would miss it...funny thing happened though. i haven't missed it in over 2 weeks now. Might end up selling it....
Still kinda mad at Apple for eSim. Then the rumors of a buttonless iPhone 15 makes me cringe....
It's actually a breath of fresh air not getting notifications buzz on your wrist over and over. My fiance made a comment before Christmas when I was putting up decorations, that when watching me on our Blink camera I literally looked at my watch 2 or 3 times per minute. Made me think a little about disconnecting in general.
 

keithop

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It's actually a breath of fresh air not getting notifications buzz on your wrist over and over. My fiance made a comment before Christmas when I was putting up decorations, that when watching me on our Blink camera I literally looked at my watch 2 or 3 times per minute. Made me think a little about disconnecting in general.

yeah totally agree with this. Not saying I'll be able to do it, but I'd definitely like to be able to disconnect.... I keep playing with "focus" modes and I have made tentative steps towards reducing the level of interaction.
 

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I did the same with my AWU...stopped wearing it for a weekend to see how much I would miss it...funny thing happened though. i haven't missed it in over 2 weeks now. Might end up selling it....
Still kinda mad at Apple for eSim. Then the rumors of a buttonless iPhone 15 makes me cringe....
Yeah makes me cringe, too. And I'm still not happy about e-sim only when previously we had options. Just like we had options for Bluetooth accessories and lightning accessories so it wasn't as if removing the aux jack was keeping people from advancing to those other options.
 

Bkdodger

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I can't see myself not wearing my AWU lol but then again I like it as a watch and half the time I don't even pay attention to the notifications on the wrist lmao.. I keep eyeballing the S23U I went by BB over the weekend and almost pulled the trigger again.. but I don't want to get rid of my flip.. and after seeing some of the pics on here with the red phone I'm in love
 

aggie99

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I can't see myself not wearing my AWU lol but then again I like it as a watch and half the time I don't even pay attention to the notifications on the wrist lmao.. I keep eyeballing the S23U I went by BB over the weekend and almost pulled the trigger again.. but I don't want to get rid of my flip.. and after seeing some of the pics on here with the red phone I'm in love
This is pretty much my use case with the AWU. I rarely use it for notifications but I like it as a watch and a fitness tracker and to use to control spotify either on my patio or my boat when I'm in the water. The Galaxy Watch can do both of those but I just like the way the AW does it better. I'd love to completely break free from Apple but I just don't see it happening.
 
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jamezr

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The interesting thing about the AW is that it "just works" in taking over notifications etc from your phone. So suddenly, everyone is VERY attached to their AW because they're glancing at it all day for those notifications. What happened when I stopped wearing mine was I realised I wasn't missing out on anything, the notifications were just popping up on my phone instead :)

That freed me from the AW and in my case, meant I could wear some of my posh old fashioned analogue watches ;-)



Wellll mad because of the principle of esim or mad because of the complete mess most cell providers are making of the implementation?

In principle, I kinda like esim. No need to get some stupid physical bit of plastic BUT it's only good if you can instantly move it between devices with zero hassle, downtime or weirdness.



well yeah me too :( years ago I saw a patent for a completely touch+haptic macbook and tbh I thought they'd have gone there by now. I'm very very glad they haven't but I kinda feel it's inevitable.
Mad at Apple as in changing to something that wasn't ready for the volume and complexity. mad that true leadship is bringing everyone along with you when changing technology. Not making a change and forcing evetyone to change and a whole industry to make drastic changes to accomodate your change. The end result has been to alientate their customers. By making a huge change when the change mechanism was not in place or evolved to the point that it could handle the change in the first place.
Make no mistake....Apple knew or should have known the carriers did not have the channels open to support the eSim change.
They just used their clout and might as the smartphone space leader to make the change....no matter how it affected everyone else.
Is the eSim process easier? Not so far...will it be? Maybe in a few years but not right now. Who benefits the most from the change? Apple by not having to make a sim card traying for their phones. It will save them millions and millions because fot he sheer volume of phones they sell.
 

Bkdodger

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This is pretty much my use case with the AWU. I rarely use it for notifications but I like it as a watch and a fitness tracker and to use to control spotify either on my patio or my boat when I'm in the water. The Galaxy Watch can do both of those but I just like the way the AW does it better. I'd love to completely break free from Apple but I just don't see it happening.

Exactly ... workouts and music control...plus I bought too many bands to sell it ...haha
 
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Mad at Apple as in changing to something that wasn't ready for the volume and complexity. mad that true leadship is bringing everyone along with you when changing technology. Not making a change and forcing evetyone to change and a whole industry to make drastic changes to accomodate your change. The end result has been to alientate their customers. By making a huge change when the change mechanism was not in place or evolved to the point that it could handle the change in the first place.
Make no mistake....Apple knew or should have known the carriers did not have the channels open to support the eSim change.
They just used their clout and might as the smartphone space leader to make the change....no matter how it affected everyone else.
Is the eSim process easier? Not so far...will it be? Maybe in a few years but not right now. Who benefits the most from the change? Apple by not having to make a sim card traying for their phones. It will save them millions and millions because fot he sheer volume of phones they sell.
Let's not forget Tim Cook's arrogant answer to someone where he told them to get their Mom an iPhone instead of addressing how Apple could make its phone play nicer with phones outside of the proprietary closed imessage system.

It was a funny quip if coming from someone else, but I expect better from the man at the top.
 

keithop

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Let's not forget Tim Cook's arrogant answer to someone where he told them to get their Mom an iPhone instead of addressing how Apple could make its phone play nicer with phones outside of the proprietary closed imessage system.

It was a funny quip if coming from someone else, but I expect better from the man at the top.

yeah and I hate to sound like I'm defending Apple ;( but arrogance aside, it's pure business right? There's a slight business advantage to "play nicely with others" and adopting RCS and a potential massive business disadvantage to losing that closed proprietary killer app....

I mean again, I'm rolling my eyes and wondering what the world is coming to just as much as anyone else when I read articles like this but if I were working for Apple's business unit, it would be encouraging me to stay the course.

 
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keithop

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Mad at Apple as in changing to something that wasn't ready for the volume and complexity. mad that true leadship is bringing everyone along with you when changing technology. Not making a change and forcing evetyone to change and a whole industry to make drastic changes to accomodate your change. The end result has been to alientate their customers. By making a huge change when the change mechanism was not in place or evolved to the point that it could handle the change in the first place.
Make no mistake....Apple knew or should have known the carriers did not have the channels open to support the eSim change.
They just used their clout and might as the smartphone space leader to make the change....no matter how it affected everyone else.
Is the eSim process easier? Not so far...will it be? Maybe in a few years but not right now. Who benefits the most from the change? Apple by not having to make a sim card traying for their phones. It will save them millions and millions because fot he sheer volume of phones they sell.

kinda what you get when you shop Apple though right?

First to do away with floppies, first to do away with cdroms, first to do away with chargers in the box... proprietary mega expensive apple cables coming out of the wazoo.

The world catches up and apple customers moan about it but keep on buying them! a while later everyone else in the industry does the same.
 

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yeah and I hate to sound like I'm defending Apple ;( but arrogance aside, it's pure business right? There's a slight business advantage to "play nicely with others" and adopting RCS and a potential massive business disadvantage to losing that closed proprietary killer app....

I mean again, I'm rolling my eyes and wondering what the world is coming to just as much as anyone else when I read articles like this but if I were working for Apple's business unit, it would be encouraging me to stay the course.

It's business but I just expect a more nuanced public response from Tim Cook.

Or at least I used to. But this is the same man who had Apple invest billions in China's economy/industry/infrastructure and turn around and say we in the US just don't have the knowledge and skill to build things for Apple. I don't think of him in quite the same regard as I used to after reading about that. I know, business is business. Well part of business is understanding customers are going to feel a certain way about your business practices and may very well reflect that in what they buy.

Good will can be eroded.
 

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1 TB lavender pink is packed up and ready to be returned.

Next up, 512 GB Blue. I asked my husband his preference for what I should buy because whatever I get is likely to get traded for his lime green 512 gb, which for some reason I can look at without getting sick. I prefer lavender but at this point I'm fine with green or blue I don't care as long as I can use an S23 ultra and not feel like something is drilling into my brain through my eyes.

I gave up on the idea of 1TB because I am still keeping my S22 Ultra. So I'll start the new one as new and have more storage available out of the 512 GB.
 
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That should be a fun car. Big difference from what you had. I had a Honda CRX a long time ago. Small, fast, great on gas. Surprisingly roomy car too.

Due to gas costs I sold my Toyota RAV4 2017 for a Nissan Versa. Great little car. Great gas mileage. Due to the crazy used car prices I barely paid anything for it new. Had to wait a few months to get it last year but it was worth it.

Hope you enjoy the Miata. Mazda makes some great cars/SUVs!
I'm excited. This isn't the first Miata I've owned, either! But this is the first time that I am not going to be daily driving it, more so a weekend, fun car. I have a 2017 Mazda 3 hatchback for the daily and I really love it. It's comfortable, it's plenty fun, and it's a great little car. I'm such a huge Mazda fan, they've done me so well and I'll keep buying them!

I've already got a bunch of modifications for the Miata! Android Auto headunit most importantly, hah!
 

Technerd108

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It's business but I just expect a more nuanced public response from Tim Cook.

Or at least I used to. But this is the same man who had Apple invest billions in China's economy/industry/infrastructure and turn around and say we in the US just don't have the knowledge and skill to build things for Apple. I don't think of him in quite the same regard as I used to after reading about that. I know, business is business. Well part of business is understanding customers are going to feel a certain way about your business practices and may very well reflect that in what they buy.

Good will can be eroded.

Completely agree. The hubris and complete detachment from any sense of doing what is right for the country that gave the conditions for Apple to be created in the first place and grow to what it is now.

I have no problem with any other country. China is an amazing country with a rich history. BUT they are a Communist dictatorship and have at the very least competitive ambition's with the US if not more sinister intentions as an end goal.

As time passes and China gains more and more power and money they are hiding their true intentions of global domination less and less. Yet people like Tim Cook have essentially given the Chinese a huge advantage they would have never had on their own. Many corporate leaders took the Faustian bargain of incredibly cheap production costs while giving up their IP in the process, building or designing state of the art production plants and paying for them to some extent of not completely. Now China has them owned.

We in America were told by doing this the Chinese would see the benefits of the capitalist system and slowly turn away from Communism and be a strong ally like Japan. But that promise was false and the opposite has happened. It has only enriched and emboldened the CCP. Tim Cook bears a lot of responsibility for this.

Apple being the first trillion dollar company had a unique opportunity to bring manufacturing back to America. This would have brought thousands of high paying jobs. It would have boosted our national security and economy. It would have set off a spark that other companies would follow. It would have given Apple a huge leap in control over the manufacturing and production schedules of their products. Instead we were told by Cook that there aren't enough high skilled workers and that the infrastructure doesn't exist here. (Maybe because it was dismantled, sold, and exported to places like China)

To bring back manufacturing to the US would be costly at first but it could be done. The entire supply chain that is in China could be replicated here. But it would take vision, sacrifice, and perseverance and a cut to the bottom line.

But most of corporate leadership thinks the average American is an idiot. Lazy and stupid. They don't have any allegiance to their home country when they sell to global markets and are beholden to shareholders. They see how they can maximize profit at all costs as that is all that matters to them. Let America fall apart and waste away, who cares when you have larger emerging markets like India, and China.

This is a view of the world that seriously angers me. The Chinese are very smart and they understand how important making things is to an economy. I wish we could all cooperate and get along as countries and share are wealth so everyone around the world has a decent standard of living. But this is not historically accurate mindset. Countries don't share beyond what makes economic sense. Beyond that they compete. Who has the most money at the end of the day dictates how the world is run. To the victors run the spoils.

In the next 50 years unless we dramatically shift course by bringing many industries back to the US our entire way of life will dramatically change for the worse. We may have already waited too long.

The advantage that is unique to the United States is not that our labor is the cheapest or best but that our combination of free Enterprise, free education and the idea anyone can be a success creates more entrepreneurship which leads to new ideas and products and to companies like Apple. You don't see a company like Apple or Tesla, or Microsoft, etc created in communist dictatorship? You have tons of copies but that actual innovation never happens in heavily government controlled countries.

So how is some kid in his basement going to start up the next Apple or Microsoft in America when so many have simply given up on the country as a whole? You aren't going to get that type of company in any other country because the conditions are different not because America is superior or other places lack talent but the unique combination of conditions in America are what make it great, the mix of many people from many backgrounds and national origins, the idea anyone can make it, the large free economy, lack of burdensome regulations and government control, etc.

And finally the idea that Americans don't know how to or are willing to work in a factory is such an insult to the large blue color industry here. There are entire states filled with people who would love to stop working 2 and 3 gig or service jobs to get a decent paying factory job. Not everyone goes to college and not everyone wants to. Working with your hands used to be a source of pride and now for some reason it is looked down upon. People feel proud when they are a part of producing things people all over the world use. I know many Americans who would line up for a good factory job if there were any.
 
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I think I may have found a potential life hack in getting out of the Apple Ecosystem. I chose not to wear my Apple Watch Ultra for 2 weeks before ordering this phone. What did I realize? I actually really like not wearing a watch! Can't wait to sell it. My MacBook has been collecting dust for the last 6 months as well. We use our Pixelbook more because it's super easy to quickly open and take care of a quick task. For the first time in probably a good 5-6 years, I find myself in a place where I have much less attachment to Apple as a whole.

Hope it works out for you mate
 

keithop

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The advantage that is unique to the United States is not that our labor is the cheapest or best but that our combination of free Enterprise, free education and the idea anyone can be a success creates more entrepreneurship which leads to new ideas and products and to companies like Apple. You don't see a company like Apple or Tesla, or Microsoft, etc created in communist dictatorship? You have tons of copies but that actual innovation never happens in heavily government controlled countries.

I always love the pride Americans show in their country and people. I wish the UK was more like that :(

I don't know what it's like over in the states but in the UK, there's no visible backlash over stuff being made in China at all, and trying to say "made in Britain" doesn't seem to carry any weight tbh.
 

h.gilbert

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I always love the pride Americans show in their country and people. I wish the UK was more like that :(

I don't know what it's like over in the states but in the UK, there's no visible backlash over stuff being made in China at all, and trying to say "made in Britain" doesn't seem to carry any weight tbh.
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Technerd108

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I always love the pride Americans show in their country and people. I wish the UK was more like that :(

I don't know what it's like over in the states but in the UK, there's no visible backlash over stuff being made in China at all, and trying to say "made in Britain" doesn't seem to carry any weight tbh.

I think every country should have a certain amount of pride and humility. I was not trying to say that America is better than any other country rather that it is the amalgam of countries represented in America that gives her an advantage and unique perspective not seen in many other countries in the world. It is that unique perspective borrowed from many nations that is our strength.

I love Asia and have immense respect for it's history and culture. I love Western Europe and have immense respect for it's history and culture. I have great reverence and can see the beauty in most countries of the world.

What I don't have reverence for are systems of governance that seek to control and manipulate for their advantage the people they have been given the privilege to govern. I don't like systems of governance that seek to dominate others through absolute control no matter the cost to their people. No government or system is perfect and all have stains of blood on their shoulders but at least some give autonomy to trade and the people they govern.

I think pride in making things is important though and for things to be made locally regardless of country is vitally important to every country. Something we in our modern culture have seem to forget. In the name of global trade and free markets a lot of people have been exploited and land has been destroyed.

So yes I have pride in America. I am grateful to the UK for giving us the basis of our system and culture we borrow heavily from. I think the UK is a great country and I love it dearly. The thing is other countries seem to want to disparage the UK or America for it's past without understanding that they are truly no different and if there respective countries would have had the same conditions most likely similar things would have taken place. It is not just what you have done but what you are doing and how much freedom of thought, movement and commerce do you allow your people. I do believe that the constitution and the rights given to citizens are invaluable and a huge gift often times squandered by the American people. I have great pride in our forefathers thinking and Constitution. It is not perfect and they were not perfect but their ideals were some of the best thus created anywhere!

I am also acutely aware of the cultures America has taken advantage of like our incredible native American people who I have the utmost respect and admiration of and the African American people who were forced into slavery and denigrated as a people and the many other cultures America has exploited and taken advantage of over the years. I am not proud of that history but we have the framework to change and learn from our mistakes and do our best to never repeat them.
 
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keithop

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So yes I have pride in America. I am grateful to the UK for giving us the basis of our system and culture we borrow heavily from. I think the UK is a great country and I love it dearly. The thing is other countries seem to want to disparage the UK or America for it's past without understanding that they are truly no different and if there respective countries would have had the same conditions most likely similar things would have taken place. It is not just what you have done but what you are doing and how much freedom of thought, movement and commerce do you allow your people. I do believe that the constitution and the rights given to citizens are invaluable and a huge gift often times squandered by the American people. I have great pride in our forefathers thinking and Constitution. It is not perfect and they were not perfect but their ideals were some of the best thus created anywhere!

VERY well said!!
 

Technerd108

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I also want to apologize for going so off topic.

Let's resume with s23.....

Any more people have some of the special edition colors?? Love to see more pictures m
 

majkom

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LOL yeah :D we do enjoy taking the p out of ourselves :) kind of a national pastime but it's a shame that it's actually got that reputation for a lot of people :(
And now imagine that you are actually quite fine in comparison with mess here in post communist counties.. we are really ****ed here;) elites been destroyed by communists, than after communism new “elites“ were made by uncontrolled wild privatisation (many times just shady deals of few with good connection to those in power).. there is no pride here, no strong moral grounding..
 
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I was browsing at Best Buy about an hour ago, I really like the AirPods Pro 2, and I am not planning on replacing them. However, I saw they had the Galaxy Buds 2 for $99. I figured I'd try them out, what the heck! I haven't had more than a few minutes to listen to them. I don't hate them. I'm not going to try and make up some explanation or terminology of what I think I notice is different between the two, I know the AirPods Pro 2 are better (they're significantly more expensive) but I don't hate these Galaxy Buds 2. I'll keep listening.

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