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Krimsonmyst

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Dec 18, 2012
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That's what I thought and has been my experience

I just keep reading that Android needs to be customised to make it usable, so thought I might be missing something

The ios experience is uniform for everyone. It works the same all around the world when you open the box.

The android experience is LARGELY similar, but a lot of people will like to make it work the way they like.

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I appreciate the iPhone Jailbreaking community prefer a more customisable feel and some of the examples I would like to see included in the next iOS update like quick access for settings etc. I don't want to jailbreak my iPhone so have resisted the temptation. You make a fair point about people choosing to customise their Android devices and admit I did a fair bit of that myself whether it was the HTC's or Samsung I owned. I suppose I like the fact all my apps are now on one screen without having to use the menu and have screens empty where I've chosen not to fill with widgets. I think I just prefer the easier option. :)

And that's certainly your right to like doing it that way. Doesn't mean the customisation route is inferior.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Jan 17, 2013
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The ios experience is uniform for everyone. It
And that's certainly your right to like doing it that way. Doesn't mean the customisation route is inferior.
I didn't suggest it was 'inferior' and was very straight about that. My point in every discussion concerning a comparison is neither is better nor worse, its just down to the preference of the individual. Its very difficult to offer opinions when comparing experiences between devices as ultimately it gets rather touchy if you state reason's for preferring one over the other. I'll try and be clearer in future. :)
 

paulsalter

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Aug 10, 2008
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The ios experience is uniform for everyone. It works the same all around the world when you open the box.

The android experience is LARGELY similar, but a lot of people will like to make it work the way they like.

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And that's certainly your right to like doing it that way. Doesn't mean the customisation route is inferior.

Agreed, thats why I like options to do things

Item 4 in the OP I don't understand about to many options, you are not forced to use them

If I or You or anyone else here bought an S3 today, we would all have the same experience, but we can change it if we want, out the box the phone works without issues (apart from any regional variations)

For me having the option to customise is the best route, those that don't want to do this don't have to
 

Krimsonmyst

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Dec 18, 2012
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I didn't suggest it was 'inferior' and was very straight about that. My point in every discussion concerning a comparison is neither is better nor worse, its just down to the preference of the individual. Its very difficult to offer opinions when comparing experiences between devices as ultimately it gets rather touchy if you state reason's for preferring one over the other. I'll try and be clearer in future. :)

Apologies for misunderstanding.
 

Black Magic

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General question to all, I see this mentioned a lot here, what is the customisation that needs doing on Android whereas iOS just works out the box

When I had my iPhone, yes everything just worked for me as it was
When I got my Samsung, it just worked for me exactly the same
When I got my N7 I optionally changed settings to see what it can do

Looks like I hurt some feelings and folks started ridiculing because I don't agree with them. Sad and I pray for our planet. We are on an Apple forum!

Anyways, in regards to settings, Google makes money off of snooping and violating your privacy. Going through an Android phone and checking all the settings is in everyone's best interest. Automatic Location Check-in and uploading all your photos online are things you may want to review.
 

YourAvgUser

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Jan 19, 2013
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I like that I must be "on the bandwagon" because I agree with a popular opinion
And no I'm not one of the people who has to go in and screw around with every setting on my phone I don't make folders because I don't see the point
I have adjusted my brightness once and that was just to turn off the auto brightness

I use my phone a lot but I like to spend my time texting friends and playing games not seeing how many different colors I can make my LED blink and how many different types of clock widgets I can add to my home screen. But hey what does my opinion matter I'm just on the bandwagon

The average Android user is naive. iOS separates settings by iOS system settings (such as when you want to change the notification center) and app settings. Few realize this.
 

KentuckyHouse

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Jan 29, 2010
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Looks like I hurt some feelings and folks started ridiculing because I don't agree with them. Sad and I pray for our planet. We are on an Apple forum!

You said it yourself...we're on an Apple forum.

The problem is, this one little section is devoted to alternatives to iOS devices, and we had to beg in order to get that. You posted this rant in that section...what did you expect was going to happen???

To be honest, you should've posted this in one of the other sections of the site if you were looking to ward people away from the S3. When you post it here, those of us that have and love the S3 (and soon the S4) are only going to take exception to it.

IMO, you were looking for exactly the response you got. And you deserved it.
 

paulsalter

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Aug 10, 2008
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Anyways, in regards to settings, Google makes money off of snooping and violating your privacy. Going through an Android phone and checking all the settings is in everyone's best interest. Automatic Location Check-in and uploading all your photos online are things you may want to review.

Checked these settings and they are enabled, just as I set them, not sure of your point

If google wants to anonymously read my data and provide me ads based on these then so be it, they provide me a good free service based on this, no complaints here

I am not as paranoid as many
 

Black Magic

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Checked these settings and they are enabled, just as I set them, not sure of your point

If google wants to anonymously read my data and provide me ads based on these then so be it, they provide me a good free service based on this, no complaints here

I am not as paranoid as many

Paranoia has nothing to do with it. There maybe some places or some pics that you dont want the public to know about. You said it yourself, those settings are ENABLED by default. Not good in my opinion but if you like private pics uploaded by default online then more power to you.
 

bmt134

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Dec 6, 2012
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I know this may hurt some feelings for those that fall in love with a brand but I thought I would share my thoughts on my favorite Apple forum.

I have an extra phone which is a Galaxy S3 which I just recently received. I have to say it left a lot to be desired and in no way does it measure it to the iPhone 5/4S IMHO. It's really a hot mess and I find it hard to believe so many folks are impressed with this device. Let me list of a few complaints that I have:

1. OS and software lacks polish and uniformity. Some OS and Samsung apps have settings that you can adjust by clicking the menu button, others don't.

2. Settings that change and turn back on by itself. Look under Google Accounts and check out Maps and Latitude. If you try to uncheck Automatic Check-Ins, it turns back on by itself.

3. Waiting on 4.2 update. How long has it been out? What a fragmented mess.

4. Too many settings. I mean there are tons of them and its a pain in the ass going through and finding them just to get your phone just right.

5. A lot of the features are half baked and are just there to fill out a feature check list. Facial recognition anyone?


I'm so unimpressed with this device, I wish I could sell it. Android and Samsung have a LONG way to go before they can catch Apple.

A lot of generic points that a person without the phone can "claim."
 

Krimsonmyst

macrumors 6502
Dec 18, 2012
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Looks like I hurt some feelings and folks started ridiculing because I don't agree with them. Sad and I pray for our planet. We are on an Apple forum!

Anyways, in regards to settings, Google makes money off of snooping and violating your privacy. Going through an Android phone and checking all the settings is in everyone's best interest. Automatic Location Check-in and uploading all your photos online are things you may want to review.

Google doesn't violate your privacy. When you sign up to Gmail, or Google Docs, or Google Play, you agree to terms and conditions.
And you don't think Apple collects information from you? Pretty much EVERY web based company nowadays will have some sort of information tracking built into their services, for the sake of better catering and tailoring their services to their users.

Google is actually very open about their tracking - to the point where they actually have a profile on you. You can go and check it out, and see exactly what they have on you. Mine says Male, aged 18-24, Australia, and that I like Smart Phones, Tablet PCs, Video Games and Social Networks. And yes, that is 100% accurate to me, but it's hardly enough to start stalking me - those details could be true for thousands of people.

If you seriously think Apple doesn't track who you are, what you do and what you use your phone for just as much as Google, then you're deluded, my friend.

In this post, you've tried to look like someone who is open to new ideas and new systems, but in reality you're just an Apple fanboy who is hiding under the guise of 'I used an S3, so I must be open to change!'. Your original post was full of anecdotal inaccuracies that you provide no proof of, and now you're criticising us for disagreeing with what you call 'opinion'.

If you wanted nothing but a circle jerk of agreeance on your thinly veiled android hate post, you shouldn't have posted it in the alternative to iOS forum.

This forum is full of people who enjoy using more than one mobile platform (or maybe use one that isn't Apple's), and your post of uninformed, opinionated statements for why you think the S3 sucks reeks of blind rejection of anything that doesn't have a fruit logo on it.
 

Cod3rror

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Apr 18, 2010
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Reminds me of the movie Shawshank Redemption. One of the guys was imprisoned for so long, when he finally got his freedom back, he couldn't take it and killed himself.

GOLD!

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Black Magic

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The picture above is one of the funniest things I saw in a while. Instant classic!
 

Black Magic

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Sep 30, 2012
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Google doesn't violate your privacy. When you sign up to Gmail, or Google Docs, or Google Play, you agree to terms and conditions.
And you don't think Apple collects information from you? Pretty much EVERY web based company nowadays will have some sort of information tracking built into their services, for the sake of better catering and tailoring their services to their users.

Google is actually very open about their tracking - to the point where they actually have a profile on you. You can go and check it out, and see exactly what they have on you. Mine says Male, aged 18-24, Australia, and that I like Smart Phones, Tablet PCs, Video Games and Social Networks. And yes, that is 100% accurate to me, but it's hardly enough to start stalking me - those details could be true for thousands of people.

If you seriously think Apple doesn't track who you are, what you do and what you use your phone for just as much as Google, then you're deluded, my friend.

In this post, you've tried to look like someone who is open to new ideas and new systems, but in reality you're just an Apple fanboy who is hiding under the guise of 'I used an S3, so I must be open to change!'. Your original post was full of anecdotal inaccuracies that you provide no proof of, and now you're criticising us for disagreeing with what you call 'opinion'.

If you wanted nothing but a circle jerk of agreeance on your thinly veiled android hate post, you shouldn't have posted it in the alternative to iOS forum.

This forum is full of people who enjoy using more than one mobile platform (or maybe use one that isn't Apple's), and your post of uninformed, opinionated statements for why you think the S3 sucks reeks of blind rejection of anything that doesn't have a fruit logo on it.

You assume too much. I have owned several Android phones before and to be honest Android just plains sucks IMHO. The newer version are better than the previous but it's the same old crap. You can't put syrup on **** and think you got pancakes! I also provided my points to back up my view, but in your mind I now need to provide proof?

Funny, it seems like you are coming off uninformed and opinionated just like you claim I am. Are you upset because I have my own opinion? If you don't agree, why devolve into name calling and ridiculing? How about just not reply to the thread? Do you feel threatened by a differing opinion?

Grow up.
 

Krimsonmyst

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Dec 18, 2012
302
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You assume too much. I have owned several Android phones before and to be honest Android just plains sucks IMHO. The newer version are better than the previous but it's the same old crap. You can't put syrup on **** and think you got pancakes! I also provided my points to back up my view, but in your mind I now need to provide proof?

Funny, it seems like you are coming off uninformed and opinionated just like you claim I am. Are you upset because I have my own opinion? If you don't agree, why devolve into name calling and ridiculing? How about just not reply to the thread? Do you feel threatened by a differing opinion?

Grow up.

The 5 points that you listed were all things that iOS has issues with as well, but it's ok on iOS and a problem on Android?

At least be consistent.
 

bmac4

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Feb 14, 2013
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I know this may hurt some feelings for those that fall in love with a brand but I thought I would share my thoughts on my favorite Apple forum.

I have an extra phone which is a Galaxy S3 which I just recently received. I have to say it left a lot to be desired and in no way does it measure it to the iPhone 5/4S IMHO. It's really a hot mess and I find it hard to believe so many folks are impressed with this device. Let me list of a few complaints that I have:

1. OS and software lacks polish and uniformity. Some OS and Samsung apps have settings that you can adjust by clicking the menu button, others don't.

2. Settings that change and turn back on by itself. Look under Google Accounts and check out Maps and Latitude. If you try to uncheck Automatic Check-Ins, it turns back on by itself.

3. Waiting on 4.2 update. How long has it been out? What a fragmented mess.

4. Too many settings. I mean there are tons of them and its a pain in the ass going through and finding them just to get your phone just right.

5. A lot of the features are half baked and are just there to fill out a feature check list. Facial recognition anyone?


I'm so unimpressed with this device, I wish I could sell it. Android and Samsung have a LONG way to go before they can catch Apple.

Do you realize that there are threads upon thread talking about people distaste for android. Why are you wasting our time with another one? You love your iPhone why do you need to tell us why you hate android?
 
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Black Magic

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The 5 points that you listed were all things that iOS has issues with as well, but it's ok on iOS and a problem on Android?

At least be consistent.

How exactly do points 2-5 have anything to do with iOS? Did you even read the points or did you just see RED when you read the title?
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Jan 17, 2013
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Wales, United Kingdom
I wouldn't give the S3 the thumbs down. I owned one and enjoyed my experience and have recommended it to others. I chose to upgrade to an iPhone 5 and couldn't be happier, but that doesn't mean the S3 was a bad phone. The iPhone just suited my needs better. It's not a competition in my eyes. :)
 

MegamanX

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May 13, 2013
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I know this may hurt some feelings for those that fall in love with a brand but I thought I would share my thoughts on my favorite Apple forum.

I have an extra phone which is a Galaxy S3 which I just recently received. I have to say it left a lot to be desired and in no way does it measure it to the iPhone 5/4S IMHO. It's really a hot mess and I find it hard to believe so many folks are impressed with this device. Let me list of a few complaints that I have:

1. OS and software lacks polish and uniformity. Some OS and Samsung apps have settings that you can adjust by clicking the menu button, others don't.

2. Settings that change and turn back on by itself. Look under Google Accounts and check out Maps and Latitude. If you try to uncheck Automatic Check-Ins, it turns back on by itself.

3. Waiting on 4.2 update. How long has it been out? What a fragmented mess.

4. Too many settings. I mean there are tons of them and its a pain in the ass going through and finding them just to get your phone just right.

5. A lot of the features are half baked and are just there to fill out a feature check list. Facial recognition anyone?


I'm so unimpressed with this device, I wish I could sell it. Android and Samsung have a LONG way to go before they can catch Apple.

Feels to me like a good part of this post was a 100% troll post.

1. Yeah I agree not always the best there.

2. I happen to know you are wrong there. It does work like it should where it stays off. This is 100% user error.

3. 4.2 brought new features to the Nexus line. If you look at the list of new "features" the only one that really that was the manufactures would really use was lock screen widgets. Other wise those were generally features that were already replaced by different manufactures or were all 3rd party stuff any way. So a no issue. I will agree that updates need to get better.

4. It is called choices and setting up your phone EXACTLY how you want it. Apple assumes and treats their users like they are stupid and incapable of figuring out what they like best.

5. Umm your point being. Apple does that all the time with there stuff. Some of the features are gimmicky across the board. Everyone does that.
 

VulchR

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Jun 8, 2009
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@OP: I have a iP 4S, enjoy Apple's products and have often expressed concerns about Google's collection of data. However, I have to say that the tone of your post was a little combative. The problem is that encourages the tit-for-tat 'fan-boy' nonsense from the Android crowd (interestingly, not so much from the BB or Windows crowd if indeed they exist). Anyways, the S3 is not indicative of current progress for either Android or Samsung. Just sayin'. FWIW I still prefer iOS, but I am looking into buying a tablet and iPads are bit pricey so I am looking at Android tablets.
 
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