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SteveJUAE

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Well I am nearly flipped out

5 freaking days and 2km away and still no delivery time allocated

Thank goodness it's for the wife otherwise I would be really :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
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SteveJUAE

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wow....any point in going over there and having a word with someone?
I would normally but this some sort of depot plus do not want to get done for GBH LOL
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Have you called?
Have I called @#%%@@#$, yes LOL spent more in calls than delivery fee as there is no free phone number and call waiting crappy music whilst on hold etc etc

Email gets me this:

Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting J&T Express.

We are truly sorry to hear that you have not received the parcel yet.

The matter has been escalated to the relevant department accordingly, they will proceed with further investigations and get back to you within 3 to 5 working days.

Should you require further assistance please feel free to revert to us at support@jtexpress.my and we would be glad to assist you.


Best Regards,

Ramlah

Customer Service Team
J&T Express (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd
1300 - 80 - 9000
http://www.jtexpress.my/
 
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I would normally but this some sort of depot plus do not want to get done for GBH LOL
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Have I called @#%%@@#$, yes LOL spent more in calls than delivery fee as there is no free phone number and call waiting crappy music whilst on hold etc etc

Email gets me this:

Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting J&T Express.

We are truly sorry to hear that you have not received the parcel yet.

The matter has been escalated to the relevant department accordingly, they will proceed with further investigations and get back to you within 3 to 5 working days.

Should you require further assistance please feel free to revert to us at support@jtexpress.my and we would be glad to assist you.


Best Regards,

Ramlah

Customer Service Team
J&T Express (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd
1300 - 80 - 9000
http://www.jtexpress.my/
If this was in Japan the manager of J&T would have committed harakiri (seppuku) by now.
 
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SteveJUAE

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Well I gave up and jumped a Grab (Uber equivalent) to the crappy depot to retrive the parcel, the Flip was worth more than the premises LOL

What a tactile device @GrumpyMom you really need to fondle one of these :)

Needless to say Mrs was not disappointed, not like she was jumping up and down but the fact she did not moan at me and only allowed me to set it up before snatching it back was a big enough praise for her in tech terms :D

Forget all those old metrics we read in reviews Re: speed, lag, switching, scrolling, opening apps and the like that's so last year and longer :rolleyes: as any recent phone > $700 is no dog these days :)

Leaving the pixel peepers of photography behind as most snap-chat, FB, Instagram selfie officionardo will note, could not care less, its as snappy as any normal user needs

Forget my chipset is only 7nm thick and does 1100nits in sunlight etc, we have all chased that for the last 5 years

This is all about something that you pull out of your pockets or bag 200x a day and is fun and a joy to use

Sure its a bit skinny and tall yet still nice to hold, Why anyone thinks its natural to contort your digits for one handed use is beyond me and certainly seldom seen in military or hi-tech situations, so it must be a poor 2nd in real ergonomics IMO, but I guess some like it :) and may find it as a fault.

The flip when folded is even nicer, like some poker player flipping chips in their hands you want to find some clever way of turning it casually as if it was a spinner and not a $1500 phone

I'd buy it just as an exec toy or the ultimate bedside clock in AOD laptop mode (See Pic Below)

I do note vs my Fold which seem more natural way to open ala book style so it will take a short while for muscle memory to kick in for the opening sequence

I thought the horizontal crease would be more annoying than my Fold vertical, but its not.

The raised bezels are a little thinner than my fold and the dual power/finger print reader button is a useful optimization of space

Shes snatched it back so need to sneak some more play time tomorrow but here's a few different pics

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jamezr

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Well I gave up and jumped a Grab (Uber equivalent) to the crappy depot to retrive the parcel, the Flip was worth more than the premises LOL

Well what a tactile device @GrumpyMom you really need to fondle one of these :)

Needless to say Mrs was not disappointed, not like she was jumping up and down but the fact she did not moan at me and only allowed me to set it up before snatching it back was a big enough praise for her in tech terms :D

Forget all those old metrics we read in reviews Re: speed, lag, switching, scrolling, opening apps and the like that's so last year and longer :rolleyes: as any recent phone > $700 is no dog these days :)

Leaving the pixel peepers of photography behind as most snap-chat, FB, Instagram selfie officionardo will note, could not care less, its as snappy as any normal user needs

Forget my chipset is only 7nm thick and does 1100nits in sunlight etc, we have all chased that for the last 5 years

This is all about something that you pull out of your pockets or bag 200x a day and is fun and a joy to use

Sure its a bit skinny and tall yet still nice to hold, Why anyone thinks its natural to contort your digits for one handed use is beyond me and certainly seldom seen in military or hi-tech situations, so it must be a poor 2nd in real ergonomics IMO, but I guess some like it :) and may find it as a fault.

The flip when folded is even nicer, like some poker player flipping chips in their hands you want to find some clever way of turning it casually as if it was a spinner and not a $1500 phone

I'd buy it just as an exec toy or the ultimate bedside clock in AOD laptop mode

I do note vs my Fold which seem more natural way to open ala book style so it will take a short while for muscle memory to kick in for the opening sequence

I thought the horizontal crease would be more annoying than my Fold vertical, but its not.

The raised bezels are a little thinner than my fold and the dual power/finger print reader button is a useful optimization of space

Shes snatched it back so need to sneak some more play time tomorrow but here's a few different pics

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Great write up!
I love the pic with the Flip half open displaying the clock. I imagine one could set that on a wireless charger and use it as an alarm :)
 

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@SteveJUAE the Flip is a thing of beauty! I’m glad your wife finally got her phone.

Yeah the specs are by no means dated. I hope they move more investment into this form factor.

My dream is to someday see a sort of rugged variant, and by rugged I really only mean a chassis that isn’t made of glass. I don’t need the wireless charging but I need maybe a bit more shatter resistance before I throw this into my purse. Sort of more old school flip phone shell.

I saw a Z-Flip at Best Buy but it was inside of a protective cube!😟. I totally understand the need for that but I wish I could hold and flip it closed just once!

The longing is real! 😆
 

SteveJUAE

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@SteveJUAE the Flip is a thing of beauty! I’m glad your wife finally got her phone.

Yeah the specs are by no means dated. I hope they move more investment into this form factor.

My dream is to someday see a sort of rugged variant, and by rugged I really only mean a chassis that isn’t made of glass. I don’t need the wireless charging but I need maybe a bit more shatter resistance before I throw this into my purse. Sort of more old school flip phone shell.

I saw a Z-Flip at Best Buy but it was inside of a protective cube!😟. I totally understand the need for that but I wish I could hold and flip it closed just once!

The longing is real! 😆
Yes it would be nice to return to some other parts of old designs from yesteryear's

I had a Motorola V60 that was a brushed stainless steel case, again very tactile and not easily damaged


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SteveJUAE

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That's beautiful!
Yes I think she is quite pleased

She is going to see if sleep tracker is OK, but not sure if thickness and size compared to her Brietling will get on her nerves

I got the LTE version from Singapore and hope the Esim becomes available here in KL. Can get Esim for phone but not watch currently. But is available for both on Iphone and Apple watch.
 
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SteveJUAE

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Finally Pre order in Malaysia

They even do the gold here, would not mind that with a black leather case for myself :)

On the other hand if I swap carrier there is a chance of BOGOF on 2 S20Ultras LOL
 
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SteveJUAE

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Well it's official

She won't let me have a gold flip

She said "why do you need two phones ? "

I replied "why do you need +15 handbags ? "

Smack

So upon waking from the floor guess that's the answer to that

So I thought i'm not standing for that ( still sitting on the floor) I ordered a black Active 2 for myself

Huhhhh that will teach her LOL
 

Aneres11

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Couple of weeks in now.
Still enjoying the Flip - but have noticed a few niggly things but they're more Samsung related than actual 'Flip' related.

First one - every single morning when I take my phone off charge I have to put my pass code in. Every. Damn. Morning.
This could be turned off? But I've scoured the menus and can't see anything.
I don't know why it does it, unless Samsung have something built in that requires the pass code if the phone hasn't been operated in over so many hours?

Notifications is the next one. If I get an internet notification (like from this site for instance), or from Outlook for an email, when I go into the actual app and interact with the email - it still doesn't clear from my notifications. I have to do it after I've already interacted with them. Gets annoying after so long.

The actual 'flip' itself is also sometimes problematic for notifications when I come to check my phone at work having not interacted with it for hours and hours. The outside display is pointless. I don't even bother. But when you have to keep opening to interact with a group chat or message it can be a bit annoying. I've resorted to just leaving it open when on the sofa next to me many times to avoid having to open close, open close, open close etc.

Outside display. The display is very bright (I have it on full brightness during the day), but I have to turn it down every night as otherwise it blinds me. I've turned it off when charging as it stays on for some reason (but can't stay on as an AoD for the rest of the time - weird), but it's so bright considering how small it is.

Another - still on Feb 1st security patch. Little disappointing seeing as we're closer to April than March now.
Typical Samsung!

Everyone who calls me says that they don't get a 'ring' when they call me. It's just silent until I answer. I called myself from my work phone and they're right! So strange. It's not a problem this, but just a strange one as my mum has ended the call twice thinking it wasn't ringing and there was a problem.

App drawer - really dislike how it's iPhone like and you have to swipe through pages. The Pixel approach of a drawer that you scroll down is much better. It's easier to get to any app that way. I have 5 pages, and if I need the WalP app to grab a new wallpaper, it's a bit annoying scrolling through for it.

I appreciate these are small niggles (and first world problems given the current situation we're all in), but it comes down to the user experience again.

Bear in mind I am only listing the bad things here. I could quite easily list all the amazing and good things about this phone as there's pleeeeenty, but this is just more of a hindsight take from my previous posts which were all generally very positive. Those positives still stand - but after a more lengthy period with it now these are the takes. :)
 

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Couple of weeks in now.
Still enjoying the Flip - but have noticed a few niggly things but they're more Samsung related than actual 'Flip' related.

First one - every single morning when I take my phone off charge I have to put my pass code in. Every. Damn. Morning.
This could be turned off? But I've scoured the menus and can't see anything.
I don't know why it does it, unless Samsung have something built in that requires the pass code if the phone hasn't been operated in over so many hours?

Notifications is the next one. If I get an internet notification (like from this site for instance), or from Outlook for an email, when I go into the actual app and interact with the email - it still doesn't clear from my notifications. I have to do it after I've already interacted with them. Gets annoying after so long.

The actual 'flip' itself is also sometimes problematic for notifications when I come to check my phone at work having not interacted with it for hours and hours. The outside display is pointless. I don't even bother. But when you have to keep opening to interact with a group chat or message it can be a bit annoying. I've resorted to just leaving it open when on the sofa next to me many times to avoid having to open close, open close, open close etc.

Outside display. The display is very bright (I have it on full brightness during the day), but I have to turn it down every night as otherwise it blinds me. I've turned it off when charging as it stays on for some reason (but can't stay on as an AoD for the rest of the time - weird), but it's so bright considering how small it is.

Another - still on Feb 1st security patch. Little disappointing seeing as we're closer to April than March now.
Typical Samsung!

Everyone who calls me says that they don't get a 'ring' when they call me. It's just silent until I answer. I called myself from my work phone and they're right! So strange. It's not a problem this, but just a strange one as my mum has ended the call twice thinking it wasn't ringing and there was a problem.

App drawer - really dislike how it's iPhone like and you have to swipe through pages. The Pixel approach of a drawer that you scroll down is much better. It's easier to get to any app that way. I have 5 pages, and if I need the WalP app to grab a new wallpaper, it's a bit annoying scrolling through for it.

I appreciate these are small niggles (and first world problems given the current situation we're all in), but it comes down to the user experience again.

Bear in mind I am only listing the bad things here. I could quite easily list all the amazing and good things about this phone as there's pleeeeenty, but this is just more of a hindsight take from my previous posts which were all generally very positive. Those positives still stand - but after a more lengthy period with it now these are the takes. :)
I will check the Mrs phone but my first thoughts in the same order:

I only need a PIN on restart and random PIN locks say 4x week, look at Strong Encryption that forces PIN Lock, but not after charging overnight unless latest UI is doing it

My wife does not really use the notification sceen much, but yes its not much better than the old flashing LED in daily use

Notifications even on my Fold is odd at times I have got in to the habit of pulling down the top menu, clearing notifications, then go to the apps, as some of them as you note do not clear if you go straight to app

Not really observed the display on when charging, will check

My FOLD still on Feb, it's often a little later than the S10's or S20's now, but had until this month always been in 1st 2 weeks

Will check the call ring tone tomorrow

App- draw there are options but cant find it unless it was on goodlock
 
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SteveJUAE

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I will check the Mrs phone but my first thoughts in the same order:

I only need a PIN on restart and random PIN locks say 4x week, look at Strong Encryption that forces PIN Lock, but not after charging overnight unless latest UI is doing it

My wife does not really use the notification sceen much, but yes its not much better than the old flashing LED in daily use

Notifications even on my Fold is odd at times I have got in to the habit of pulling down the top menu, clearing notifications, then go to the apps, as some of them as you note do not clear if you go straight to app

Not really observed the display on when charging, will check

My FOLD still on Feb, it's often a little later than the S10's or S20's now, but had until this month always been in 1st 2 weeks

Will check the call ring tone tomorrow

App- draw there are options but cant find it unless it was on goodlock
Just to follow up

Mrs confirms little front screen stays on while charging so yes needs a fix or turn it over :)

I called her no issues, so maybe your carrier

Sorry I confused the issue re I was noting the close all/switching carousel where I have seen options, to get to the app tray from home screen hers Flip is just a swipe up or down and I have organised her apps to folders so she only needs one page :)
 

Aneres11

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Just to follow up

Mrs confirms little front screen stays on while charging so yes needs a fix or turn it over :)

I called her no issues, so maybe your carrier

Sorry I confused the issue re I was noting the close all/switching carousel where I have seen options, to get to the app tray from home screen hers Flip is just a swipe up or down and I have organised her apps to folders so she only needs one page :)

You can turn the screen off when charging. It's in settings.
:)
 
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Aneres11

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Thought I'd change it up a bit on my Flip and downloaded Lawnchair launcher.

It doesn't work at all with Android 10 gestures, but that's fine for me as I am using standard button nav on my Flip anyway.

App drawer so much more satisfying now without those archaic pages.

And I get the Google feed from a right swipe! Win!

Still love this phone.

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Aneres11

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Finally got an update for my flip a few days ago now. Think it was Monday.

Security patch on March 1st, even though we are now in April lol, but it's no big deal. Better than what Samsung used to be like for sure.

I don't own any other phone currently, and have used the Flip since getting at launch with no plans to change it or move on.

I think I can say that this thing is most definitely not just a fad with a novelty factor that wears off quickly.
It has been a joy to use. No hiccups, no slow down, no issues. Granted, I haven't had it long at all, but in my world this is generally quite lengthy haha.

It's a great phone and I'd recommend it to anyone who is a lover of tech or just anyone who wants a solid all round phone with the bonus of a (very cool) flip screen!
 

Aneres11

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I must have jinxed myself lol.
My battery has been dreadful for the last week or so.
I normally don't touch my phone too much in work, but with working at home I am using it more but my screen on time is pretty garbage...

3 and a half hours today.

Screenshot_20200405-221058_Device care.jpg


Will have to keep an eye on that...
 

glambutnerdy

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This is soo cool. I read somewhere this is targeted towards women especially, considering our pockets are so small compared to mens clothing this new ‘the bigger the better’ phone craze is such a hassle for us. I definitely prefer iPhones in general but that be damned this phone would literally be a lifesaver for me lol

However I saw the JerryRigEverything tear down of this phone and it seems to be extremely delicate (screen scratched just from your nail) so I’d definitely wait a few generations for it to be really mastered. Also the pricing is a bit ridiculous.
 
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Aneres11

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So I think the problem with my battery is Lawnchair launcher.
I have disabled it for now and gone back to One UI (which I really don't mind, thankfully) and will see how it treats me today.
 
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