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samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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I am no big brand fanboy myself. My desk is cluttered with competing products; a Note 2, an iPad 2, a Macbook Pro, a custom built PC, etc. On the high end, the rack has a Tandberg decoder and a Uniden decoder, and folks in the broadcast industry would think I was NUTS for getting a Uniden.

Well no - you're not a fanboy - you're clearly a hater since you aren't 100% dedicated to the Apple ecosystem. In fact - why do you post here? This is an Apple ONLY website :p:eek::rolleyes:
 

Digital Skunk

macrumors G3
Dec 23, 2006
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In my imagination
Samsung wants to be so much like Apple. First 64 bit chip then now Gold color, Touch ID is next for sure. haha Samsung does not copy. Get real!!!

The sad part is that 64 bit in a smartphone was talked about long before Apple even brought out the iPhone . . . . . . and . . . . . guess what . . . . .?

Samsung makes the dam chip anyway.

I think the Gold-Pink will sell very well. The Gold, not so much.

Who cares about copying. One could easily say Notification/Control center, app preview, Lock screen, Safari tab view, and etc on iOS7 is a blatant copy.

You guys are really piss off over who copies colors? :eek:

True that, and anyone that's ever been in the tech circles for more than 5 years will remember the Palm Pre's card multitasking. Which Apple totally ripped for iOS 7 as well.

Well no - you're not a fanboy - you're clearly a hater since you aren't 100% dedicated to the Apple ecosystem. In fact - why do you post here? This is an Apple ONLY website :p:eek::rolleyes:

You and I both know that that's the going consensus in certain forums . . . . that I try to stay away from. Unfortunately the urge to be a forum Nazi and correct errors and FUD just over-powers me.
 

appleii.c

macrumors 6502a
Mar 18, 2013
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The mic is hardly unique to Apple. Nor is the store within a store. S Voice is more a usurping of Google's offering, etc. People see what they want to see.


You tell me - how much work was it for Apple to get their white iPhone "correct" ;)

True, People will see what they choose. And truth be told, nothing (or should I say, verrrry few thing) is [are] really "Unique" anymore. Mic's, stores, icons, colors, watches, materials... pretty much everything is done.

And as far as the white iPhone, was the delay because of production constraints, or marketing/demand/wanting to wait to make MORE money later with a "new" color"? I bet if someone else had a very successful "white" phone selling millions, Apple would have come out with it MUCH quicker.

Don't worry, I was having fun with your comment too. The one you quoted was from someone that really made no sense to me.

I apologize for not making my comment to you clearer.

Trust, I know a joke when I see one, even if I don't make mine as clear for others.

I am no big brand fanboy myself. My desk is cluttered with competing products; a Note 2, an iPad 2, a Macbook Pro, a custom built PC, etc. On the high end, the rack has a Tandberg decoder and a Uniden decoder, and folks in the broadcast industry would think I was NUTS for getting a Uniden.

Haha, i know, this is amusing to me. I understood what you were going for. I'll admit, i prefer Apple products, but I'm not against using another companies superior product. Gmail, Google Maps, Outlook, Excel, Chrome... So my loyalty is "limited" too I guess. I think MOST people have a favorite, a brand they like or trust the most, but aren't afraid to try something else. And they have brands they dislike for whatever reason. Then you have the true "blind" consumers who buy/use nothing but ONE brand. I think they are the minority though, but seem to make the most noise.
 

samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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Haha, i know, this is amusing to me. I understood what you were going for. I'll admit, i prefer Apple products, but I'm not against using another companies superior product. Gmail, Google Maps, Outlook, Excel, Chrome... So my loyalty is "limited" too I guess. I think MOST people have a favorite, a brand they like or trust the most, but aren't afraid to try something else. And they have brands they dislike for whatever reason. Then you have the true "blind" consumers who buy/use nothing but ONE brand. I think they are the minority though, but seem to make the most noise.

Well my biggest "chuckle" are the people who condemn Samsung at every turn and would NEVER buy a Samsung product - but are perfectly OK with Samsung components IN their phone/devices.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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The LG G2 copied Samsung's S4 and touchwiz. I don't see any S4 users (including myself) complaining. I actually like that companies are in a arms race. Makes choices a bit easier instead of being so distant from each other.
 

iosuser

macrumors 65816
Mar 12, 2012
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Samsung wants to be so much like Apple. First 64 bit chip then now Gold color, Touch ID is next for sure. haha Samsung does not copy. Get real!!!

It's extremely difficult nowadays to come out with something truly new and original. I can't think of one thing from Apple since the iPod that never existed before. The difference is when Apple comes out with their version of something, it will work and it will work smoothly. I take no issue when one takes an existing product and make it work better; I can't say the same for any of the Android products I've bought. I want a bigger screen so much since last year's Samsung GS3, sold it couple months later and went back to iPhone. Same this year with the HTC One, although I still have it it's just been sitting there for 2 months now, back to iPhone I went.

I just bought a 5s yesterday. I've had many gadgets with a finger print reader before, but none had ever just worked like the sensor on the 5s - they were all finicky, requiring multiple swipes, other times not work at all. With the exception of putting a finger I haven't registered on my 5s, I have not once gotten the try again message yet.
 

appleii.c

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Mar 18, 2013
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Well my biggest "chuckle" are the people who condemn Samsung at every turn and would NEVER buy a Samsung product - but are perfectly OK with Samsung components IN their phone/devices.

Well, probably because they cant actually SEE the Samsung component, or possibly don't even know it's in there. Ignorance is bliss.

Plus, they really have no choice. If they want Apple products (or any other company's product that uses them), Samsung is in there.
 

Tinmania

macrumors 68040
Aug 8, 2011
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The LG G2 copied Samsung's S4 and touchwiz. I don't see any S4 users (including myself) complaining. I actually like that companies are in a arms race. Makes choices a bit easier instead of being so distant from each other.
Indeed.

I generally hate car analogies but imagine if you could only get cruise control from GM, anti-lock brakes from Ford, steering wheel controls from Chrysler, etc.



Michael
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Dec 15, 2010
30,991
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LOL @ Samsung!! They are quite pathetic. I cant quit laughing at the blatant copycat nature of this company. They want to be Apple so bad, they cant stand themselves. Let the spinning begin!

LOL Samsung want to give people CHOICE...nothing wrong with that.
 
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appleii.c

macrumors 6502a
Mar 18, 2013
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It's extremely difficult nowadays to come out with something truly new and original. I can't think of one thing from Apple since the iPod that never existed before. The difference is when Apple comes out with their version of something, it will work and it will work smoothly. I take no issue when one takes an existing product and make it work better; I can't say the same for any of the Android products I've bought. I want a bigger screen so much since last year's Samsung GS3, sold it couple months later and went back to iPhone. Same this year with the HTC One, although I still have it it's just been sitting there for 2 months now, back to iPhone I went.

I just bought a 5s yesterday. I've had many gadgets with a finger print reader before, but none had ever just worked like the sensor on the 5s - they were all finicky, requiring multiple swipes, other times not work at all. With the exception of putting a finger I haven't registered on my 5s, I have not once gotten the try again message yet.

A huge misperception people have (and this statement coming from an apple loyalist) is that Apple is this huge innovative company. Although they have innovated on some fronts, it's not near the level people think. Even the iPod you mentioned... Sony had the Walkman before it. What Apple has done in the past, and IMO continues to do well, is take existing technology and bring it to the mass market in a very clean and useable way (and yes, for the most part "it just works"). They are great at this. Not sure you would consider that innovation, but it's what they do, and they are great at it. I might say they are more pioneers than they are innovators.
 

Pompiliu

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Apr 22, 2012
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Golden cheap plastic?

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jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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The LG G2 copied Samsung's S4 and touchwiz. I don't see any S4 users (including myself) complaining. I actually like that companies are in a arms race. Makes choices a bit easier instead of being so distant from each other.

not so sure about that...i have both the S4 and the LG G2 and the UI doesn't remind of either phone......
 

samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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A huge misperception people have (and this statement coming from an apple loyalist) is that Apple is this huge innovative company. Although they have innovated on some fronts, it's not near the level people think. Even the iPod you mentioned... Sony had the Walkman before it. What Apple has done in the past, and IMO continues to do well, is take existing technology and bring it to the mass market in a very clean and useable way (and yes, for the most part "it just works"). They are great at this. Not sure you would consider that innovation, but it's what they do, and they are great at it. I might say they are more pioneers than they are innovators.

Agreed.

Innovation comes in all shapes and sizes. People say Samsung doesn't innovate - but their production of chips and screens say otherwise. They are constantly innovating - even if you just consider components. And then there are features from various OSes. Even if some consider them lame or useless - they are still innovative.

Marketing, use of a supply chain, technology, etc - all can be considered innovative.

That being said - some people clearly have unrealistic expectations because phones and other devices right now are pretty iterative. Nothing wrong with that. But some "expect" to have something totally new or unheard of. How possible is that when there's constant news stories about developing tech? Anyone paying attention can see how as tech advances, it will be adopted or attempted in future products.

Flexible screens (just as an example) has been talked about for years. Clearly it will work its way into everyday tech. That doesn't make it less innovative. It just means that by the time we see it - it won't be as "exciting" because - what? - it's not "out of the blue?"
 

skratch77

macrumors 65816
Mar 20, 2013
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Samsung wants to be so much like Apple. First 64 bit chip then now Gold color, Touch ID is next for sure. haha Samsung does not copy. Get real!!!

Samsung and arm worked TOGETHER making the big little a15 chip and Samsung is one of the few that own a license to use arm arch to there own custom design and Samsung made that 64 bit chip for apple to use.

The chip is using arm v8 instruction set and is owned by arm and is absolutely nothing about apple in it.the a15 in the exynos 5 soc by Samsung is arms reference design and is the last 32 bit design they have before jumping to av8 instruction sets and 64bit.

Samsung uses arm reference designs and there only choice is to go 64 bit v8 next year as they are already using there latest last gen 32 bit arch.

Its stupid people spreading **** about 64 bit that think apple invented it and now Samsung is copying it.

First off Samsung made and designed it and second its arms arch that is free to use to who ever wants to license it
 

samcraig

macrumors P6
Jun 22, 2009
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Samsung and arm worked TOGETHER making the big little a15 chip and Samsung is one of the few that own a license to use arm arch to there own custom design and Samsung made that 64 bit chip for apple to use.

The chip is using arm v8 instruction set and is owned by arm and is absolutely nothing about apple in it.the a15 in the exynos 5 soc by Samsung is arms reference design and is the last 32 bit design they have before jumping to av8 instruction sets and 64bit.

Samsung uses arm reference designs and there only choice is to go 64 bit v8 next year as they are already using there latest last gen 32 bit arch.

Its stupid people spreading **** about 64 bit that think apple invented it and now Samsung is copying it.

First off Samsung made and designed it and second its arms arch that is free to use to who ever wants to license it

Further - the advantages of 64bit increase with memory over 4gb, right? That's more likely to be in a Samsung phone or tablet than any Apple one in the near future...
 

Todd B.

macrumors 6502
May 1, 2013
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Samesung. Why come out with anything on their own when they can just rev up the photocopiers?
 
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