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I don't have first hand experience of the Galaxy S6 but plenty of experience of Lollipop and when I tried to send a large video directly to another family member in the way that it is so easy on IOS I could not do it

On IOS families are busy using face time to keep in touch and sending video clips directly to each other because it is so easy a child can do it.

I know of people who have bought an iPad just in order to keep in touch with family members because it is so good and because it is so easy for their children to use.

Until Android can do that then people will ignore the superior specifications of flagship Android devices with their Widgets in favour of Apple.
Your problems sending video only talk about your problems, not about what other people's problems.

You still try to state as a fact that iOS is easier to use than Android, but it is not true
 

nviz22

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Samsung is more user friendly in other areas than iOS. Predictive dialing? How about that instead of searching through contacts on who to call? Power saving options to extend battery life? Google Apps and Services aren't user friendly? Yeesh, just because something is oversimplified doesn't mean that other products are significantly harder to use.
 

stevelam

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Samsung is more user friendly in other areas than iOS. Predictive dialing? How about that instead of searching through contacts on who to call? Power saving options to extend battery life? Google Apps and Services aren't user friendly? Yeesh, just because something is oversimplified doesn't mean that other products are significantly harder to use.

how the hell is predictive dialing more user friendly??? going through a LIST OF NAMES vs a ton of phone numbers to remember? please.
 

khha4113

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how the hell is predictive dialing more user friendly??? going through a LIST OF NAMES vs a ton of phone numbers to remember? please.

Predictive dialing in Samsung phones also have NAMES too, not just numbers.
 

nviz22

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how the hell is predictive dialing more user friendly??? going through a LIST OF NAMES vs a ton of phone numbers to remember? please.

You spell a name using numbers on the keypad and it is quicker than selecting another menu and then typing in a name on a keyboard.
 

spinedoc77

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The iPhone 6 and Galaxy S6 are pretty equal in terms of performance, build quality and capabilities, but what mainly sets them apart is their operation systems.

Children are able to use the iPhone or iPad even before they can read because it is designed to be easy use. They can use Face time to chat to family and friends and download games to play.

Samsung needs Android to be as easy to use as iOS in order to compete with Apple or create it's own easy to use operating system.

I never understood why a 2 year old being able to use a tech device was something to brag about? I'm not a moron and I'm not a 2 year old, give me something that will allow me to be fully functional. iOS is primitive, some people love it and more power to them, but no way in hell I'd ever go back to being hamstrung so much. Android is quite easy to use, I can't fathom what's difficult about it.
 

Gaugerer

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I never understood why a 2 year old being able to use a tech device was something to brag about? I'm not a moron and I'm not a 2 year old, give me something that will allow me to be fully functional. iOS is primitive, some people love it and more power to them, but no way in hell I'd ever go back to being hamstrung so much. Android is quite easy to use, I can't fathom what's difficult about it.

Almost all of my family are on IOS and from children to grandparents they are busy using face time and sending large (500mb) family videos directly to each other with ease. Being able to keep in touch this way is very important to families.

They are not at all technical and are only interested in easily using a smartphone/tablet and IOS allows them to do that with minimum effort.

When I tried to join the fun and send a 500mb video directly to a family member on Android after trying Hangouts and Google Drive I could not do it even though Hangouts and Google drive is available on IOS.

Maybe I missed something and it is possible to send large (500mb) videos directly to others using Android and if so I would be grateful if someone could post the details of how to do it.
 

pezkiln

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Children are able to use the iPhone or iPad even before they can read because it is designed to be easy use. They can use Face time to chat to family and friends and download games to play.

I'm sorry but I know that I would not let my child use either an iphone or an ipad, or any other electronic for that matter, at that young an age. Once they turn school age yes, but even then it would be in a very limited way.
 

MRU

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Almost all of my family are on IOS and from children to grandparents they are busy using face time and sending large (500mb) family videos directly to each other with ease. Being able to keep in touch this way is very important to families.

They are not at all technical and are only interested in easily using a smartphone/tablet and IOS allows them to do that with minimum effort.

When I tried to join the fun and send a 500mb video directly to a family member on Android after trying Hangouts and Google Drive I could not do it even though Hangouts and Google drive is available on IOS.

Maybe I missed something and it is possible to send large (500mb) videos directly to others using Android and if so I would be grateful if someone could post the details of how to do it.
Upload video directly to Google drive or Dropbox inside the video/movie editing app. Then send your family members a direct shared link to that file on the dropbox/googledrive server and they will be able to play/stream content directly or download it. They don't need a Dropbox account themselves.
 

kevinof

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Sorry, let me get this straight. You're SENDING copies of a 500mb video to each of your family members?

Why? Why use up 500mb of storage for each family member? Who doe's this?

Upload it once and then share it. Simples

Almost all of my family are on IOS and from children to grandparents they are busy using face time and sending large (500mb) family videos directly to each other with ease. Being able to keep in touch this way is very important to families.
 

spinedoc77

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Almost all of my family are on IOS and from children to grandparents they are busy using face time and sending large (500mb) family videos directly to each other with ease. Being able to keep in touch this way is very important to families.

They are not at all technical and are only interested in easily using a smartphone/tablet and IOS allows them to do that with minimum effort.

When I tried to join the fun and send a 500mb video directly to a family member on Android after trying Hangouts and Google Drive I could not do it even though Hangouts and Google drive is available on IOS.

Maybe I missed something and it is possible to send large (500mb) videos directly to others using Android and if so I would be grateful if someone could post the details of how to do it.

I can send large video files in Android, they do the same thing as Apple they simply resize. Just this weekend was my daughters birthday and I sent a lot of videos out, and the Note 4 takes very high resolution video. This was with the stock messaging app, Hangouts sucks IMO and I don't use it. I don't do anything special, I just send it, Android warns me that it's too large and gives me the option to resize it, I say yes and it resized it and then I send the message.
 

lowendlinux

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Kids are amazingly smart they'll figure out anything you give them adults not so much. I don't like mobile phones and tablets and they're OS's but I can still use them all none are particularly hard.
 

spinedoc77

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I'm sorry but I know that I would not let my child use either an iphone or an ipad, or any other electronic for that matter, at that young an age. Once they turn school age yes, but even then it would be in a very limited way.

I didn't let my daughter use ANY electronic device or even watch TV until she was 2 and the critical brain structures associated with attention matured a bit. She now can use her iPad an hour per day in the evening and watches maybe 15 minutes of TV as well.

I'm a terrible example though as I'm always staring at my SP3 screen. I'm probably just delaying the inevitable as kids learn most from what their parents do.
 

UAV

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"Samsung Needs a Better Operating System To Compete With Apple"
really 20million pre-orders sets a new mobile record. even if you took half of thoes pre-orders away for whatever excuse you may come with like. how apple counts pre-orders vs how sammy counts them. so even at 10 million it's still higher than apple best 6-6million of the iphone6 6+.
 

MasterRyu2011

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I wouldn't say ease of use is the culprit. If you can you use a computer, you can learn to use a smartphone. Most adults I know have some working knowledge of computers and how to navigate around things on Windows/Mac.

The Apple brand is just way too strong for competitors. That's pretty much it. Apple is seen as a premium product that is more stable and more polished. Whether that is true is up for debate -- but the general public has already cemented that image. There is no going back. I know folks who would say the iPhone 5s screen (less than 720p) is more clear than that of a 1080p Android phone just because it's Apple.

Even if you made a Samsung phone a grid of icons like iOS, people would still rag on it and say it's just an iPhone clone. It's the Apple brand that Samsung must beat, plain and simple.
 

spinedoc77

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I wouldn't say ease of use is the culprit. If you can you use a computer, you can learn to use a smartphone. Most adults I know have some working knowledge of computers and how to navigate around things on Windows/Mac.

The Apple brand is just way too strong for competitors. That's pretty much it. Apple is seen as a premium product that is more stable and more polished. Whether that is true is up for debate -- but the general public has already cemented that image. There is no going back. I know folks who would say the iPhone 5s screen (less than 720p) is more clear than that of a 1080p Android phone just because it's Apple.

Even if you made a Samsung phone a grid of icons like iOS, people would still rag on it and say it's just an iPhone clone. It's the Apple brand that Samsung must beat, plain and simple.

Exactly. This whole simplicity thing is overblown. There was a time it was true, but that time has long passed, Android is quite simple to use and I fail to see what is complicated about it. Anyone switching to a new system will find that new system complicated, whether it's Mac to Windows, iOS to Android, etc etc. But once you get comfortable with it, it's not a big deal.
 

kevinof

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Jul 30, 2008
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Ok. So this is how difficult it is to share a video on Android. Had to do this today ...

Step 1. Upload video to Google Drive.
Step 2. Select the video and then choose share
Step 3. Select the app , person to share with
Step 4. Click on Send.

How difficult was that?
 
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MRU

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"Samsung Needs a Better Operating System To Compete With Apple"
really 20million pre-orders sets a new mobile record. even if you took half of thoes pre-orders away for whatever excuse you may come with like. how apple counts pre-orders vs how sammy counts them. so even at 10 million it's still higher than apple best 6-6million of the iphone6 6+.
Carrier pre-orders

NOT CONSUMER pre-orders

That's a major factor people keep overlooking ....
 

Tig Bitties

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Samsung has the best OS available to it = Stock vanilla Android. But for some strange reason they decide to butcher it, and release this god awful thing named Touchwiz :rolleyes:

The new Galaxy S6 running stock vanilla 5.1 Lollipop = :p:D Wish there would still be GPE versions of flagships.
 

MRU

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Because carriers always order things they think won't sell?
Carriers orders are not sales. Carriers can often return unsold stock at no cost to themselves. It what gives carriers an incentive to stock particular manufacturer models and a competitive advantage over traditional independent mobile retailers.

Remember that when a Carrier orders devices from a manufacturer like Samsung, they have to be tailored and software adjusted for that particular carrier (simlocked / branded with bootscreens / carrier bloat installed into the rom) when they (a carrier) order devices, so they order not just for first weeks launch but for as much product as they think they will need over a much longer period of time (as much as a year ahead).

The 6 and 6 edge will sell greatly, but I'm a realist who doesn't get suckered into believing news headlines at face value without understanding the context...

Just a shame many folks here don't seem to realise that and seemingly accept blanket statements at face value.

Wait for the first 6 months actual sales figures before blowing the glory horn.
 
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lowendlinux

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Carriers orders are not sales. Carriers can often return unsold stock at no cost to themselves. It what gives carriers an incentive to stock particular manufacturer models and a competitive advantage over traditional independent mobile retailers.

Remember that when a Carrier orders devices from a manufacturer like Samsung, they have to be tailored and software adjusted for that particular carrier (simlocked / branded with bootscreens / carrier bloat installed into the rom) when they (a carrier) order devices, so they order not just for first weeks launch but for as much product as they think they will need over a much longer period of time (as much as a year ahead).

The 6 and 6 edge will sell greatly, but I'm a realist who doesn't get suckered into believing news headlines at face value without understanding the context...

Just a shame many folks here don't seem to realise that and seemingly accept blanket statements at face value.

Wait for the first 6 months actual sales figures before blowing the glory horn.

Do we know that they can return especially after custom SW. I find it highly unlikely that Samsung will take the inventory back because it's not sold. Sammy and Apple seem to share record breaking sales and I can't figure out why.
 

stevelam

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"Samsung Needs a Better Operating System To Compete With Apple"
really 20million pre-orders sets a new mobile record. even if you took half of thoes pre-orders away for whatever excuse you may come with like. how apple counts pre-orders vs how sammy counts them. so even at 10 million it's still higher than apple best 6-6million of the iphone6 6+.

uhh you do realize the '20 million pre-orders' number isnt actually from customers but WORLWIDE from all mobile operators and carriers etc right?

thats not the same thing as a 'preorder' at all, where apple only counts preorders from actual customers.
 
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