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Surf Donkey

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Coin is a more expensive alternative that is really cool, but you'll have to buy a new one when the battery dies. Wanted to buy one but it's sold out.

I mean its been around since 2013. They still haven't been able to reliably produce these things. And $100 just seems crazy. Honestly I don't get it. The technology (thin battery, bluetooth, nfc, etc) is super nifty though.

Plus just imagine the looks and refusals you'll get trying to use that thing. Really, it would have been a cool idea about 10 years ago. Personally I think the ship has sailed for something like this.
 

epicrayban

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I don't regularly use Samsung pay either but it's nice knowing it can be taken virtually anywhere in the US.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Samsung have dropped the ball here in the UK or perhaps it's the banks? There are only rumours so far that it's arriving in May 2016, whereas contactless payments are common place and Apple Pay has already gained a strong footing. I think it would be nice for Samsung users to have this option though as this is perhaps a good selling point in this day and age.
 

AliMacs

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Samsung have dropped the ball here in the UK or perhaps it's the banks? There are only rumours so far that it's arriving in May 2016, whereas contactless payments are common place and Apple Pay has already gained a strong footing. I think it would be nice for Samsung users to have this option though as this is perhaps a good selling point in this day and age.

It's ALWAYS THE BANKS. Period. The technology is here. Another problem is the outrageous pricing to upgrade to NFC pay terminals. This is again thanks to the POS systems that just want that buck as well. Everyone is in it for the money.
 
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Zaft

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The worst part of using apple pay is when the stores NFC terminals dont work and I am siting there like a dufis with my phone. I look like some nerd or something.
 
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burgman

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Too funny when people who haven't used a system rush to threads to bash because it's not Apple. You do realize the forum title right? In the USA there have been some stories about people getting hassled by store personnel and police because the store thought the Samsung pay user was hacking the terminal.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Too funny when people who haven't used a system rush to threads to bash because it's not Apple. You do realize the forum title right? In the USA there have been some stories about people getting hassled by store personnel and police because the store thought the Samsung pay user was hacking the terminal.
I've just scanned through this thread again and can't find the people you mention who are bashing none Apple payments. I certainly can't bash it because it doesn't exist in my country.
 

John Mcgregor

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Do you know what Samsung pay is? They differentiate by having MST technology. It basically generates a magnetic field that mimics the credit cards magnetic field so it can be used where nfc payment terminals are not accepted.

People only swipe in USA. In Europe it's considered insecure and last time it worked for me was probably 10 years ago. It is most of the time disabled on the card reader.
 

thewitt

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People only swipe in USA. In Europe it's considered insecure and last time it worked for me was probably 10 years ago. It is most of the time disabled on the card reader.

I'm not sure where you are in the US, but I've used the smart chip more than swiping in the US in the last year - in NC, SC, CA, TX, ID and OH.

Not like in Asia, where swiping is virtually non-existent, but it's getting significant traction now all across the US.
 

John Mcgregor

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I'm not sure where you are in the US, but I've used the smart chip more than swiping in the US in the last year - in NC, SC, CA, TX, ID and OH.

Not like in Asia, where swiping is virtually non-existent, but it's getting significant traction now all across the US.

I'm not in the US, but i have been to almost every state.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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People only swipe in USA. In Europe it's considered insecure and last time it worked for me was probably 10 years ago. It is most of the time disabled on the card reader.
That's a very good point about the swipe readers being disabled in Europe. It is indeed regarded as insecure which is why pretty much every shop has chip and pin. Samsung Pay wouldn't have this advantage in Europe of using the magnetic reader after all.
 
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saldawop

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Although I use Apple Pay quite regularly here in the U.K. It is not without it's problems.I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable leaving home without my card.It is at least once I week I see a message pop up on the card reader screen asking me to insert my card for security reasons.
That may be down to the card, I don't know.But its too often for me to be able to rely on it
 

hallux

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I'm not sure where you are in the US, but I've used the smart chip more than swiping in the US in the last year - in NC, SC, CA, TX, ID and OH.

Not like in Asia, where swiping is virtually non-existent, but it's getting significant traction now all across the US.

I'm not who you responded to but I'll chime in. I'm in upstate, NY, my cards still swipe quite often, the merchants either don't have the chip readers installed yet or they haven't enabled them. One has them but hasn't turned on yet, though they DO take mobile payments which I find unusual.

As for the swipe being disabled in much of Europe, I guess that precluded many American tourists from using plastic while overseas, until recently anyway.

3 of my 4 personal cards have now updated to chips, my company Amex hasn't yet, to go with my one personal card that hasn't. Only one of my cards is supported properly in Android Pay (direct charge to the CC company rather than going through a 3rd-party) and one is supported through a 3rd-party.
 

kdarling

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I'm not sure where you are in the US, but I've used the smart chip more than swiping in the US in the last year - in NC, SC, CA, TX, ID and OH.

It's growing, for sure, especially at big chains. I have to use chip at CVS, Home Depot and even Dollar General.

But my local grocery, gas stations and restaurants are all still swipe. Northern NJ/NY border.

Although people don't seem to remember now, it actually took most countries years to fully or even mostly switch over.
 

gotluck

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That's a very good point about the swipe readers being disabled in Europe. It is indeed regarded as insecure which is why pretty much every shop has chip and pin. Samsung Pay wouldn't have this advantage in Europe of using the magnetic reader after all.

Yea, that's probably why samsung pay only exists in the usa afaik
 

admob71

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Must be where you are as apple pay works flawlessly everywhere I have used it. Not even 2 secs and it's done. Sounds like an agenda thread.

If anything there should be no difference between the two.
Apart from the fact that SP is accepted at 100% of all outlets, where's as AP is only about 15% , different technology.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Apart from the fact that SP is accepted at 100% of all outlets, where's as AP is only about 15% , different technology.
You need to read above as Samsung Pay does not work in every country. It's not been adopted in the UK yet Apple Pay is becoming well established. In most countries in Europe the swipe facility on modern pay terminals is disabled due to fraud so nfc is the only form that is useable in this sense. Even if Samsung Pay comes to the uk, it has no advantage.
 

The Game 161

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You need to read above as Samsung Pay does not work in every country. It's not been adopted in the UK yet Apple Pay is becoming well established. In most countries in Europe the swipe facility on modern pay terminals is disabled due to fraud so nfc is the only form that is useable in this sense. Even if Samsung Pay comes to the uk, it has no advantage.
This is the thing why is this still not available here? Surely not down to just Samsung but the banks?

Apple Pay was very quick coming out here but not Samsung pay?
 

The-Real-Deal82

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This is the thing why is this still not available here? Surely not down to just Samsung but the banks?

Apple Pay was very quick coming out here but not Samsung pay?
It's because of the banks most likely. Apple Pay took a while with my bank but finally came last July. Samsung Pay is rumoured to start arriving in the UK in May.
 
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