And yet people keep buying Apple. People are excitedly anticipating the
Watch. And Apple continues to get bigger and more valuable. Didn't Samsung just lose $30b? I believe that's what we're talking about.
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Samsung plunges 15% this year to two-year low
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And yet people keep buying Apple. People are excitedly anticipating the
Watch. And Apple continues to get bigger and more valuable. Didn't Samsung just lose $30b? I believe that's what we're talking about.
I haven't messed with my GF's Note 3 much but on my Note 2 its this incoherent mess of all three periods of their design philosophies. Maybe Touchwiz got better, however I don't think I will ever buy a Samsung phone again unless it is stock Android and gets regular updates.
That pretty much puts Samsung out of my potential phones group. I think My next will be an unlocked Moto X 2014 with a wood back plate, or the new Nexus if it comes out any time soon and completely wows me. Motorola moved their 4 customizations into a main application and the things it brings I may actually find useful, they have also proven to be on top of updates as well. Nexus is well, you all know how that is!
I haven't messed with my GF's Note 3 much but on my Note 2 its this incoherent mess of all three periods of their design philosophies. Maybe Touchwiz got better, however I don't think I will ever buy a Samsung phone again unless it is stock Android and gets regular updates.
That pretty much puts Samsung out of my potential phones group. I think My next will be an unlocked Moto X 2014 with a wood back plate, or the new Nexus if it comes out any time soon and completely wows me. Motorola moved their 4 customizations into a main application and the things it brings I may actually find useful, they have also proven to be on top of updates as well. Nexus is well, you all know how that is!
Don't get me wrong, I'd switch to a Motorola in a heartbeat as well. I just greatly need the S pen.
Yea the S pen will be a great loss for me. I am noticing I am using it less and less at work, that could be due to the fact that my Surface Pro 3 does a good job at note taking on the job though. I also love the shape of the Note 2 stylus but I do not like the way the new styluses feel on the 3 and most likely the 4 (it looks rather similar).
We're in the same boat, I've got a surface pro 3 as well. In all honesty the mobile device that gets the most use for me is my Vivotab Note 8 which has a Wacom digitizer and pen silo. Still, having the Note 3 stylus frees me from carrying ANY tablet these days.
You (and PocketNow) are missing huge pieces of the puzzle. Samsung manufacture a lot more than cell phones, and there are probably other fields where they are struggling that affect the stock price way more than their performance in the cell phone market.
According to Wikipedia the revenue from Samsung Electronics is around 70% of the total for Samsung as a whole. And included in those 70% are led/lcd panels, semiconductors, televisions, monitors, refrigerators, printers, cameras, hard drives and so on - in addition to the cell phones.
I prefer other Android phones over Samsung. Although Samsung phones look great in pictures they feel incredibly cheap in real life. You might expect the s5 to have some kind leathery feel to it, but it is extremely plastic. Nothing wrong with plastic, but Samsung plastic is something different.
Touchwiz is cluttered and there's no consistent design language at all. And nuclear green combined with muted blue is just... ugh!
Touchwiz is cluttered and there's no consistent design language at all. And nuclear green combined with muted blue is just... ugh!
I hope all goes well for your step father, I lost mine a couple of years ago to leukaemia but of course that is a different form of cancer. I hadn't realised the link from brain tumours to phones had been proven? I say this because a colleague of my father unsuccessfully sued BT a few years ago after using mobile phones since the mid 1980's and he developed a brain tumour. If the link is there I would like to see more awareness.
I believe that Market Share alone is irrelevant and as nothing to do with the current situation.
The fact that they only dropped 15 % (Apple dropped 50 % with stellar results) when they are nose diving quarter after quarter (compared with last year) is enough to support this.
If you do some research, you will find that more than 70 % of Samsung's Electronics devision's profits comes from Samsung Mobile. And almost 100 % of Samsung's mobile profits comes from selling phones.
Their display and semicondutor business is doing more or less the same they were last year, and their tablet sales grew a lot.
The problem? Phones. Obviously.
Samsung is really going down, no kidding. At the end of the day their phones are exactly the same as other OEMs, but just look worse and less premium with more bloatware. And there's Apple on the high end, that is doing extremely well.
Please don't quote him, if you guys do so, my ignore is in vain, and I can see this bs...
Sorry........was just trying to call out the BS. He states his opinion as fact. He has a hate for all things Samsung and is very biased......He is emotionally attached to Apple.
I think it's just his wish
agreed......
On a another note.....how do you like your galaxy tab pro 10.1? I am looking for a tablet to replace my iPad Air. I ran out of storage so want something with an SD card this time.
Samsung Mobile is a BIG chunk of Samsung's business income.
Like it or not, the Chinese are gobbling up that market; even a few percentage points can have massive implications on Samsung's current business model of global spray and pray.
Then you have Apple now in the "big screen" game, and that will have an impact as well.
HTC and LG are building better products that are getting more attention and press. How many people went from an S4 or G2 passed on the S5 and got a M8 or G3? Probably a good amount.
Samsung is already starting to pivot to compensate.
-They are shutting down some bloat/services they offered but no one used.
-They are investing in more lifestyle oriented features like S-health
-They are utilizing more "premium" build materials
I'm going to bet that the S6 will bring Samsung's A-Game and many people will be impressed.
Like it or not, the Chinese are gobbling up that market; even a few percentage points can have massive implications on Samsung's current business model of global spray and pray.
Then you have Apple now in the "big screen" game, and that will have an impact as well.
HTC and LG are building better products that are getting more attention and press. How many people went from an S4 or G2 passed on the S5 and got a M8 or G3? Probably a good amount.
Samsung is already starting to pivot to compensate.
-They are shutting down some bloat/services they offered but no one used.
-They are investing in more lifestyle oriented features like S-health
-They are utilizing more "premium" build materials
I'm going to bet that the S6 will bring Samsung's A-Game and many people will be impressed.
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Yep, this is why competition is good. Although I love the Note series, I do feel that Samsung has been getting complacent over the years, refusing to diverge from their own, very peculiar sense of aesthetics and UI design. A few bad quarterly results can only be good for them. Obviously already the Note 4 is a sign of improvement, not only with the step towards premium materials and handset design, but it also looks like TouchWiz has been cleaned up a little. But yeah like you say, probably we'll see significant improvement with the S6. Especially on the software side of things, I'm willing to bet.
Samsung is a powerhouse in mobile tech - no doubt they will take a long, hard look at where they're missing the target and come back stronger.
The same HTC who are just about keeping themselves in the black?
As much as you like the HTC one m8 and think that its better it's still not selling anything. Also the S5 has and will continue to out sell the G3.
It's pretty good. I've had it for 2 weeks now. Its pretty smooth and fast, no lag. The screen is great. I also like how they have made the profile a lot thinner. It's actually comfortable to use on portrait mode and doesn't get heavy like previous generation 10.1 android tablets did. I've got a 64GB SD card in there. It's great to be able to just fill it up and not have to constantly delete things. Battery life is quite good. I've been getting about 8.5 hours screen on time and about 2 days in standby, with heavy usage. It also doesn't drain much in standby, about 2 % over night.
I stated why, before.
First, let's be clear and honest about something: I really like Android. I use Android. I never had an iOS device (I have a 2011 MBAir, and I really believe that it is the best thing ever made in this universe after cookies and nutella.).
Heck, in the past 2 days I made some posts here giving advice to people that would go from iOS to Android, etc. It's just that on the high end, I think that Apple does the best job by far. (from hardware to software level). Having said that, for my uses, I can't justify an iPhone, YET. A cheaper Android device does what I need.
My utterly disdain for Samsung comes from things that I learned over the years and personal experience with a lot of their products. Basically, I firmly believe that they are a rotten company from the top. Their aggressive marketing campaigns and cultivation of ignorance (more cores = faster devices, moar pixels = better screen, moar MP = better camera) on every tech segment (huge amounts of lawsuits and shameless tactics from washing machines to smartphones) makes me sick.
My friends that bought an exynos Galaxy S3 and besides not seeing kitkat (that even snapdragon s3 mini owners saw) only had problems and more problems (age wasn't kind to the s3, while even older 4s are extremely fine today) and my international s3 mini that never saw a single update is the icing in the cake.
If you add to that what they did to a legitimate good product (Android, and trie very hard to make it a cheap iOS knock off)...
Well, I would love to see Samsung burn. Unfortunately it won't happen during my lifetime, I think.
Oh, thanks. I really I'm altruistic to the point that I don't feel particularly good about being right about Samsung's obvious decline.
I just feel bad for him and others like him.
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Samsung makes by far the fastest and most reliable ssd drives there is.they also make the best LCD screens for apple and also make apples socs
Lol and there exynos chips are beating the k1 in benchmarks and performance that even snapdragon in the upcoming 810 soc will go with big little approach... Oh did Mr Samsung hater know that Samsung worked one on one together with arm to develop big little?
Go exynos yourself
Lol and there exynos chips are beating the k1 in benchmarks and performance that even snapdragon in the upcoming 810 soc will go with big little approach... Oh did Mr Samsung hater know that Samsung worked one on one together with arm to develop big little?
Go exynos yourself
There are equal or better Android phones on the market now compared to Samsung offerings. And you have cheaper options as well. I never believe that Android can be defined by one OEM. This is why it's a bad strategy for Apple to go after Android OEM's one by one; it doesn't work. It's also why you see not one but two large iPhones released at the same time this year. If you can't beat them join them!
But next year the Samsung Galaxy S6 should be their best phone. I don't see them releasing anything lackluster. But then again LG G4 should be good as well along with the HTC M9. Competition is good for us all.
But next year the Samsung Galaxy S6 should be their best phone. I don't see them releasing anything lackluster. But then again LG G4 should be good as well along with the HTC M9. Competition is good for us all.