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Andres Cantu

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It's too bad that Samsung flagships already have the displays they have, so they can't improve them in later generations because the human eye is not capable of processing a better image. The iPhone sells so well even without a 1080p OLED screen, so they'll catch up soon.

Samsung has played their better design trump card (much like the iPhone 6's bigger screen), but the difference was that the iPhone's trump card worked whereas Samsung's didn't. The proof is in the lack of sales numbers.
 

AleXXXa

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That awkward moment when you realise Samsung makes most of the parts in Apple products. :D
Haha. LOL.
What's even more ironic is some people here hate Samsung with a passion and they refuse to buy anything made by them. Meanwhile they wait in line for hours for an iphone. :))
 
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grkm3

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It's too bad that Samsung flagships already have the displays they have, so they can't improve them in later generations because the human eye is not capable of processing a better image. The iPhone sells so well even without a 1080p OLED screen, so they'll catch up soon.

Samsung has played their better design trump card (much like the iPhone 6's bigger screen), but the difference was that the iPhone's trump card worked whereas Samsung's didn't. The proof is in the lack of sales numbers.

This is the biggest misconception with phones and what people can see.we tested a 4k video on a 2.5k gs6 screen and compared it to a 6 plus 1080p screen and people could tell the difference from over 4 feet away.

Then some smarty pants busted out science on us and said the human eye can see up to 2100 ppi or a person with 20/20 vision can see .4 arc per second.

He also said that a person with 20/20 vision can easily see up to 877 ppi from 4 in away and people with better vision can get close to 1000ppi from that distance.

You can look this up my friend its 100% accurate

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dec.

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Listen, I'm a huge Apple fan. Own a Macbook Pro, iPad, multiple iPhones throughout the years.

I just bought a Samsung S6 as a secondary phone last month and first time using Android .... and I'm shocked by a few things.

* Samsung's OLED display and resolution blows even the 6S/6S Plus out of the water ... out of the galaxy for that matter. Why is Apple behind and offering low resolution outdated screens compared to the best Samsung/Android phones. Please don't bring up battery life. :) I would die to have an iPhone running iOS with the super crisp Samsung S6 screen. Even photos I take on the S6 and view on the 6/6S look terrible on the 6/6S screen.

* Why isn't Apple catching up with camera capabilities ? They finally upgraded to 12 Megapixels from 8, but kept the same aperture. The S6 camera is simply fantastic and makes the iPhone 6S/6S+ camera look amateur in comparison. I'm aware if Apple tried to match the S6 camera they'd need a bigger sensor and camera would get bigger, so maybe that's the reason.

Only con I have with the S6 is the battery life. But at hundreds cheaper than the 6S/6S+ and beating it in every category except battery life, I'm kinda perplexed at Apple keeping their phones outdated.

welcome to Macrumors. This will be fun! :)
 

grkm3

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The gs6 still holds the best camera in my book.after watching the verge camera shootout the gs6 is easily the best shooter and they didn't even use professional mode or raw images to process later on.

The iPhone 6s plus was soft and lacked balance and detail and got crushed in the violet shots they did.

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Zwhaler

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This is the biggest misconception with phones and what people can see.we tested a 4k video on a 2.5k gs6 screen and compared it to a 6 plus 1080p screen and people could tell the difference from over 4 feet away.

Then some smarty pants busted out science on us and said the human eye can see up to 2100 ppi or a person with 20/20 vision can see .4 arc per second.

He also said that a person with 20/20 vision can easily see up to 877 ppi from 4 in away and people with better vision can get close to 1000ppi from that distance.

You can look this up my friend its 100% accurate

Yup. Some people still spew misinformed nonsense that falls somewhere between Steve's "Retina Display" comment (we love you Steve) and their own unscientifically shaped opinions. It is a fact that the eye can tell the difference much higher than what is the norm these days. According to that other poster, the human eye cannot tell the difference between an iPhone screen and a screen with infinite resolution. I myself am a resolution fanatic, and am excited to see if Samsung releases an Ultra HD (or beyond) AMOLED display on one of their upcoming products.
 

Robstevo

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I'm glad Apple don't use AMOLED. Samsung's AMOLED is suck. I don't like over saturated color & burn-in issues.

Overall I like iPhone 6s except for the camera. Apple really need to do something on the camera. It lag far behind other competitors.
Samsungs screens sucks? Said basically Noone ever apart from apple fan boys.

Over saturated? I would say the apples screens are under saturated. But guess what?you can change the color profiles of the screens to suit your needs :)

Not sure what you mean by burn in but my Note 5 screen is the best i have ever seen and I have had zero problems with it.
 
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Robstevo

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Two things:

1. 1080p being "low resolution" on a 5.5" phone screen is LOL worthy.

2. S6 camera blows the 6S camera out of the water is LOL worthy.
It is low resolution compared the most smart phones these days, especially flag ship phones.

And judging from the pictures the s6 Camera is better.
 

sammich

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This is the biggest misconception with phones and what people can see.we tested a 4k video on a 2.5k gs6 screen and compared it to a 6 plus 1080p screen and people could tell the difference from over 4 feet away.

Then some smarty pants busted out science on us and said the human eye can see up to 2100 ppi or a person with 20/20 vision can see .4 arc per second.

He also said that a person with 20/20 vision can easily see up to 877 ppi from 4 in away and people with better vision can get close to 1000ppi from that distance.

You can look this up my friend its 100% accurate

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2000 PPI @ 4" is the same as 187.5 PPI at 48"

187.5 < 400 (iPhone 6+) < whatever the GS6 PPI is

Therefore, no way someone could tell 4K difference from 4 feet away. Bad science, whoever did the 'test'.
 

Vegastouch

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Same OL ridiculous arguments. Buy an iPhone if you foolishly think AMOLED has burn in problems.
I just watched a news report on the new 6s and they said consumer reports says the camera is only slightly better and if you have a 6 already, save your money for the 7. New color is the biggest change and imo it is a feminine color.
The s phones are never a big change which is a shame after a year wait.
 
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Technarchy

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It is low resolution compared the most smart phones these days, especially flag ship phones.

And judging from the pictures the s6 Camera is better.

I just switched over today. The S6 was traded in for an iPhone 6S.

I've only taken a couple of photos but the very very first impressions is the S6 camera has advantages resulting in more vivid and detailed photos.
 

Cryates

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It is low resolution compared the most smart phones these days, especially flag ship phones.

And judging from the pictures the s6 Camera is better.
That's great that other phones have higher resolution screens, but come on, we are talking about a 5.5" screen here. It's funny that most buyers stay away from a 4K TV because they "won't use it anytime soon" but clamor a 4K phone screen. Makes zero sense.

While the S6 camera make take slightly crisper photos, one of the most important things in phototherapy is color accuracy, and iPhone has always been far ahead of the curve on that. The S6 photos are only "vivid" because the photos come out over-saturated, and not true-to-life on color. Regardless to say the S6 camera "blows It away" is laughable.
 

Dmaynard83

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Samsung has great hardware on the note 5 but they need to work on optimizing software instead of thinking they can pump in more ram, faster processor thinking it will iron out the touchwiz shortcomings.
 
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Tthomas612

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While all this may be true, I don't like the cluster F that Android is. It reminds me too much of windows/pc interface. Stuff is everywhere, not intuitive (at least to me), not user friendly and I don't like the bloat.

Next, I am all Apple. It works perfectly when I need it to and sync's like it should everywhere. I don't have to fiddle with it or do anything special. I also don't like plastic phones and I also do not like Samsung's business practices.

They could have the best screen on the market with 3 day battery life - No.

I agree completely and I am very happy with my iPhone 6s Plus.

The camera is wonderful. Regardless of whether the aperture is the same or not. Apple's 8mp camera was good. Therefore the 12 mp would be great.

The screen resolution could have been bumped up... YES, but big deal. No one is using 4K to the fullest benefits yet much yet 8K
 

Will22

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A person joined yesterday, shortly after an iPhone launch, just to say how the iPhone pales in comparison to another phone? I am shocked.

Doesn't make him wrong though.

I have only done quick comparisons because I spent have of yesterday trying to unbrick my first iP6s but it kept failing in DFU mode so I had to go back to the store to get it replaced but from what I have seen so far the camera on the iP6s is not as good as I hoped it would be. His points about the screen are spot on as well.

In saying that I also think your point is spot on.
 

spriter

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Tried the 6s Plus camera today against what is one of my deal breakers for keeping a phone: fast-moving children. It didn't disappoint. The S6, Note 5, and now 6s Plus are the only ones that pass the test. I've not tried the G4 or new Moto X as they lack in other areas for my needs.

A typical user is unlikely to be disappointed with what Samsung and iPhones from this year produce. And that's a lot of people.

That I now compare flagship cameras to an RX100 mk iii speaks volumes. No, they can't truly match it but they're gaining to the point where the price difference doesn't make up for the quality and (perhaps) inconvenience of carrying a separate camera.

Overall, I'm really pleased with how many phones have improved cameras this year to the point where it's harder to pick a bad one.
 

grkm3

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That's great that other phones have higher resolution screens, but come on, we are talking about a 5.5" screen here. It's funny that most buyers stay away from a 4K TV because they "won't use it anytime soon" but clamor a 4K phone screen. Makes zero sense.

While the S6 camera make take slightly crisper photos, one of the most important things in phototherapy is color accuracy, and iPhone has always been far ahead of the curve on that. The S6 photos are only "vivid" because the photos come out over-saturated, and not true-to-life on color. Regardless to say the S6 camera "blows It away" is laughable.

But the 6s was the phone that was not as accurate and had green tint and washed out soft colors in most tests!

Here is the verge and is highly baised to apple and didn't even use the phone in professional mode or raw format had to say.watch the video and tell me what phone is better.

PS people do buy 4k tvs now they have come down in price.

 

I7guy

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But the 6s was the phone that was not as accurate and had green tint and washed out soft colors in most tests!

Here is the verge and is highly baised to apple and didn't even use the phone in professional mode or raw format had to say.watch the video and tell me what phone is better.

PS people do buy 4k tvs now they have come down in price.

Didn't they also show the s6 didn't do as well in "landscape " photos blowing out the highlights to use one example.
 

Cryates

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But the 6s was the phone that was not as accurate and had green tint and washed out soft colors in most tests!

Here is the verge and is highly baised to apple and didn't even use the phone in professional mode or raw format had to say.watch the video and tell me what phone is better.

PS people do buy 4k tvs now they have come down in price.

As I was saying, and the video agrees, neither camera blows the other one out of the water. So, you're point?
 
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Andres Cantu

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This is the biggest misconception with phones and what people can see.we tested a 4k video on a 2.5k gs6 screen and compared it to a 6 plus 1080p screen and people could tell the difference from over 4 feet away.

Then some smarty pants busted out science on us and said the human eye can see up to 2100 ppi or a person with 20/20 vision can see .4 arc per second.

He also said that a person with 20/20 vision can easily see up to 877 ppi from 4 in away and people with better vision can get close to 1000ppi from that distance.

You can look this up my friend its 100% accurate

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Still doesn't change the fact that this situation is one of diminishing returns. 1440p with slightly less battery life and slightly less performance or 1080p with slightly better battery life and slightly better performance? I'd take the latter any day.
 

grkm3

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As I was saying, and the video agrees, neither camera blows the other one out of the water. So, you're point?

The girls face on the 6s is HORRIBLE if that was the galaxy s6 taking it apple insider would make a whole story headline about how crappy the camera is.lets not forget this is a apple baised site and they held the gs6 back by not using it to its max potential.

They could of easily swapped into pro mode and corrected all those issues and the over sharpening could be gone in raw format and edited on dedicated computer software like every professional photographer does.next time you go to a wedding ask the photographer what format he is talking the pics and don't be surprised its all done in raw unprocessed pictures.

They held the gs6 back to make it as fair as possible for the iPhone to stand a chance and the colors on the flowers are blown out and the gs6 is far superior even in quick snap auto mode.

They also said the iPhone had a hard time focusing up close too.
 
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