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I7guy

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Hilarious stuff. The company that constantly pushes tech to the bleeding edge, that is on the cusp of releasing it's first foldable display phone, that has hit it's stride and has found it's footing in its high end line more than ever before, should be more worried. Yes indeed, more worried than a company that has gotten fat and lazy and produces bean counter products and is now seeing a decline in sales due to the consumer demanding for their money. Yup sounds right. Lol
You mean like an ir blaster, their hardware company roots show through.
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I totally agree , looks like the i7 is gonna be a bit lame, and not a patch on the 6 month old s7, so when the note 7 drops and sets new benchmarks thus extending their lead over all the competition who is gonna step.up and challenge Samsung.
Nobody has to challenge them, They'll do it to themselves like the Galaxy s6.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Well the headline seems good for Samsung but I'm not sure what difference it makes to the general consumer especially outside of the US?

I think Samsung have pushed the envelope this year and it's given their competitors a kick up the backside. The iPhone this year needs to be something special and I think Apple know it can't be half baked. This marketshare rubbish changes like the wind.
 

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The iPhone this year needs to be something special and I think Apple know it can't be half baked. .
I fear you may be disappointed then, and you are so wrong if you think they can't get away with a minimal upgrade, they have done it many many times, and will continue to do so while folks buy their stuff no matter what.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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I fear you may be disappointed then, and you are so wrong if you think they can't get away with a minimal upgrade, they have done it many many times, and will continue to do so while folks buy their stuff no matter what..
I won't be disappointed as I'm not planning on using my upgrade this year due to not being interested enough to spend £1000+ on a phone. I do sense though that consumers are more aware this time around and this years offering needs to deliver where in previous years they did just enough.
 
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5105973

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I can't say I'm switching because I will still have my SE, which I love and is perfection as my daily driver. But I'm really planning on giving the Note 7 and eventually Nougat a try, trading my 6S Plus for Note 7 instead of an iPhone 7. Lol, does that make me bi-curious when it comes to smart phone OS'es? ;)
 

ryanwarsaw

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I won't be disappointed as I'm not planning on using my upgrade this year due to not being interested enough to spend £1000+ on a phone. I do sense though that consumers are more aware this time around and this years offering needs to deliver where in previous years they did just enough.

The main difference I see this year s that Apple isn't the only game in town anymore.
 

bufffilm

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I think bringing back the SD card was a big plus for what they did. Alot were happy with that. It has meant having a 32GB phone is enough for me. Which says alot as I need a 128GB iphone 6s plus for alot of my photos, videos for example. From a cost point of view it is a big saving.

I'd like to see the S8 with a 64gb base.

32gb isn't quite big enough when you consider that not every app/feature can be relocated to the sdcard.
 

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Good for Samsung. Key is maintaining their loyalty %. Would like to see Samsung's marketshare grow in the United States even though they still seem to be a distant 2nd to Apple.

I now know why Samsung doesn't release the more efficient Exynos versions of the S7 edge and Note 7 there. I believe because Exynos doesn't have the proper LTE bands there as the Qualcomm doea. But I prefer the Exynos over Snapdragon Samsungs. Snapdragon gets the stronger GPU but runs hotter and low battery efficiency.

This is where Samsung is superior unlike the Samsung A9 chip over TSMC A9 iPhone 6s from last year. Americans get kinda jipped out with Snapdragon 820 again. A 3 hour difference in video playback with Exynos is much greater than the 6s users experienced with "Chipgate."
 
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MRU

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Looks like the cycle is continuing ...

9to5Mac: iPhone sales growing again in US & Europe, iPhone outsells Samsung S7 in US, iPhone SE best-selling phone in UK. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwnJ_X7Sw

iPhone outselling S7 again in US and the SE is biggest selling phone in the UK.

So it's just another case of swings to and fro between Apple & Samsung.

The biggest issue will still be for any other manufacturers to gain any traction given the foothold these two have.
 
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The Game 161

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Looks like the cycle is continuing ...

9to5Mac: iPhone sales growing again in US & Europe, iPhone outsells Samsung S7 in US, iPhone SE best-selling phone in UK. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwnJ_X7Sw

iPhone outselling S7 again in US and the SE is biggest selling phone in the UK.

So it's just another case of swings to and fro between Apple & Samsung.

The biggest issue will still be for any other manufacturers to gain any traction given the foothold these two have.
Yep I expect that to continue

All signs pointing to note 7 having great sales and I'm sure iPhone 7 will sell better than people think
 
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epicrayban

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I'm sure iPhone 7 will sell better than people think

I'm sure too.

I've always argued that Apple is far from "doom" despite how people feel about their actually products' capabilities (especially when compared to the competition). And that's the problem. The Apple branding is that strong.
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Looks like the cycle is continuing ...

9to5Mac: iPhone sales growing again in US & Europe, iPhone outsells Samsung S7 in US, iPhone SE best-selling phone in UK. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwnJ_X7Sw

iPhone outselling S7 again in US and the SE is biggest selling phone in the UK.

So it's just another case of swings to and fro between Apple & Samsung.

The biggest issue will still be for any other manufacturers to gain any traction given the foothold these two have.

Yup. It's the ebb and flow. And once again, this should make clear that sales and profits aren't always an indicator of a better product, as some love to argue here.

According to them, the iPhone is now once again the best product. Phew.
 
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MrNomNoms

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-Security updates. Big Android updates are still slow, but I am mightily impressed with how they're pushing out security patches.

-I know I mentioned software improvements above, but it's worth pointing out that this happens actually twice a year if you count the Galaxy S and Note as two separate times. They are constantly doing exactly what the general public wants them to: making TouchWiz leaner, cleaner, smoother, and ever more stable. As I predicted, Android software is reaching a crossroads -- Android N is adopting useful TW features, and TW is adopting N's speed, stability, security, etc. It'll be interesting to see how software/skins will really factor into people's buying decision in the future.

What I think is interesting are how many companies who are adopting Samsung Galaxy S7 phones as part of their fleet phones which probably explains why, at least for those outside of the United States, the carriers aren't getting in the way like they are in the United States. I think that is also the explanation why there has been an uptick given that Samsung for years mainly focused on consumers but are now courting business users as well who want an alternative to iOS along with the relationship they have with Microsoft and Office 365 it should mean an interesting future. For me the biggest issues I've had with Apple so far has been the slow decline in iCloud reliability such as for example the history of my browser not being properly sync'ed, the saving of passwords aren't always saved reliably, there are hick ups where a website will freeze the whole browser/UI (I can move the cursor around) then it would spring back to life again.
 
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jrswizzle

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I'm sure too.

I've always argued that Apple is far from "doom" despite how people feel about their actually products' capabilities (especially when compared to the competition). And that's the problem. The Apple branding is that strong.
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Yup. It's the ebb and flow. And once again, this should make clear that sales and profits aren't always an indicator of a better product, as some love to argue here.

According to them, the iPhone is now once again the best product. Phew.

How do people actually feel about Apple products? I'm talking about PEOPLE....not a handful of Android using forum goers....people love their iPhones. I see it daily. The iPhone is every bit as capable as an S7. I've had them both. Apple has a strong brand, but they aren't selling garbage in a pretty container.

It's amazing to me that after all this, people still think that if something doesn't work the way they think it should, then it doesn't work at all. The way people talk, you'd think real work/business/life can't be run on Apple products....Newsflash, the most profitable company in the world is run by Apple products.

Some folks love Android, some love iOS. Get over it and move on.
 

admob71

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It's amazing to me that after all this, people still think that if something doesn't work the way they think it should, then it doesn't work at all.


With respect you have contradicted apples famous jobs mantra "it just works" . , suggesting that non Apple devices somehow don't work properly.

Have a nice day.
 

Gav2k

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I wonder if Samsung still base there 'sales figure' on units shipped....
 

epicrayban

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How do people actually feel about Apple products? I'm talking about PEOPLE....not a handful of Android using forum goers....people love their iPhones. I see it daily. The iPhone is every bit as capable as an S7. I've had them both. Apple has a strong brand, but they aren't selling garbage in a pretty container.

It's amazing to me that after all this, people still think that if something doesn't work the way they think it should, then it doesn't work at all. The way people talk, you'd think real work/business/life can't be run on Apple products....Newsflash, the most profitable company in the world is run by Apple products.

Some folks love Android, some love iOS. Get over it and move on.

It's clear you didn't understand a single thing in my post. That's okay. The "people" that I'm talking about are the ones that think Apple is doomed due to a dip in their sales or their modest iphone 7 rumors. I argue the opposite; that Apple is far from doom.

That second paragraph has nothing to do with what you quoted.
 
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Klyster

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So in the US and France, Apple is increasing marketshare, Android is killing the rest of the markets shown and everything else is irrelevant.
 
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Shanghaichica

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So in the US and France, Apple is increasing marketshare, Android is killing the rest of the markets shown and everything else is irrelevant.
Android has not declined in any market except for the US. It seems as though Windows phones are in serious decline in all markets and that Apple and Android are moping up the overflow.
 
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epicrayban

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http://www.cultofmac.com/442781/ios-falls-as-androids-market-share-skyrockets/#disqus_thread


Cult of Mac: iOS falls as Android’s market share skyrockets



According to new figures published by Gartner, Android is currently the mobile operating system found on a whopping 86.2 percent of handsets worldwide.

iOS, by comparison, lost two percentage points in 2016’s second quarter against the comparable quarter last year: falling slightly from 14.6 percent worldwide to 12.9 percent.
 

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http://www.cultofmac.com/442781/ios-falls-as-androids-market-share-skyrockets/#disqus_thread


Cult of Mac: iOS falls as Android’s market share skyrockets



According to new figures published by Gartner, Android is currently the mobile operating system found on a whopping 86.2 percent of handsets worldwide.

iOS, by comparison, lost two percentage points in 2016’s second quarter against the comparable quarter last year: falling slightly from 14.6 percent worldwide to 12.9 percent.

Why do you guys keep bringing up market share? This has been debunked for years. Of course a free OS that gets plastered on a billion different devices will have a substantial lead in market share. Utterly meaningless statistic.
 

epicrayban

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Why do you guys keep bringing up market share? This has been debunked for years. Of course a free OS that gets plastered on a billion different devices will have a substantial lead in market share. Utterly meaningless statistic.

I'm not sure I follow. What about the markershare data needs debunking exactly? Was there anything incorrect in the story?

Utterly meaningless? So profits for Apple is a key talking point when discussing their successes, but profit for Google is "utterly meaningless"?
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Marketshare between operating systems has always been a hollow statistic due to the fact Android is in thousands of independent manufacturers devices. The only time marketshare is perhaps interesting is when it's the top end of the market where flagships are competing for the same customers. I doubt Apple cares that 40,000 Tesco Hubl tablets were sold at £45 each last Christmas. They will care about Samsung and Microsoft however.
 

jamezr

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Why do you guys keep bringing up market share? This has been debunked for years. Of course a free OS that gets plastered on a billion different devices will have a substantial lead in market share. Utterly meaningless statistic.
Last I checked I've never been charged for IOS...... So they both seem to be free.
 
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