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DanteMann

macrumors 6502
May 23, 2011
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The whole point was that in general, something made of aluminum will last longer than something made of plastic. Sorry that point wasn't clear enough.

Sorry, since we are STRICTLY talking about smartphones here, you're being incredibly unrealistic. We all know without a shadow of a doubt, the absolute majority of us replace our phones every 2-3 years. Guess what, the GS3 and every other smartphone made of polycarbonate will last and endure daily use with drops here and there for much longer than we intend on keeping them. I don't know any polycarbonate phone with a shattered back as you put it. Polycarbonate doesn't shatter. But I do know a whole heck of a lot of iPhone 4/4S' that have shattered glass backs, since glass shatters. And that didn't seem to stop you from buying one did it? Did you shout from the hill tops of how bad a glass backing is easily shattered on a mobile device? I'm guessing you couldn't care less. But as stated earlier, most of us use cases, so the whole argument is moot for a majority of us.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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Yeah, because Apple is doing so much innovating and taking the industry to new boundaries. What a bloody joke Apple are with their scuff easy tin can they call a "premium" feeling device. The iPhone 5 and iOS6 has been one issue after another. So much for your "polished" OS that "just works."

Sorry my money is on Samsung. They have come so far and exceeded the iPhone in almost ever way in just 3 short years. They pioneered larger screens on devices with minimizing the overall physical size of the device at the same time. Touchwiz on it's own does more than iOS could ever dare offer the user. I just love how people continue to hate on things they have no experience with. Or they read how some piece of new software sucks, and continue to parrot this BS over the years like software can never improve. Move on son, move on.

As for build quality, let's see.... Most of us, NOT ALL, but an overwhelming MAJORITY of us change phones every 2-3 years. Why the F would any manufacturer wanna blow more cost on building a device to last FOREVER. Polycarbonate is the best choice to keep weight and cost at a minimum. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Samsung phones in terms of build quality. And they feel absolutely amazing in the hand. And considering the sales of the GS3, it seems a majority of the self thinking public can see this. Too bad for you, you don't see this. Ignorance isn't always bliss, sometimes it's just ignorant. :rolleyes:

Their strategy is to hurl as many phones as they can at the market, hoping some of them are successful. None of them look like they got any attention; they're all made of glossy, flimsy plastic (which reviewers constantly knock them about), and they're bogged down by an ugly, worthless skin. Their most innovative invention was to reintroduce the stylus back into mainstream phones, without offering any really special functionality. They then tried to capitalize the success of that product with a half-assed tablet. They think that more specs = better phone, and people actually buy into that.

All of their smartphones are just really generic and unremarkable. Oh, and they blatantly tried to mimic the iPhone.
 

KnightMan

macrumors member
Sep 12, 2012
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Their strategy is to hurl as many phones as they can at the market, hoping some of them are successful. None of them look like they got any attention; they're all made of glossy, flimsy plastic (which reviewers constantly knock them about), and they're bogged down by an ugly, worthless skin. Their most innovative invention was to reintroduce the stylus back into mainstream phones, without offering any really special functionality. They then tried to capitalize the success of that product with a half-assed tablet. They think that more specs = better phone, and people actually buy into that.

All of their smartphones are just really generic and unremarkable. Oh, and they blatantly tried to mimic the iPhone.

Oh really, let's see how many high end phones they have hurled into the market. Oh yeah, just one, the Galaxy S series. Let's see what they also have done, oh yeah, created a new niche, the phablet with a truly usable stylus with wacom technology for 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity. Yeah, looks like they're throwing endless amounts of devices at the market.

Bottom Line: You're bitter a single phone other than iPhone has sold so many units, and continues to dominate the world. And your bitter a company other than Apple is innovating and leading the industry.

Irony: You wouldn't have the iPhone 5 as it is, if it weren't for Samsung's phones, specifically the Galaxy S line and Galaxy Note, being so bloody popular.

Just give credit to the true OEMs like Samsung who actually invent the technology to bring the mobile world to new horizons. You can bet you'd still be looking at a single core cpu, 512MB of RAM and that pathetic 3.5 inch screen on your iphone otherwise. FACT.
 
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hyteckit

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Jul 29, 2007
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I'm hoping Samsung makes 6" screens the new normal.

Galaxy s: 4.2" => 4.8" => 5"
Note: 5.3" => 5.5" => 6"
 

KnightMan

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Sep 12, 2012
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I'm hoping Samsung makes 6" screens the new normal.

Galaxy s: 4.2" => 4.8" => 5"
Note: 5.3" => 5.5" => 6"

I can definitely go with this. Especially the Galaxy S4 going to a 5 inch display. I can easily see them doing this without making the phone bigger. 2013 is going to be an amazing year for the Android guys. We all know very will that Apple won't be bringing anything with a WOW factor anytime soon.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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Oh really, let's see how many high end phones they have hurled into the market. Oh yeah, just one, the Galaxy S series. Let's see what they also have done, oh yeah, created a new niche, the phablet with a truly usable stylus with wacom technology for 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity. Yeah, looks like they're throwing endless amounts of devices at the market.

Bottom Line: You're bitter a single phone other than iPhone has sold so many units, and continues to dominate the world. And your bitter a company other than Apple is innovating and leading the industry.

Irony: You wouldn't have the iPhone 5 as it is, if it weren't for Samsung's phones, specifically the Galaxy S line and Galaxy Note, being so bloody popular.

Just give credit to the true OEMs like Samsung who actually invent the technology to bring the mobile world to new horizons. You can bet you'd still be looking at a single core cpu, 512MB of RAM and that pathetic 3.5 inch screen on your iphone otherwise. FACT.

Dude, I'm not in a relationship with Apple, I don't care that Samsung's Galaxy line is nearly as successful as the iPhone. That last bit is quite laughable, though. How do I owe Samsung for the iPhone 5's design and horsepower? Apple made their own chip, a chip that's more power efficient and more powerful (everything else being equal) than any Samsung SoC. And the iPhone 5 has infinitely better design and engineering than any of Samsung's phones. Really, you ought to thank Apple for the Galaxy S line. Maybe you should go read the patent lawsuit decision again.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
Dude, I'm not in a relationship with Apple, I don't care that Samsung's Galaxy line is nearly as successful as the iPhone. That last bit is quite laughable, though. How do I owe Samsung for the iPhone 5's design and horsepower? Apple made their own chip, a chip that's more power efficient and more powerful (everything else being equal) than any Samsung SoC. And the iPhone 5 has infinitely better design and engineering than any of Samsung's phones. Really, you ought to thank Apple for the Galaxy S line. Maybe you should go read the patent lawsuit decision again.


Two things:

First, the design of the iPhone is not infinitely better than any of Samsungs. Their screen is too small and it is skinny as well and scratches too easily. Just to name a few.

Second...of the court hearings they have had on the patent lawsuits, Apple has only won ONE of them(here in the USA) and lost the others and were ordered to pay Samsungs court costs on the last one.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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Two things:

First, the design of the iPhone is not infinitely better than any of Samsungs. Their screen is too small and it is skinny as well and scratches too easily. Just to name a few.

Second...of the court hearings they have had on the patent lawsuits, Apple has only won ONE of them(here in the USA) and lost the others and were ordered to pay Samsungs court costs on the last one.

They were ordered to pay the court costs because they couldn't bear to apologize for losing the lawsuit due to Samsung's product being "less cool." And how is skinny a bad thing? Samsung could not have made this phone, they've never made anything even close.

They won the big lawsuit, and the evidence showed that Samsung wanted to copy Apple.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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992
Las Vegas, NV
Samsung is treading in dangerous territory with their Galaxy S line. Not too many people are sitting around wishing their Galaxy S3 was bigger. There are more people wishing it was a bit smaller, like 4.5 inches. Galaxy fans who want a bigger device already have the Note 2. Sales will drop on the S line if they make the S4 with a 5 inch screen. will be too big for your average user.

Well early leaks have said it will be a 5" screen but the overall size of the phone will be the same as the GS3. If that is the case, it will work for me. If it is bigger, it wont. I am at size capacity now with my GS3.

We'll see. Im going to get a N4 sometime in Dec or so which overall size wise is a bit smaller than the GS3. I dont think the S4 will be out til early summer.
 

inhalewaste

macrumors member
Nov 5, 2012
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Their most innovative invention was to reintroduce the stylus back into mainstream phones, without offering any really special functionality.

So, what functionality does Flyover provide, exactly? Or are you also admitting iOS 6 doesn't offer any innovative feature with functionality? I thought innovation was paramount to your preference with Apple?
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
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Las Vegas, NV
They were ordered to pay the court costs because they couldn't bear to apologize for losing the lawsuit due to Samsung's product being "less cool." And how is skinny a bad thing? Samsung could not have made this phone, they've never made anything even close.

Sure they have and you better get used to a plastic back because if Apple puts NFC in its next phone, it will be plastic or glass again..which isnt a good design and yes im going to get a N4 but dont care for the glass back. A case will be a must right after purchase.

They won the big lawsuit, and the evidence showed that Samsung wanted to copy Apple.

Lost the other three. SS wont pay a dime and it will get appealed. I really dont care who wins these lawsuits because i think they are stupid. Apple looks like the bad guy in all these.
You dont see TV companies suing each other and all the TV 's look the same and use the same technology, or car companies, or motorcycle companies, Guitar makers, etc,etc.
 

Timzer

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Nov 10, 2011
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Dude, I'm not in a relationship with Apple, I don't care that Samsung's Galaxy line is nearly as successful as the iPhone. That last bit is quite laughable, though. How do I owe Samsung for the iPhone 5's design and horsepower? Apple made their own chip, a chip that's more power efficient and more powerful (everything else being equal) than any Samsung SoC. And the iPhone 5 has infinitely better design and engineering than any of Samsung's phones. Really, you ought to thank Apple for the Galaxy S line. Maybe you should go read the patent lawsuit decision again.


I believe the point of his post was, because the Galaxy S phones have sold so well despite their screen size, the iPhone had no choice but to bump up it's specs and screen size. Otherwise we all know all too well that Apple is not about giving you bleeding edge specs, and bigger displays. They had no choice but to bump up the screen size. Steve was the one that said nobody wanted a 4 inch phone. Look were the iPhone is now. Hence you can thank Samsung, the biggest name in Android and in Smartphones in general for this trend. Because of Samsung, people expect MORE for their money. In 2013, Apple will fall even further behind. Remember how PPI was so important, seems like nobody in the Apple camp is talking PPI as much anymore. Wonder why? :rolleyes:
 

swy05

macrumors 6502
Aug 9, 2008
411
0
Dude, I'm not in a relationship with Apple, I don't care that Samsung's Galaxy line is nearly as successful as the iPhone. That last bit is quite laughable, though. How do I owe Samsung for the iPhone 5's design and horsepower? Apple made their own chip, a chip that's more power efficient and more powerful (everything else being equal) than any Samsung SoC. And the iPhone 5 has infinitely better design and engineering than any of Samsung's phones. Really, you ought to thank Apple for the Galaxy S line. Maybe you should go read the patent lawsuit decision again.


Dude.... just stop....

The more you talk the more people are ridiculing you.

Who made Apple's chips? Gee, I guess it was Samsung.

And you know what's even funnier, they are rebadged Samsung chips.



Seriously. Stahp!
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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So, what functionality does Flyover provide, exactly? Or are you also admitting iOS 6 doesn't offer any innovative feature with functionality? I thought innovation was paramount to your preference with Apple?

I don't know where you ever got that idea. Flyover is a total gimmick.

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Dude.... just stop....

The more you talk the more people are ridiculing you.

Who made Apple's chips? Gee, I guess it was Samsung.

And you know what's even funnier, they are rebadged Samsung chips.



Seriously. Stahp!

Shows how informed you are. The A6 is made by Samsung (not for much longer) and is an Apple original. Not a rebadged chip in the slightest.

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I believe the point of his post was, because the Galaxy S phones have sold so well despite their screen size, the iPhone had no choice but to bump up it's specs and screen size. Otherwise we all know all too well that Apple is not about giving you bleeding edge specs, and bigger displays. They had no choice but to bump up the screen size. Steve was the one that said nobody wanted a 4 inch phone. Look were the iPhone is now. Hence you can thank Samsung, the biggest name in Android and in Smartphones in general for this trend. Because of Samsung, people expect MORE for their money. In 2013, Apple will fall even further behind. Remember how PPI was so important, seems like nobody in the Apple camp is talking PPI as much anymore. Wonder why? :rolleyes:

I can thank Samsung for specs getting better in smartphones? You don't think that's a bit of a stretch? Things always progress, it's just how technology moves.
 

blackhand1001

macrumors 68030
Jan 6, 2009
2,600
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Dude, I'm not in a relationship with Apple, I don't care that Samsung's Galaxy line is nearly as successful as the iPhone. That last bit is quite laughable, though. How do I owe Samsung for the iPhone 5's design and horsepower? Apple made their own chip, a chip that's more power efficient and more powerful (everything else being equal) than any Samsung SoC. And the iPhone 5 has infinitely better design and engineering than any of Samsung's phones. Really, you ought to thank Apple for the Galaxy S line. Maybe you should go read the patent lawsuit decision again.

You realize the exynos 5250 mops the floor with the a6?
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
13,161
3,721
Boston, MA
I am not sure it will become the new normal. There are still people that find the traditional 4" display too large. Will they popularize it more? I think so. The note and note 2 seem to be doing well. But I have a hard time seeing this becoming the standard. I could be wrong though.
 

blackhand1001

macrumors 68030
Jan 6, 2009
2,600
37
GPU is faster as well. It a little more than just a clock speed advantage. Its over twice as fast in v8, gets sub 600ms sunspider, and is a true cortex a15.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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GPU is faster as well. It a little more than just a clock speed advantage. Its over twice as fast in v8, gets sub 600ms sunspider, and is a true cortex a15.

Show me where the GPU is better than the A6X. And clock per clock, they seem about the same CPU wise.
 

blackhand1001

macrumors 68030
Jan 6, 2009
2,600
37
Show me where the GPU is better than the A6X. And clock per clock, they seem about the same CPU wise.


Exynos 5250 Apple A6
SunSpider(lower is better) 668 908
V8(higher is better) 3871 1538
Octane(higher is better) 3465 1672.
 

swy05

macrumors 6502
Aug 9, 2008
411
0
I don't know where you ever got that idea. Flyover is a total gimmick.

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Shows how informed you are. The A6 is made by Samsung (not for much longer) and is an Apple original. Not a rebadged chip in the slightest.

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I can thank Samsung for specs getting better in smartphones? You don't think that's a bit of a stretch? Things always progress, it's just how technology moves.

So let me get this straight. Because your next response shows everyone here what everyone thinks you are.

Samsung used to be good and not crap like you say because their CPU's are used in the iphone 4s and ipad mini.

But, Samsung is now crap because Apple doesn't use their CPU's and only relies on Samsung to build/fab them. Because as you know, fab is an easy walk in the park.

Very good.

Oh wait, I forgot. You said Samsung has always been crap.

You've become so lost in your statements that you don't know what's up or down anymore.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
2,004
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So let me get this straight. Because your next response shows everyone here what everyone thinks you are.

Samsung used to be good and not crap like you say because their CPU's are used in the iphone 4s and ipad mini.

But, Samsung is now crap because Apple doesn't use their CPU's and only relies on Samsung to build/fab them. Because as you know, fab is the an easy walk in the park.

Very good.

What the heck are you talking about mate?
 

Mr. Retrofire

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Mar 2, 2010
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www.emiliana.cl/en
If they want to make a 5 inch screen mainstream, they should make an all-screen device. THAT would be innovation. But no, instead they're going to cram specs and size into their chintzy plastic bodies, slap on some hideous, uninspired TouchWiz, and bill it as innovation. Sounds great.
LOL. Wake me up, if you have real arguments! Thank you.
 
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