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calvol

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Feb 3, 2011
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MBA > VAIO-Z > Samsung i5 (good try though)
Samsung dropped the ball on screen resolution.
What is Samsung's battery life? I'm getting 8-10 on a UMBA, light duty.
 

zesta

macrumors member
Jan 31, 2008
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The Samsung just doesn't look as nice as the Air.

And the keyboard layout looks like it was designed by a retarded monkey. What the hell were they thinking?
 

ZipZap

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Dec 14, 2007
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Generally, no. I've been using Macs since 1986 in my business and at home and have never had one go down. But my colleagues that use PC's are constantly dealing with viruses and broken Dells and HP's.

And I know plenty of folks who have indeed had issues with Macs.

Many have posted on this very forum with issues.

I highly doubt you have never had an issue with a Apple since 1986. But if true congrats as you were extrodinarily lucky.
 

wisty

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Feb 18, 2009
219
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The Series 9 is based around a bright (400 nits) 13.3-inch 1366×768 edge-to-edge display. It starts at $1,649 with a 1.4GHz Core i5-2537M dual-core processor, 4GB of memory, a 128GB solid-state drive (in place of a hard drive) and Windows 7 Home Premium. The only configurable option is the operating system–Windows 7 Professional adds $50 to the system price.
CPU - no real winner. The 1.83 MBA is 30% faster, but a new i5 is ~30% faster (clock for clock) than a C2D.

GPU - MBA wins.

Battery life - the Samsung will use less power (i5 is efficient, and no hungry GPU), but Apple may have a better batter.

OS - I'd rather OSX.

Screen - MBA. Unless you compare it to the 11" MBA - then they are similar.

Touchpad, keyboard, etc - probably the MBA.

Case - probably Samsung (though it looks better in the promo photos than up close - it looks like it's *designed* to look skinny in a photo).

Price - MBA.



Not an MBA killer, and the next MBA will be even better ... but not too bad. It's good to see *some* competition.

And it's good to see that while 10" netbooks (with crap builds, mechanical hard drives, and Atom processors) are cheaper than a MBA, capable ultraportables are no cheaper. Yet.
 

Dr McKay

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Aug 11, 2010
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Well, Zune is a product, and iTunes is the software.
I suppose you mean Zune (which is discontinued because nobody wanted it) vs the iPod. And, as we ALL know, the iPod beats the Zune.

And Windows Phone 7 (COnfusing name because there hasnt been 7 windows phones yet....) does not beat out the iPhone 4.
Im pretty sure there isnt anything "retina" about the "Windows phone 7".

He means Zune, the program, it does everything iTunes does (Minus the App Store), plays music and video, you can download or stream music and movies from the store side of it.

zune-software.png
 

benji888

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Sep 27, 2006
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... it runs Windows and it is a Samsung, which means in 12 to 18 months the keys will be falling off it and the drive and graphics card failing and it will be generally falling apart. Thanks, but no thanks. Go troll someplace else.

exactly, I owned a samsung DVD-r & VCR combo, the DVD ran out with the warranty, that was my first samsung, I won't buy samsung again...they can build some great electronic components, but they don't know how to make devices to use them.
 

benji888

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Sep 27, 2006
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Although this might be the nicest looking PC laptop I've seen, it still runs crappy windows, and it doesn't have the "fit & finish" the air has.

I do like the brushed metal look.

I think we may see liquid metal this year in iPhones and/or iPad 3, and then, 2012, they will liquid metal the MacBooks. One thing with liquid metal is color can be added to it, it would not be painted or dyed on the outside, so a scratch would not show. But they will do smaller devices first. Apple is going to change the game as soon as you think they won't, don't think because they've got something that works they won't change it.
 
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Dr McKay

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Aug 11, 2010
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Disgusting, wrong, foul, illegal, and begs the question "why?"

Why is it 'Disgusting, Wrong, Foul'

And would you care to find it written in a book of Law that you cannot run OS X in a virtual Machine? Just because it goes against Apples Policy.

And why? The same reason why I also have a Windows 3.1 VM.

Because I can.;)
 

wisty

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Feb 18, 2009
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That's just your opinion. If we look at the market share, iPhone is way ahead of WP7.
I bet if you look, there'll be a video of Ballmer savaging the iPhone over it's lack of Apps (when WinCE was king), and it's lack of features that are missing from WP7 - like copy and paste.


i5-2537M goes up to 2.3GHz with Turbo so it is way faster than the old C2D.

OK. Plus hyper-threading, for parallel stuff. It's not always way faster though.

Geekbench2 shows ~3800 for the Samsung, vs ~3400 for the 13" MBA ultimate.

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/351809
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/381027

Both are capable, neither is a powerhouse.

I'm still a MBA fan, thanks to the screen, the general build, and OSX.
 

captgecos

macrumors newbie
Oct 28, 2010
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Texas
It is a good thing Samsung is competing with the MBA, as it will lead to better Macs too.

This is a nice looking computer. I hope that Apple will be pushed to compete and improve the MBA. The Samsung is using Sandy Bridge while the MBA is still two cycles behind with the C2D. Hopefully the next MBA will have Ivy Bridge but you never know with Apple. It can't hurt for Apple to have a little pressure from competition. Then on second thought, competition has really made Apple jump through hoops on the iPhone/iPad :rolleyes:
 

chaoticbear

macrumors 6502
Jul 25, 2007
265
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I really like the finish; otherwise this thing is just uggs. The Dell Adamo, while still pricier than the current MBA, seemed like a closer replacement (even if it wasn't 0.01 lbs lighter than the MBA.)
 

shen

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Jun 19, 2003
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Why is it 'Disgusting, Wrong, Foul'

And would you care to find it written in a book of Law that you cannot run OS X in a virtual Machine? Just because it goes against Apples Policy.

And why? The same reason why I also have a Windows 3.1 VM.

Because I can.;)

I have run every version of windows from 2.0 up except for 7, didn't bother trying it. Every version with the possible exception of 3.11 was somewhere between less than good, and pure evil. Running windows is simply, in my personal opinion, disgusting, wrong, foul, unnecessary, evil, and yucky.

So far, when the EULA says don't do it, it is generally upheld. That makes it illegal until ruled otherwise, though certainly challengeable and possibly winnable, still illegal until that time.

And yes, you can. But that isn't enough reason for me to dump my wife for a whore. YMMV (Your Morals May Vary)
 

2IS

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Jan 9, 2011
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I like it. I actually prefer Windows 7 to OSX so that's a non-issue for me. i5 is a very nice bonus but the screen resolution comes in at a paltry 1366x768 which is a bummer.

I'd also like to add, comparing wives:whores to OSX:Windows is quite literally the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard.
 
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ritmomundo

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Jan 12, 2011
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Like hiring a cheap hooker with 4 STDs and asking her to wear my wife's evening dress. Disgusting, wrong, foul, illegal, and begs the question "why?"

Wow, you're an apple fanboy if I ever did see one. Windows is not THAT bad...

That's just your opinion. If we look at the market share, iPhone is way ahead of WP7.

Same could be said about Windows dominating the market over OSX.

This is a nice looking computer. I hope that Apple will be pushed to compete and improve the MBA. The Samsung is using Sandy Bridge while the MBA is still two cycles behind with the C2D. Hopefully the next MBA will have Ivy Bridge but you never know with Apple. It can't hurt for Apple to have a little pressure from competition. Then on second thought, competition has really made Apple jump through hoops on the iPhone/iPad :rolleyes:

I agree. I love my MBA, but I'm not so jaded as to not recognize that this laptop does look cool. Sure, it doesn't look as thin because its not tapered, but thats still impressive. I like the brushed metal look (as long as it is actual metal, and not plastic). The screen looks like it has that edge-to-edge glass over the bezel that the MBPs have, but unfortunately, the MBA does not. And better hardware specs. The competition is pretty darn good. Apple, time to step up your game and give us something even more awesome in the next MBA refresh!
 

GFLPraxis

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Mar 17, 2004
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Are you reading the same specs I am?:confused:

He's partially right.

The Samsung costs $50 more than the top-end MacBook Air, has a better CPU and more RAM and USB 3.

However, it has half the storage space (and SSD's are the most expensive components in these devices, a 256 GB SSD costs ~$300-$400 depending on quality), a weaker video card, a lower resolution screen,
 

ritmomundo

macrumors 68020
Jan 12, 2011
2,041
587
Los Angeles, CA
Generally, no. I've been using Macs since 1986 in my business and at home and have never had one go down. But my colleagues that use PC's are constantly dealing with viruses and broken Dells and HP's.

Its all about the user. I've been using PCs for 15+ years (and still do), and I've rarely had issues. I've been using Macs for the past ~5 years, and also rarely had issues. If the user installs things left and right and isn't careful about what he's doing on the web, then yes, there is the potential for issues regardless of what he's using - PC or Mac. Yes, PCs are attacked by viruses, and this is why you need antivirus software. One day, someone will come out with a virus for Macs that will find a way to bypass OSX's security measures, but no one will be prepared for it because everyone assumes that Macs are invulnerable. Its only a matter of time.

As for PCs breaking down, you have to remember, OSX is installed only on hardware made by Apple. Windows is installed on all PCs, made by high end companies (which will see less issues) and low end companies (which will have a lot of issues, because of cheaper build quality). Buy a really good quality PC, and you'll see just as few issues as you would with a Mac. Take care of it, be safe on the web, and I'm sure you won't have any problems.
 

MacFever

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Feb 1, 2007
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Samsung just made the AIR look dated....lol

Core I5, USB 3.0

where is the new MBA with the comparable I5 and Thunderbolt???

What is apple waiting on really? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

magbarn

macrumors 68040
Oct 25, 2008
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I bet if you look, there'll be a video of Ballmer savaging the iPhone over it's lack of Apps (when WinCE was king), and it's lack of features that are missing from WP7 - like copy and paste.




OK. Plus hyper-threading, for parallel stuff. It's not always way faster though.

Geekbench2 shows ~3800 for the Samsung, vs ~3400 for the 13" MBA ultimate.

http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/351809
http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/381027

Both are capable, neither is a powerhouse.

I'm still a MBA fan, thanks to the screen, the general build, and OSX.

Geekbench is a pretty crappy synth benchmark, look at the multithread performance of SB KILLS the single-thread peformance of the c2d. GB puts too much emphasis on single-thread. Play with a 2011 MBP 13, much snappier than the C2D 2010 MBP 13. SB will run turbo 95% of the time, unlike last years i5/i7's.
 

Dr McKay

macrumors 68040
Aug 11, 2010
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263
Kirkland
I have run every version of windows from 2.0 up except for 7, didn't bother trying it. Every version with the possible exception of 3.11 was somewhere between less than good, and pure evil. Running windows is simply, in my personal opinion, disgusting, wrong, foul, unnecessary, evil, and yucky.

So far, when the EULA says don't do it, it is generally upheld. That makes it illegal until ruled otherwise, though certainly challengeable and possibly winnable, still illegal until that time.

And yes, you can. But that isn't enough reason for me to dump my wife for a whore. YMMV (Your Morals May Vary)

I was preparing a reasoned response, but I see you are nothing but a massive Apple Fanboy, who would never respond to that. So Im going to stop talking to you now.

Saying Windows is 'Wrong, Yucky, Disgusting, Evil, Foul, unnecessary' is frankly laughable. Comparing running OS X in VMware to 'dumping my wife for a whore' is simply ridiculous.

And questioning my morals, because I installed a legal, purchased copy of Snow Leopard on my PC to fool around with..

Wow.... just wow.....
 
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