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LIVEFRMNYC

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You keep saying stuff like that, and then insisting people return their devices immediately. I take it you're not seeing a bit of a disconnect, eh?

Well it's still highly unlikely that the average user will experience an exploding battery issue on the Note 7, but it will obviously happen to more users. Basically, nobody should be playing Russian Roulette with the Note 7.
 
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widgeteer

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Who said it was a joke? You are the only one throwing that word around.

You're playing the "What about Apple" game and it's stupid. No one OEM has had a recall like this one. You can try to point at a specific incident but it's unprecedented. You also lose credibility when you call someone else out for bias. Apple has *nothing* to do with Samsung shipping a dangerous product to its consumers. Nothing at all.
 
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jamezr

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You're playing the "What about Apple" game and it's stupid. No one OEM has had a recall like this one. You can try to point at a specific incident but it's unprecedented. You also lose credibility when you call someone else out for bias. Apple has *nothing* to do with Samsung shipping a dangerous product to its consumers. Nothing at all.
That is where your bias shows through. You want to enter discussion into the smartphone world and put a negative focus on one company. Step back be objective and get context. But I know that doesn't fit well into your narrative.
 

widgeteer

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That is where your bias shows through. You want to enter discussion into the smartphone world and put a negative focus on one company. Step back be objective and get context. But I know that doesn't fit well into your narrative.

Yes, it's entirely on me that I"m focusing on the one company that has had to recall an entire line of high profile devices because they catch fire. If only there were alternative companies that had recalled an entire line of high profile devices because they catch fire, then I could hide my "bias" better.
 
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jamezr

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Yes, it's entirely on me that I"m focusing on the one company that has had to recall an entire line of high profile devices because they catch fire. If only there were alternative companies that had recalled an entire line of high profile devices because they catch fire, then I could hide my "bias" better.
no you're just be disingenuous. The reason they have been recalled was for defective batteries. Try to stay on topic...but that doesn't fit your narrative very well. I know you want to sling mud and there is a lot of fodder for that here. But there have been other companies with exploding batteries that have resulted in injuries. But somehow we all know you don't want to get context and discuss the WHOLE issue. You just want to micro focus on one company in a negative way.
 

MacBAir

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Yes, it's entirely on me that I"m focusing on the one company that has had to recall an entire line of high profile devices because they catch fire. If only there were alternative companies that had recalled an entire line of high profile devices because they catch fire, then I could hide my "bias" better.
But he's incapable of doing that. Apple is all he thinks about. His brain doesn't allow him to understand that even if Apple devices killed thousands of people per minute, it has nothing to do with this Samsung case.

Samsung being a disgusting and pathetic company that cheaps out on safety and batteries has nothing to do with any other company.

But he's defensive. He can't allow that. So he I'll say that you aren't objective, while trying to shift the focus away from Samsung's pathetic decisions, and desperately trying to insinuate that they aren't forced to act this way. So Apple suckz and you have an agendazzz
 

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Soon Samsung will have the devices replaced, removing the opportunity for the doomsayers to write more fear mongering posts.

In the meantime the sensationalists will continue to spread FUD. It's just who they are, and what they do. Some individuals thrive off stirring things up.

Remember anyone can "report an event" that doesn't mean that's what actually happened. News reports are often found to be lies. That's a well known fact.

Samsung is acting swiftly and responsibly.
 
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C DM

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no you're just be disingenuous. The reason they have been recalled was for defective batteries. Try to stay on topic...but that doesn't fit your narrative very well. I know you want to sling mud and there is a lot of fodder for that here. But there have been other companies with exploding batteries that have resulted in injuries. But somehow we all know you don't want to get context and discuss the WHOLE issue. You just want to micro focus on one company in a negative way.
Perhaps because there's a difference between some rare battery problems of that sort that aren't tied to a particular model/device and are usually shown to be related to some damage or some bad chargers/adapters and an actual complaint or manufacturing defect affecting a very recently released flagship device for which sales had to actually stop and the already sold devices had to be recalled?
 
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jamezr

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Perhaps because there's a difference between some rare battery problems of that sort that aren't tied to a particular model/device and are usually shown to be related to some damage or some bad chargers/adapters and an actual complaint or manufacturing defect affecting a very recently released flagship device for which sales had to actually stop and the already sold devices had to be recalled?
or maybe there have been more cases reported of batteries exploding with actual injuries? YouTube videos and such of other phone batteries that have exploded. But hey.....it isn't Samsung so it doesn't fit the narrative....
 

C DM

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or maybe there have been more cases reported of batteries exploding with actual injuries? YouTube videos and such of other phone batteries that have exploded. But hey.....it isn't Samsung so it doesn't fit the narrative....
Seems like you overlooked (on purpose or not) the actual point of what I brought up. Given that it was basically a fairly rhetorical question in nature, the response seems to only reaffirm its observation.
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Soon Samsung will have the devices replaced, removing the opportunity for the doomsayers to write more fear mongering posts.

In the meantime the sensationalists will continue to spread FUD. It's just who they are, and what they do. Some individuals thrive off stirring things up.

Remember anyone can "report an event" that doesn't mean that's what actually happened. News reports are often found to be lies. That's a well known fact.

Samsung is acting swiftly and responsibly.
Just like it happens with Apple, right? Where those Apple doomsayers still consistently wax philosophical about this or that (wether recent or long ago) with more fear mongering, sensationalism, and FUD. The juxtaposition presented there is quite amazing.
 
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widgeteer

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no you're just be disingenuous. The reason they have been recalled was for defective batteries. Try to stay on topic...but that doesn't fit your narrative very well. I know you want to sling mud and there is a lot of fodder for that here. But there have been other companies with exploding batteries that have resulted in injuries. But somehow we all know you don't want to get context and discuss the WHOLE issue. You just want to micro focus on one company in a negative way.

I don't know who this "we" is that you're now talking for. HOwever, what is the "whole" issue in a thread dedicated to discussing Samsung's galaxy note 7 being banned from flights? Sounds like my narrative is directly on point.
 

MRU

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Ridiculous. Thread is steamrolled into yet another Apple vs Samsung bickering fest.

Why is it seemingly impossible to discuss a publicised Samsung recall and subsequent incidents related to that recall without needing to insert another company that has actually nothing to do with what is going on in regards to this recall or issue.
 

jamezr

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I don't know who this "we" is that you're now talking for. HOwever, what is the "whole" issue in a thread dedicated to discussing Samsung's galaxy note 7 being banned from flights? Sounds like my narrative is directly on point.
this is just one thread though....people have been participating in multiple threads with the same narrative.
Then there have been examples of phones with exploding batteries given in multiple threads. But those don't seem to draw the ire of some here. They have not started multiple threads and been the center of so much of some peoples attention. It's very interesting to watch.
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Just like it happens with Apple, right? Where those Apple doomsayers still consistently wax philosophical about this or that (wether recent or long ago) with more fear mongering, sensationalism, and FUD. The juxtaposition presented there is quite amazing.
It is fear mongering is it not? Hasn't this issue been blown out of proportion relative to the actual facts?
Hasn't these been other phones that have had exploding batteries? Yet they do not draw the attention that this issue seems to have gotten? Then those that seem to be the most vocal about this issue seem to be the not so regular participants in this section. There is a front page article for this issue. But some want to come here and participate for their own reasons.
 

kdarling

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They should ban it until it's been sorted out. The last thing you want at 39,000 feet is a cabin full of toxic smoke from Li-on battery.

Too late. There's been plenty of incidents like that from drone batteries, game machine batteries, etc. All were legal to carry on, too, since they were rated 100 Watt Hours or less. (The Samsung Note 7 battery is only about 18 Watt Hours.)

A handheld battery problem in the cabin itself, has actually turned out to be not so bad. Attendants are now trained and have proven to be pretty good at putting out such fires. For example, on this KLM flight:


But there's also been plenty of times that the final walk around of the aircraft has found smoking checked luggage because of people illegally packing batteries, and devices with batteries. It can take just minutes for batteries in a hold to burn through flight controls.

It's only by sheer luck so far that we haven't had a passenger liner brought down from such checked luggage in the hold. (At least one cargo plane carrying batteries did crash and kill its crew. They had less than three minutes from noticing the fire to the crash.)

In short, I'd much rather someone was allowed to bring their device into the cabin, where a fire can be immediately noticed and handled, than for them to feel like they have to hide it in their checked luggage, where there's no way to save the plane and everyone in it.
 
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Ridiculous. Thread is steamrolled into yet another Apple vs Samsung bickering fest.

Why is it seemingly impossible to discuss a publicised Samsung recall and subsequent incidents related to that recall without needing to insert another company that has actually nothing to do with what is going on in regards to this recall or issue.

It always does.
 
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FFR

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I wasnt offended, just clarifying.

Seems like you are taking this personally, and you called it "literally incorrect"
Here is a Google cache of the article
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Btw: PIA has officially banned the Galaxy note 7,
They are asking people not to even bring he device on board the aircraft.
 

Klyster

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No they're not. They're asking for them to be turned off and not used and not placed in carry on luggage.
There's no airline not letting a Note 7 on board in some form yet.


As for being defensive, if correcting incorrect headlines is being defensive, then yes, I'm guilty.
You're guilty of not reading the articles you post or, as I suspect, you know exactly what you're posting but it fits your agenda, so a little disingenuous maybe?

Personally, if I were in charge, I wouldn't let a Note 7 on board at all, I wouldn't take the risk.
 

FFR

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No they're not. They're asking for them to be turned off and not used and not placed in carry on luggage.
There's no airline not letting a Note 7 on board in some form yet.


As for being defensive, if correcting incorrect headlines is being defensive, then yes, I'm guilty.
You're guilty of not reading the articles you post or, as I suspect, you know exactly what you're posting but it fits your agenda, so a little disingenuous maybe?

Personally, if I were in charge, I wouldn't let a Note 7 on board at all, I wouldn't take the risk.

How is it incorrect?
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Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it has to be incorrect, no need to throw a temper tantrum.

And I told you PIA has outright banned it, they are telling passengers not to bring a Samsung Galaxy 7 " on board".
 
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